Obamacare is coming :lupe:

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An ominous foretelling of what's to come with the implementation of Obama/RomneyCare: the sudden, obvious surge of college students studying to be nurses over the past few years.

So in other words, the "reform's" has created more of the very artificial, government-stimulated demand for healthcare services which has raised prices and squandered resources in the first place. Even though medical capital will not see any increase due to the passage of the bill, the demand will rise further. Not only will we see more patients conflicting with one another over scarcer and scarcer medical resources, but also a higher number of nurses competing for those same resources to fund their paychecks. This can result in either (1) paying the nurses enough to stay on the job, thus leaving less for actual medical care; or (2) lower paychecks such that not enough nurses exist to care for everyone needing of care, and the ones that remain will have every incentive to be lazy and corrupt. Either way, it means less care and poorer quality care for all. And thus we arrive at a situation familiar to European systems were there exists a shortage of hospital beds, pregnant women give natural birth in the hallways of hospitals, nurses beating elderly patients death, and -- and no, this is not a joke -- attendance to veterinary clinics by humans in medical need because of the absence of adequate medical resources.

Socialism never has worked wherever it's been tried, and more importantly, as a matter of economic law it _cannot_ work. It cannot account for supply and demand relations as lacks free market prices with which to work. And some people thought others were joking in their claims that only more of the same nonsense, hogwash, corruption and tragedy will arise from all of this.


yet... some niqqas cant wait :deadrose:
 

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An ominous foretelling of what's to come with the implementation of Obama/RomneyCare: the sudden, obvious surge of college students studying to be nurses over the past few years.

So in other words, the "reform's" has created more of the very artificial, government-stimulated demand for healthcare services which has raised prices and squandered resources in the first place. Even though medical capital will not see any increase due to the passage of the bill, the demand will rise further. Not only will we see more patients conflicting with one another over scarcer and scarcer medical resources, but also a higher number of nurses competing for those same resources to fund their paychecks. This can result in either (1) paying the nurses enough to stay on the job, thus leaving less for actual medical care; or (2) lower paychecks such that not enough nurses exist to care for everyone needing of care, and the ones that remain will have every incentive to be lazy and corrupt. Either way, it means less care and poorer quality care for all. And thus we arrive at a situation familiar to European systems were there exists a shortage of hospital beds, pregnant women give natural birth in the hallways of hospitals, nurses beating elderly patients death, and -- and no, this is not a joke -- attendance to veterinary clinics by humans in medical need because of the absence of adequate medical resources.

Socialism never has worked wherever it's been tried, and more importantly, as a matter of economic law it _cannot_ work. It cannot account for supply and demand relations as lacks free market prices with which to work. And some people thought others were joking in their claims that only more of the same nonsense, hogwash, corruption and tragedy will arise from all of this.
yet... some niqqas cant wait :deadrose:

Socialism or communism?
 

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Hobama care will have Americans waiting 60 days to see a doctor. Also, Hobama care ONLY means that you will get a physical and a blood check. That's it, it covers nothing else. Also, it's not free, it'll be taxing on those who make money and free for those who don't do shyt. Have fun :stylin:
 

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Hobama care will have Americans waiting 60 days to see a doctor. Also, Hobama care ONLY means that you will get a physical and a blood check. That's it, it covers nothing else. Also, it's not free, it'll be taxing on those who make money and free for those who don't do shyt. Have fun :stylin:

My girl can get her birth control pills for free now... it just kicked in.... a nikka bout to go raw dog

Thanks Obama :salute:
 
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Socialism or any system resembling it....
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thread is terrible
 

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Wait, you consider the Euro a success? :ohhh:



:whoa: Actually nevermind that. Which one of those socialist nations do you feel has been more successful than our capitalist nation? :popcorn:




:snoop: I really hate side by side comparisons with other nations(cause they dont work) but this seems to be the only way

 
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Citing a broad term such as socialism as the cause of the downturn in the European economy shows you lack the insight necessary to be making threads on topics that have anything to do with economics. Since both European and the US are basically mixed-market economies ( to different degrees), which is a mixture of socialism and capitalism, there goes your point about anything resembling socialism working anytime in history. also, certain European countries are superior to the US in many ways like economic equality for example.

id also like to know exactly what "economic law" that socialism violates:troll:
 

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Citing a broad term such as socialism as the cause of the downturn in the European economy shows you lack the insight necessary to be making threads on topics that have anything to do with economics. Since both European and the US are basically mixed-market economies ( to different degrees), which is a mixture of socialism and capitalism, there goes your point about anything resembling socialism working anytime in history. also, certain European countries are superior to the US in many ways like economic equality for example.

id also like to know exactly what "economic law" that socialism violates:troll:
:ehh: Some one that actually looks at the track record of socialism vs capitalism and think socialism has fared better...

fair enough.

"In many ways" :comeon: Im sure buttf*ck land in superior in some way. No one said we were perfect...

