Obama says Democrats should make sure Ocasio-Cortez has a platform

[mastermind]

His political instincts are great for himself. It's just that the country sucks, and he wants to conform to an image of himself and that shytty country. In your example, is the body the Democratic party or America?

Criticizing Obama the way they're doing it is like philosophers doing metaphysics: intellectual masturbation. I get it - Obama was president of a war hungry, a$$hole, capitalist, ruthless, libertarian, conservative, racist, Christian country. But people often assign him too much power and responsibility when the real culprits are congress, state legislators, and governors (or should I say the real culprits are the American people at large for electing them?). They can constitutionally change the country and give the president/the executive branch the middle finger. Are people just too shallow and can only consider one person as the cause of all bad things in this country? No wonder so many people love monotheistic religions. Simplifies all matters into one I guess.

But we know dude had the chance to help home owners who got fukked with the subprime mortgage crisis, and he decided to help the banks instead. That’s something in his control and he did what his schooling told him to do.

 

[Big Boss]

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

His political instincts are great for himself. It's just that the country sucks, and he wants to conform to an image of himself and that shytty country. In your example, is the body the Democratic party or America?

Criticizing Obama the way they're doing it is like philosophers doing metaphysics: intellectual masturbation. I get it - Obama was president of a war hungry, a$$hole, capitalist, ruthless, libertarian, conservative, racist, Christian country. But people often assign him too much power and responsibility when the real culprits are congress, state legislators, and governors (or should I say the real culprits are the American people at large for electing them?). They can constitutionally change the country and give the president/the executive branch the middle finger. Are people just too shallow and can only consider one person as the cause of all bad things in this country? No wonder so many people love monotheistic religions. Simplifies all matters into one I guess.

Obama caught shyt for calling out people clinging to guns and religion



People forget how much backlash Obama got for even going remotely further left.

 

[Ozymandeas]

If Obama was as transformative a president as you think, Trump doesn’t get elected and Democratic policies would be entrenched in America.

In retrospect, it was symbolically important but actually not that impactful. This isn’t hate, we are actually living through this.

Obama inherited a destroyed economy in 2008, worst economy since the Great Depression and left us in a bull market that went on for ten years. He also revamped our health care system. And the guy who kicked Trump out of office, was his Vice President, who was voted in largely because of his connection to Obama. How is that not transformative? He can't change being a Black man. That's what fueled Trump's rise to power. Has nothing to do with what Obama did. If he was white and looked like Justin Trudeau, they'd be calling him one of the top three Presidents.

 

[Conan]

Obama inherited a destroyed economy in 2008, worst economy since the Great Depression and left us in a bull market that went on for ten years. He also revamped our health care system. And the guy who kicked Trump out of office, was his Vice President, who was voted in largely because of his connection to Obama. How is that not transformative? He can't change being a Black man. That's what fueled Trump's rise to power. Has nothing to do with what Obama did. If he was white and looked like Justin Trudeau, they'd be calling him one of the top three Presidents.

They would be wrong. He does not measure up in any way to what the greatest presidents did.

 

[blotter]

Obama is an all-time first-ballot HOF orator and used the bully pulpit most effectively on which issue?

At some point people who are this plugged in with american politics need to swallow their feelings and sit with the fact that all but a few Democrats are there to uphold the status quo just like Republicans are. Stop being emotional about this.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Progressives still captive to idealism and delusion I see.

 

[mastermind]

Obama inherited a destroyed economy in 2008, worst economy since the Great Depression and left us in a bull market that went on for ten years. He also revamped our health care system. And the guy who kicked Trump out of office, was his Vice President, who was voted in largely because of his connection to Obama. How is that not transformative? He can't change being a Black man. That's what fueled Trump's rise to power. Has nothing to do with what Obama did. If he was white and looked like Justin Trudeau, they'd be calling him one of the top three Presidents.

What you wrote has nothing to do with Obama not offering to help people who were undergoing foreclosure, but instead he helped the banks. It has nothing to do with now derided weak stimulus plan he put out.

It’s been a bull economy for the wealthy and a disaster for everyone else.

 

[the kid]

The full quote itself looks a lot worse than it actually is out of context. His full statement doesn’t have any of the animosity or dismissiveness people laid on it when read in context.

 

[Ozymandeas]

What you wrote has nothing to do with Obama not offering to help people who were undergoing foreclosure, but instead he helped the banks. It has nothing to do with now derided weak stimulus plan he put out.

