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Official 2020 South Carolina Primary Thread: Joe Biden wins in blowout!
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damn i wish i lived in cali...
feelosofer
#ninergang
If Bernie wins South Carolina that would say alot.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
He probably won’t
Uno Venova
Your honor, I was merely capping.
Chuck Rocha was just on live tempering expectations. I wouldn’t expect that outcome.
feelosofer
#ninergang
It's Biden's to lose but who knows.
Uno Venova
Your honor, I was merely capping.
Here we go
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Retired Hoodrat whisperer
Uno Venova
Your honor, I was merely capping.
That's one of Bernie's head organizers
Miles Davis
Prince of Darkness
I'm seeing Bernie signs downtown right now in Columbia. I just need these young folks to VOTE.
MSNBC and CNN might commit that. Somebody check on Chris Matthews.
I really hope a lot of younger kids get their parents to move to Bernie, we don’t need to win just close enough. Really don’t like how the media already making it seem like Biden unstoppable again off 1 State he was always projected to win.
Regardless, Latinos need to come out heavy in Texas and California. Put this shyt away.
Bernie has like a 5% chance of winning South Carolina at MOST. You right that if he does, it practically seals the election. But he's not going to.
Interesting read
Four years ago, South Carolina snubbed Bernie Sanders. A lot has changed
Four years ago, South Carolina snubbed Bernie Sanders. A lot has changed
Sen. Bernie Sanders campaigns in North Charleston, S.C., this week.
(Getty Images)
By EVAN HALPER | STAFF WRITER
FEB. 28, 2020
|4 AM
NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C. —
This state was such a lost cause for Bernie Sanders the last time he ran for president that the candidate stopped coming here in the crucial stumping days before the 2016 primary election. He got crushed, losing by 47 percentage points.
So the Rev. Al Sharpton on Wednesday morning found himself doing a double take to be here, of all places, introducing the Vermont senator at his candidate breakfast as the nationwide Democratic front-runner.
“Many never thought ‘Bernie Sanders’ and ‘front-runner’ would be in the same sentence,” said Sharpton, the civil rights activist whose blessing is eagerly sought as Democratic candidates seek inroads with black voters.
At a time when Sanders’ rivals are in a full state of panic over his momentum and have shifted from ignoring the democratic socialist to putting all their energy into trying to stop him, they are particularly alarmed by the traction he has been getting in this state, where some 60% of Democratic primary voters are African American.
It reflects the depth and durability of the Sanders coalition, which has exploded in size with his success.
“The question black folks in the South were asking before was: ‘Who is Bernie Sanders?’” said Justin Bamberg, a South Carolina lawmaker and civil rights attorney supporting Sanders. “Now, it is not ‘Who is Bernie Sanders?’ It is ‘Why not Bernie Sanders?’”
Sanders may not win here in South Carolina; the latest polls continue to show Joe Biden winning and holding the largest share of African American voters. But there’s little question that Sanders has drawn substantially more support from black voters this time around than four years ago. His message hasn’t shifted at all. His appeal to nonwhite voters has.
“We have come a long, long way” in South Carolina, Sanders told a raucous crowd at a rally here Wednesday.
Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders debate in January 2016 in Charleston, S.C. Sanders lost the state by 47 percentage points that year.
(Timothy A. Clary / AFP-Getty Images)
Only 53% of black voters nationwide had a favorable view of Sanders at this point in the last presidential race, according to Gallup, nearly 30 percentage points lower than for opponent Hillary Clinton. But a recent NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found black voters this cycle just as inclined to vote for Sanders as for any other candidate — a turnabout from months ago, when the same poll had Sanders far behind.
In South Carolina, the Sanders campaign absorbed the lessons of the senator’s flop here in 2016. In the intervening years, Sanders and surrogates have returned to the state again and again, visiting its small towns and urban centers, knocking on doors, networking with local officials, just listening. In this state, politics is as much about who you know as what you know. And the Sanders operation got to know a lot of communities.
“He has learned from his mistakes,” said Antjuan Seawright, a South Carolina political consultant not aligned with any candidate in the primary. “He’s learned how to engage, how to prioritize certain communities, where to make investments. His team on the ground has figured out where votes are and who they can activate.”
