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What does that have to do with the criticism of Obama being a war criminal?
An appeaser of Wall Street Criminals?
What does that have to do with the criticism of Obama being a war criminal?
An appeaser of Wall Street Criminals?
its just to buttress my point that local politics is where to start, this article represents where the breakdown happens
imo people need to give a fuk about the mayor and city council as much as they do the president
When Mayors and City Councilmen/councilwomen break the law, would you say they face a large chance of answering their crimes?
Would you like examples just from my area or do you understand the question?
no i dont understand your question, corruption is occurs at all levels of the political system
Who is more likely to answer for crimes and corruption?
@Broke Wave
Quit your irrational babbling. I'm sorry your miserable pathetic life sucks under the age of Obama and you want more cynicism to reciprocate your misery and hatred for one man but if life is that tough for you maybe you should just commit that and do more than just yourself a favor.
@Type Username Here on average, how often have your discussions about Obama, both on and offline, devolved into this?
I'm going to go with at least 60% of the time.
@Broke Wave
Quit your irrational babbling. I'm sorry your miserable pathetic life sucks under the age of Obama and you want more cynicism to reciprocate your misery and hatred for one man but if life is that tough for you maybe you should just commit that and do more than just yourself a favor.
Obama just realized that when he actually got into the office......Bush and Cheney were doing exactly what was needed....that was the pill that was hard for him to swallow...its easy to talk shyt from the outside
The good and bad segment of what I said is something that I still firmly believe in and it does drive my political views. That being said, it is wholly subjective and I don't think I can break down my views on that dichotomy in anything less than an entire paper. Nonetheless, reading the rest of what you said, I think we agree. I think that the SCOTUS has been atrocious since the 80's however they still in my estimation cannot possibly have done anything worse than say Iran-Contra. However the idea that voting for Obama simply based on the nomination of a Justice is something I may have been open to (strictly philosophical basis, I'm a Canadian), and I've heard prominent progressives say as such. As for me googling stuff...
Nice to see how you pulled this entire thing from Change.org or some shyt If you knew anything about the financial crisis you would know that there was WHOLESALE FRAUD that has gone unprosecuted, don't attack me on points that you simply do not know the facts behind. Why don't you look up the Robosigning fraud, Countrywide, predatory-racial loans, "A shytty deal" and a whole host of other frauds that weren't even investigated.
As for the NSA thing... you have once again shown your falsification of the facts. The NSA director lied and said this wasn't happening. It is a clear and direct violation of the 4th Amendment, something I am actually not sure you are familiar with.
And as for your barbaric defense of the drone program, I don't even think its fair for me to dignify that ignorance with a response. Big fish? Hanging out with Al-Qaeda? Did you learn your foreign policy from 24? Get a clue.
Who expected him to be a Messiah? This is a common defense of Obama, that he's not a Messiah... big deal. I expected him to uphold the constitution which he trampled with the NDAA and a whole host of other things. I expected him to uphold the criminal law of the land but his justice department refuses to prosecute bankers for CRIMES, look up the HSBC case. I expected him NOT to be a war criminal but he is undoubtedly one of the worst war criminals in power today. If you do those few things that everyone expected with any decency, you're a messiah?
@Type Username Here on average, how often have your discussions about Obama, both on and offline, devolved into this?
I'm going to go with at least 60% of the time.
That's why I'm not even participating in these types of threads anymore.
Both of you dudes need to cool out. I'm at heading into the subway on my phone so I can't see where you quoted me yet, but I can read this on my phone. It should never get that serious, but you really have no leg to stand on when you're a hot head yourself. That's why I'm not even participating in these types of threads anymore. There's no point, you have a couple people with some legit points like you and then a voltron of haters and sycophants who don't even agree with each other on anything else hopping in. I mean look at this thread, you have HHL43 co-signing you, you got people who were mad at me and you when discussing minimum wage laws now riding like they're on the left. It's just a mess.