It’s been a bull economy for the wealthy and a disaster for everyone else.

How has it been a disaster for everyone else? Explain please. My life was fine from 2008 to 2016. Please explain in detail how Obama’s policies led to your life being worse. Bush personally fukked my life up by allowing a Recession to happen at the start of my career and Trump personally fukked my life up by allowing Covid to happen. Obama did nothing in comparison. All I see him doing is cleaning up the mess of a Republican President and now his running mate is doing the same. If your argument is that he wasn’t perfect, then that’s a weak ass argument considering what the other two did. The President was never going to eradicate wealth inequality in this country, so if that’s what you’re searching for then that’s naive. He provided you with stability after a chaotic administration and he put us on the path to universal healthcare.

 

[mastermind]

How has it been a disaster for everyone else? Explain please. My life was fine from 2008 to 2016. Please explain in detail how Obama’s policies led to your life being worse. Bush personally fukked my life up by allowing a Recession to happen at the start of my career and Trump personally fukked my life up by allowing Covid to happen. Obama did nothing in comparison. All I see him doing is cleaning up the mess of a Republican President and now his running mate is doing the same. If your argument is that he wasn’t perfect, then that’s a weak ass argument considering what the other two did. The President was never going to eradicate wealth inequality in this country, so if that’s what you’re searching for then that’s naive. He provided you with stability after a chaotic administration and he put us on the path to universal healthcare.

New Report Looks at How Obama’s Housing Policies Destroyed Black Wealth

And I am not comparing Obama to Bush or Trump. I am comparing him to real transformational presidents. He ain’t that.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

How has it been a disaster for everyone else? Explain please. My life was fine from 2008 to 2016. Please explain in detail how Obama’s policies led to your life being worse. Bush personally fukked my life up by allowing a Recession to happen at the start of my career and Trump personally fukked my life up by allowing Covid to happen. Obama did nothing in comparison. All I see him doing is cleaning up the mess of a Republican President and now his running mate is doing the same. If your argument is that he wasn’t perfect, then that’s a weak ass argument considering what the other two did. The President was never going to eradicate wealth inequality in this country, so if that’s what you’re searching for then that’s naive. He provided you with stability after a chaotic administration and he put us on the path to universal healthcare.

The foreclosure crisis was during his presidency.
The opiod epidemic was during his presidency.
There were nearly a hundred police murders during his presidency.

 

[Ozymandeas]

New Report Looks at How Obama’s Housing Policies Destroyed Black Wealth

And I am not comparing Obama to Bush or Trump. I am comparing him to real transformational presidents. He ain’t that.

I asked you to tell me how Obama screwed our lives up. For example, I have been stuck in my house for 8 months because of Trump. I was unemployed and didn’t know how I was going to dig myself out of the hole financially because of Bush. When you say someone is a horrible President, that’s what my mind goes to...not being upset because someone wasn’t perfect. If you say the man had flaws, you have my agreement but I’m not with you when you start attacking him like he was horrible. Life was very stable under Obama and the country just voted Biden in largely because we want that stability back. The Presidents you’re comparing Obama to are White men. Obama was the first black President. The first black person in anything has historically been safe and non threatening. We don’t need to go into a deep conversation as to why this has been the trend as the reasons should be known and understood. He broke down the door and now Black and minority Presidents after him can build on that foundation and be more “radical/transformative”. If you expected Obama to be a new deal FDR or a bank busting Teddy in an climate that was tense because he wore a tan suit, ate mustard on his food and put his feet on his own desk, then you are being hella naive. The irony in this is Biden will likely be more progressive than Obama was but, given this country’s history, it’s not surprising.

 

[mastermind]

I asked you to tell me how Obama screwed our lives up.

I linked you an article explaining how black people lost their wealth and homes thanks to an Obama era policy, and you are telling me that isn't anything.

If you expected Obama to be a new deal FDR or a bank busting Teddy in an climate that was tense because he wore a tan suit, ate mustard on his food and put his feet on his own desk, then you are being hella naive.

What are you writing?

Obama was never going to do any of that because he had NO INTEREST in doing that. That's why he brought in Wall Street and bailed out banks his first term.

 

[SunZoo]

Yeah she needs a platform because she's a fukking sheep dog, dems NEED an AOC type to keep the left in the pen.