The success Sanders has had in the few states that have voted already also plays big, but that momentum only goes so far. Sanders learned that in 2016, after his shellacking of Clinton in New Hampshire did nothing for him here and in other Southern states. And Pete Buttigieg, the former mayor of South Bend, Ind., is learning that lesson anew as he struggles to translate strong showings in Iowa and New Hampshire into votes in the South.
The Sanders campaign and Our Revolution, the progressive organization launched by his backers, never stopped building infrastructure here after 2016. They doubled down on efforts to reach potential voters who weren’t politically engaged. The Sanders staff here is twice the size it was in 2016. At this point in that election cycle, Sanders had just five endorsements from state lawmakers here. Now he has racked up at least 36.
At his rally Wednesday, Sanders boasted that his campaign has knocked on 200,000 doors in South Carolina this cycle.
As rival campaigns pursue consultant-driven strategies centered on ads, news releases and press conferences designed to cast doubt on Sanders’ ability to go the distance, the senator’s grass-roots approach has been drawing in voters like Rebecca Bentley.
Bentley didn’t vote for Sanders in 2016; she didn’t vote for anyone. “I didn’t have any political views,” she said. “I was completely uninvolved.”
The 29-year-old who has been on Medicaid much of her life and has also lived in federally subsidized housing was inspired to register to vote by Sanders’ agenda on healthcare and other social programs.
“It really resonated with me that someone was actually listening,” said Bentley, who described herself as Hispanic and Native American.
It is a familiar story in this state, where the Republican leadership refused to participate in the expansion of Medicaid that was offered to states by the Affordable Care Act.
Supporters cheer as Bernie Sanders speaks at a Myrtle Beach, S.C., rally on Wednesday.
(AFP/Getty Images)
“The issues Sanders is talking about are resonating here,” said Bruce Ransom, a political science professor at Clemson University. “The Trump administration is talking about how well the economy is doing, and folks here are not doing that well. They are living in a state where the Medicaid expansion did not take place. Many of them would like to make $15 an hour,” as Sanders is proposing for the minimum wage.
As rivals focus intensely on branding Sanders as unelectable in November, many voters aligning with him for the first time are seeing just the opposite.
Among them is Dawn Pemberton, who supported Hillary Clinton in 2016 and is now all in for Sanders.
“That moderate, middle box just doesn’t seem to be working for our country,” said Pemberton, 48, who recently left a job in real estate.
Gerry Elliot also supported Clinton in 2016. “My more pragmatic head took over,” he said. “I thought Hillary could win. I didn’t think Sanders could win.”
Now, the 51-year-old pastry chef is not so sure. He is wavering between Sanders and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren. “I’m looking for something different,” he said. “I just want change in the status quo.”
Biden’s poor showing in the states that have voted so far has some voters reconsidering their initial instinct to align with a pragmatist establishment candidate who had seemed best equipped to beat Trump.
“A former vice president, particularly one under Barack Obama, should not be getting crushed in any state,” Bamberg said. “You should not be getting blown out. People here have eyes and ears. They see it. They want someone they feel can win long term.”
So some voters in South Carolina are giving Sanders a fresh look.
The campaign officials and volunteers who in 2016 would encounter a voter already aligned with Hillary Clinton at nearly every door they knocked on tell a very different story now. Sanders is just as much a household name.
Actor Kendrick Sampson, an Angeleno and Texas native who was here campaigning for Sanders in 2016, said he understood the skepticism voters had at the time.
“You don’t come into Texas talking about nothing — I don’t care how much I agree — if we don’t know or trust you,” he said. “Especially if you are not from Texas. People [in South Carolina] just didn’t know who he was.”
Sampson is back again talking to voters at their houses, at barbershops, in restaurants, and the reception is different. “Now they know who he is, and they know his brand,” Sampson said. “And now they trust him.”
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Fukk your corny debates
Watch MSNBC, CNN, WaPo, etc. call Biden winning SC a gamechanger and declare it a whole new race for 3 days.