Official 007: NO TIME TO DIE Thread

[karim]

I think that has less to do with the character issue and more to do with the way the world has been post 9/11. The idea of bond being more traditional means the world is more traditional and it hasn’t been for a long ass time. Even in the books he’s a guy who doesn’t really love his job or what he does but he does it because it’s all he knows to do and he does truly believe in making the world a better place. But the world and the world order has been in disarray for a long ass time. Bond is always reflective of the times

The problem is that they didn't think of a creative way to portray that so instead they have him quit either at the beginning or end of each movie.

Casino Royal was great and I also liked Quantum of Solace, even though it caught a lot of flack. In Casino Royale Bond was inexperienced and in over his head, in QoS he was angry and violent, that's character development. But Skyfall started out great and then just got weird and sloppy halfway through. And they abandoned the story archs established in the first two movies for no reason at all. I never understood why it got so much praise, because you could clearly see that they didn't know where to go with the character and chose faux depth to make up for it. And the ridiculous attempt to tie all the Craig Bonds together in SPECTRE even though they abandoned those story archs in Skyfall failed spectacularly. It's the same mistake Disney made with Star Wars: If you want to tell a story over several movies, map that shyt out first. If you didn't do that, don't attempt to fit things together retroactively, it's not going to work.

 

[Just like bruddas]

I don't think any movie dated for May and after is getting pushed back. This viral stuff should be done with by the end of April.

unless it turns into some next level shyt

Bird and swine flu went well into the warmer seasons

 

[MartyMcFly]

The problem is that they didn't think of a creative way to portray that so instead they have him quit either at the beginning or end of each movie.

Casino Royal was great and I also liked Quantum of Solace, even though it caught a lot of flack. In Casino Royale Bond was inexperienced and in over his head, in QoS he was angry and violent, that's character development. But Skyfall started out great and then just got weird and sloppy halfway through. And they abandoned the story archs established in the first two movies for no reason at all. I never understood why it got so much praise, because you could clearly see that they didn't know where to go with the character and chose faux depth to make up for it. And the ridiculous attempt to tie all the Craig Bonds together in SPECTRE even though they abandoned those story archs in Skyfall failed spectacularly. It's the same mistake Disney made with Star Wars: If you want to tell a story over several movies, map that shyt out first. If you didn't do that, don't attempt to fit things together retroactively, it's not going to work.

We disagree on Skyfall but im with you on spectre needlessly tying something together that didn't need to be tied together. at all. Even if they manage to make chicken salad out of chicken shyt in no time to die with conscious serialization and picking up loose threads, still won't make that a good decision in hindsight. But as far as where the character has gone, I'm all for it. I like the depth and emotion and actual real life humanity he's added to a character that was becoming a parody by the time the credits rolled on Die Another Day

 

[karim]

We disagree on Skyfall but im with you on spectre needlessly tying something together that didn't need to be tied together. at all. Even if they manage to make chicken salad out of chicken shyt in no time to die with conscious serialization and picking up loose threads, still won't make that a good decision in hindsight. But as far as where the character has gone, I'm all for it. I like the depth and emotion and actual real life humanity he's added to a character that was becoming a parody by the time the credits rolled on Die Another Day

I'm not against giving depth to the character, I liked the more realistic gritty approach they took in Casino Royale and QoS. What I didn't like was faux depth as in having him have a weird mother-son relationship with m all of a sudden, sending him to a swamp somewhere in scottland, to reconnect with his families janitor or what ever the hell that old man was supposed to be and making blofeld his jealous evil step brother.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I'm not against giving depth to the character, I liked the more realistic gritty approach they took in Casino Royale and QoS. What I didn't like was faux depth as in having him have a weird mother-son relationship with m all of a sudden, sending him to a swamp somewhere in scottland, to reconnect with his families janitor or what ever the hell that old man was supposed to be and making blofeld his jealous evil step brother.

The mother son stuff I was with. every familial thing in skyfall I rocked with. especially since that mother son dynamic is set up in casino Royale, spoken of verbatim in quantum of solace and is paid off beautifully in skyfall. So once again with you on spectre, not feeling you on skyfall

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

this would be good time for movie theatres/studios to bend the knee to at home entertainment and just release the movie at home for a large % of $12.99 or so

This is a movie expected to do close to or north of a billion at the global box office. No fukking way.

 

[OmegaK2099]

Daniel Craig Drops F-Bombs While Explaining Decision To Quit Playing James Bond

"This one I was like, ‘Nah, it’s not going to happen. It’s just not going to happen.’ It doesn’t mean I wasn’t as wound up and just as fukking, like, mad. Because the world outside sort of slightly ceases to exist. When you’re in it, you’re in it, and that’s the thing, I don’t know what it is, maybe having another kid, maybe just being older. But all of these things, I was just like, you know, fukk it. There are other things that are more important."

 

[DaylitoJames]

Daniel Craig Drops F-Bombs While Explaining Decision To Quit Playing James Bond

"This one I was like, ‘Nah, it’s not going to happen. It’s just not going to happen.’ It doesn’t mean I wasn’t as wound up and just as fukking, like, mad. Because the world outside sort of slightly ceases to exist. When you’re in it, you’re in it, and that’s the thing, I don’t know what it is, maybe having another kid, maybe just being older. But all of these things, I was just like, you know, fukk it. There are other things that are more important."

Someone tell Daniel Craig to learn from Sean Connery and..... Never Say Never Again

 

[Big Boss]

cant wait for this

 

[MartyMcFly]

Update from a pretty well connected Bond site:

Hurry Up And Wait

Long and short of it, they've got to make a decision soon on a November release. if November doesn't happen, it's pushed to next summer. But the movie is done, locked, and there's no more tinkering with it or reshoots.

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

months later--relistening to the Billie Eilish song, and I really like it.

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[Lootpack]

The cinematography....

 

[Vandelay]

I'm all in.

 

[karim]

Don't know how I feel about this. The action has a fast and the furious vibe and the plot seems to double down on everything that was bad about SPECTRE