Whats so hard about saying capitalism has produced the greatest nation of the modern era? :ld:

And what wrong with acknowledging the extreme poverty found in many socialist countries? :ld:




Many socialist countries experience this "downturn", some even collapsing, yet socialism is never fingered :patrice:... interesting.
Even here.:mjpls:
The U.S. education system is the most socialized institution in the nation, and now that its beginning to fail, yet no one will blame government control :lupe:

Hiding in plain sight :wow:
 
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:ehh: Some one that actually looks at the track record of socialism vs capitalism and think socialism has fared better...

fair enough.

"In many ways" :comeon: Im sure buttf*ck land in superior in some way. No one said we were perfect...

Whats so hard about saying capitalism has produced the greatest nation of the modern era? :ld:

And what wrong with acknowledging the extreme poverty found in many socialist countries? :ld:

Many socialist countries experience this "downturn", some even collapsing, yet socialism is never fingered :patrice:... interesting.
Even here.:mjpls:
The U.S. education system is the most socialized institution in the nation, and now that its beginning to fail, yet no one will blame government control :lupe:

Hiding in plain sight :wow:

We were in the same situation they were in in 2008. The difference is they embraced austerity and we spent our way out of it. They were obviously wrong as they are still struggling to achieve growth.

Im glad you like America so much but not everyone would agree that its the greatest nation. you should maybe acknowledge some of the extreme poverty found in american cities. Ive spent a lot of time in europe and ive never seen anything resembling even certain neighborhoods in NYC, not to mention neighborhoods in other cities around the country.

i dont get your last point. in what way is the US education system more of a socialist system than, say, Medicare, which is btw more efficient than private insurance? if its beginning to fail, there might be other causes to it than just blindly blaming socialism. smarten up.

Edit: and i never said one was better than the other. There needs to be a balanced mix as both systems have their flaws.
 

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when i hear anything about this bama care i always think of how this nicca is doing and whether he'd support this sh1t today.




it's sad how these ppl can just be used by these parties.
 

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We were in the same situation they were in in 2008. The difference is they embraced austerity and we spent our way out of it. They were obviously wrong as they are still struggling to achieve growth.

Im glad you like America so much but not everyone would agree that its the greatest nation. you should maybe acknowledge some of the extreme poverty found in american cities. Ive spent a lot of time in europe and ive never seen anything resembling even certain neighborhoods in NYC, not to mention neighborhoods in other cities around the country.

i dont get your last point. in what way is the US education system more of a socialist system than, say, Medicare, which is btw more efficient than private insurance? if its beginning to fail, there might be other causes to it than just blindly blaming socialism. smarten up.

Edit: and i never said one was better than the other. There needs to be a balanced mix as both systems have their flaws.

Would you agree? :ld:


American poverty isnt like poverty in other nations. Just a little travel will show you this...





Education is much more of a monopoly than medicare is, and is required by law for minors. Its by far the most socialized...
 
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Would you agree? :ld:

American poverty isnt like poverty in other nations. Just a little travel will show you this...



Education is much more of a monopoly than medicare is, and is required by law for minors. Its by far the most socialized...
living in nyc skews my perspective on that :smugdraper: if i was out in kentucky i probably wouldnt.

yea well im comparing american poverty to european poverty. there really is no comparison there. american is worse.

im not an expert on the education system but socialized education seems to be working in other nations so my thinking is the problem lies elsewhere. my point was more towards that socialized programs can be more effective and efficient than the market if managed properly. if your point is that socialized education needs to be improved, i agree. if you want to privatize it completely, then you lost me.
 

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living in nyc skews my perspective on that :smugdraper: if i was out in kentucky i probably wouldnt.

yea well im comparing american poverty to european poverty. there really is no comparison there. american is worse.

im not an expert on the education system but socialized education seems to be working in other nations so my thinking is the problem lies elsewhere. my point was more towards that socialized programs can be more effective and efficient than the market if managed properly. if your point is that socialized education needs to be improved, i agree. if you want to privatize it completely, then you lost me.

still seems a bit vague... the continent Europe(all the nations), or a specific nation? If the former, than that isnt true.


"If managed properly" :patrice:





I would like completely privatized education, but recognize the difficulties in that and concede it is unlikely.
Also Medicare is socialized, and healthcare is another ailing part of our nation... how are the dots not being connected? :heh:
 
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still seems a bit vague... the continent Europe(all the nations), or a specific nation? If the former, than that isnt true.

"If managed properly" :patrice:



I would like completely privatized education, but recognize the difficulties in that and concede it is unlikely.
Also Medicare is socialized, and healthcare is another ailing part of our nation... how are the dots not being connected? :heh:

i dont know what statistics youre measuring your response on but poverty in the US is a much bigger problem than Europe as a whole. just because it doesnt fit in with your idea of America being gods gift to man doesnt make it so

i dont understand what you mean exactly by health care being an ailing part of our nation but medicare is much more efficient than private health care in the US. if anything, you should be connecting the dots between the privatization of an essential service such as health care and its poor performance compared to its European counterparts.

anyway im guessing from your posts youre one of those people who wants to privatize everything. like i said before, any successful economic system is mixed. that tea party free market austrian bullshyt is all trash:camby:
 
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