Don't waste my time with this ignorance.
Official 2020 South Carolina Primary Thread: Joe Biden wins in blowout!
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They are truly disrespectful to other black voters who don’t share their vision. It should a be a wake up call, but their ego and arrogance won’t let them.
The problem with this is that pragmatism is basically subjective. What you're saying doesn't sound remotely pragmatic to me. So here we areSteyer over performed in SC compared to elsewhere, but he has no realistic shot at winning.
Electability is a large part of pragmatism.
My father loves Elizabeth Warren, but doesn't think she'll win because a lot of men don't like women talking that real shyt to them.
He voted for Biden yesterday because of it.
He also finds Bernie to be a kook and will not vote for his based on his illegal immigration views.
He thinks Trump's wall is stupid and he thinks abolishing ICE stupid.
Who knows what candidate will show up in the future but everyone of these people running will likely be dead or knocking on deaths door 10 years from now.
I have always accepted the individuality of the voter to decide what they feel is best.The problem with this is that pragmatism is basically subjective. What you're saying doesn't sound remotely pragmatic to me. So here we are
That's a fundamental tenant of democracy.
If you disagree, it's your job to convince them Otherwise. This is even more important when it's a representative democracy.
If it weren't we wouldn't spend so much time and money on canvassing and ads.
But we get it, you all think southern moderate blacks are scum.
It still doesn't make their vote any less important nor does it convince them to join your worldview.
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
Nobody’s talking about the religious element. Bernie is a nonreligious Jew. Biden stays in the Black church.
A lot of older southern Black people do care about shyt like whether or not someone is “right with the Lord” and yadda yadda.
Clyburn sealed it though.
No need to do a full analysis, just will point out one aspect.
47% of voters said the Rep. Clyburn's endorsement was "the most important factor" or "an important factor" in their vote.
It's downright shocking to me that 47% of the electorate even knew about the endorsement, much less let it sway their vote. But there you have it. My assumption is that there are very few states where an establishment politician's endorsement of the primary establishment candidate would carry so much weight.
Primary voters are pretty high information voters in general aren't they?
I imagine a large field only increases the amount of effort people have to put into voting in a primary.
Ayanna Pressley
The establishment hates The Squad as much as they hate Bernie. I see absolutely no chance of them picking her based on association alone.
It's so weird that I'm seeing her name come up all the time, like you said she has no base (as evidenced by her early withdrawal from the race). In the abstract she checks all the boxes - bridge between liberal and moderate factions, Black, female, youngish, experienced, trusted by the establishment, a strong speaker and debater. So perhaps if they're very convinced they will win, then she's the new 2020 "safe choice" like Tim Kaine, not there so much to win votes as to just not lose them.
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
becasue mods bushed the only poster who did even attempt to explain Biden’s plans...right wrong or annoying @Warren Moon was the only Biden supporter to try to go in depth on Biden. Most posters here were anti Biden from the jump and thus never looked at his plans (I’m guilty of this too...might be the only top 5 candidate whose site I didn’t look at)
To the contrary I defended black southern democrats against racism. I just said progressives will never fukk with their politics so I told everyone to vent and move onI have always accepted the individuality of the voter to decide what they feel is best.
That's a fundamental tenant of democracy.
If you disagree, it's your job to convince them Otherwise. This is even more important when it's a representative democracy.
If it weren't we wouldn't spend so much time and money on canvassing and ads.
But we get it, you all think southern moderate blacks are scum.
It still doesn't make their vote any less important nor does it convince them to join your worldview.
.Also, the average voter has never been persuaded by “reason.” It has always been an emotional response. Thus, the beef between progressive and conservative black voters is a question of judging the other’s ethics and beliefs. When you think someone doesn’t give a fukk about you or your interests the response isn’t usually friendly. We all love our southern cousins but political discussions at family gatherings ain’t all that peaceful are they? There’s a reason people don’t talk politics with their parents half the time. If your kids can’t convince you then no one can.
I have always accepted the individuality of the voter to decide what they feel is best.
That's a fundamental tenant of democracy.
If you disagree, it's your job to convince them Otherwise. This is even more important when it's a representative democracy.
If it weren't we wouldn't spend so much time and money on canvassing and ads.
But we get it, you all think southern moderate blacks are scum.
It still doesn't make their vote any less important nor does it convince them to join your worldview.
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
Why are we discussing 12 years ago..,aside from some of you real old heads, who here was even 25+ when that election happened? I don’t hold the often still forming political opinions of 16-24 yr olds against them 12 years later. And I know a lot of Black people who supported Hillary over Obama in that primary until he truly became viable, ahh well, thus is the power of the Clinton name, especially back then and especially if you’re young and all you remember is them being talked about positively by your parents.
This. They are turning my support of Biden as a history on who I supported back in early 07/08 while I was in college.
Isaiah Bradley
Banned
props to Joe but you still not finna win...bubu I did lie about being arrested trying to see Mandela, is more ammunition for his opps that already has a treasure trove of his lying history