Obama on Senate gun vote: 'A shameful day'

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:what: the stupidity exuded in this post is baffling. Did you read the shyt back to yourself before hitting submit?

The sole purpose of backround checks is to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. Guns are easy to get because there are no backround checks or laws in place to hold people accountable for where guns end up.

It's amazing that so many black people are in here applauding this bill being shot down. They only stopped the bill because it does effect us so much. The "this wouldn't have stopped sandy hook" argument comes from them, because they are only concerned with little white kids. Anything that has to do with helping little black kids gets blocked and slandered and you stupid nikkas in here promoting their argument.:snoop:

Got nikkas talking about "why don't Obama care about black issues this much"

:what: This IS a black issue. Our kids are the ones being shot down by illegal guns. That's why they don't want to pass this bill. Gun manufactures make millions of dollars off guns that end up in the hood killing our kids, and you stupid nikkas wanna protest something that could help that:mindblown:

The mind of a militant nikka is a very confused place:wow:

Well you should blame the white liberal media FOR making it about Sandy Hook. Mathews, Maddow, Hayes, Schultz, et al. They made it way too easy to dismiss the usefulness of the bill by making Sandy Hook such a rallying call.
- Where the fukk were their cries when thousands of black kids were murdered every year before SH?
- Why did it take SH for Obama to get off his ass and fight for stricter gun laws?
- Why isn't Sharpton or the others displaying a montage of kids who were killed by gun violence every day after each show?

They mentioned that one girl in Chicago only because it was politically convenient.
 

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Gun violence will continue to plummet but everytime tragedy hits peaceful areas, liberals will act like its the end of the world and that we need to be further policed.
 

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Well you should blame the white liberal media FOR making it about Sandy Hook. Mathews, Maddow, Hayes, Schultz, et al. They made it way too easy to dismiss the usefulness of the bill by making Sandy Hook such a rallying call.
Why should Rachel Maddow, liberal media, or anybody else effect how you feel about YOUR people? It's not about liberal/conservative or anything else. The media only talks about stuff that will get them ratings. So when a tragedy happens they get their opening to talk shyt. But that has nothing to do with black folks and the movements we should be making.

- Where the fukk were their cries when thousands of black kids were murdered every year before SH?
Where were yours?
- Why did it take SH for Obama to get off his ass and fight for stricter gun laws?
The president has always advocated gun control. And he has always been vocal of that. In fact his "cling to their guns and bibles" statement almost ruined his political career" but we all know the public discourse is reactionary. The public only cares AFTER something happens. So politicaly that's a good chance to try to get something done. It's not Obama's fault it's the way America works.
- Why isn't Sharpton or the others displaying a montage of kids who were killed by gun violence every day after each show?
This is one among many problems I've seen Reverend Sharpton address. Does he need to say it everyday for you to support common sense legislation?

They mentioned that one girl in Chicago only because it was politically convenient.
That's how TV works.:manny:
 

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Why should Rachel Maddow, liberal media, or anybody else effect how you feel about YOUR people? It's not about liberal/conservative or anything else. The media only talks about stuff that will get them ratings. So when a tragedy happens they get their opening to talk shyt. But that has nothing to do with black folks and the movements we should be making.

They shouldn't nor do they. But where was the

Where were yours?

Mine? I don't really care about this whole cockamamie gun control debate. But since you do, where were yours?! There was nay a thread on here or sohh about gun control before SH. Zip, zilch, nada.

The president has always advocated gun control. And he has always been vocal of that. In fact his "cling to their guns and bibles" statement almost ruined his political career" but we all know the public discourse is reactionary. The public only cares AFTER something happens. So politicaly that's a good chance to try to get something done. It's not Obama's fault it's the way America works.

:stopitslime: That was one comment he made before the 08 election. Where were his speeches, press conferences, and indignation before SH? And sorry for expecting the man who was surrounded by gun violence in his hometown to show more political will on this subject than any past president. My bad.

This is one among many problems I've seen Reverend Sharpton address. Does he need to say it everyday for you to support common sense legislation?

Yes. Just like they talked about SH every single day for months, he and they need to do the same for the other victims of gun violence. They made the whole debate about SH, which, once again, made it easy for the NRA and repubs to reject their premise.

That's how TV works.:manny:

And this is how politics work :yeshrug:
 

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They shouldn't nor do they. But where was the
Why are you asking me? I don't know where they were.

Mine? I don't really care about this whole cockamamie gun control debate. But since you do, where were yours?! There was nay a thread on here or sohh about gun control before SH. Zip, zilch, nada.
You cared enough to quote me. And I'm out helping my community everyday. I don't know anything about sohh. And again why does any of this effect how you feel about the issue?

That was one comment he made before the 08 election. Where were his speeches, press conferences, and indignation before SH? And sorry for expecting the man who was surrounded by gun violence in his hometown to show more political will on this subject than any past president. My bad.
:what: he has shown more political will for this and plenty of other issues that effect black people. nikkas like you are just too caught up in politics and nonsense to understand that.

Yes. Just like they talked about SH every single day for months, he and they need to do the same for the other victims of gun violence. They made the whole debate about SH, which, once again, made it easy for the NRA and repubs to reject their premise.

They talk about CURRENT events. That's what people do on TV. They will talk about these Boston attacks for a while too. So what?

And this is how politics work
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us urban folks need this fukking gun control more than anyone else, i know that this whole issue went big after all the little white kids got killed in the suburbs and shyt, but it will affect us the most, so I'll fukking take it even without the outcry for the shyt thats going down in chicago.

sometimes i dont get this country man, i think they took a pretty thorough survey of this issue and 90% of the country supported stricter background checks too.
 

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Well you should blame the white liberal media FOR making it about Sandy Hook. Mathews, Maddow, Hayes, Schultz, et al. They made it way too easy to dismiss the usefulness of the bill by making Sandy Hook such a rallying call.
- Where the fukk were their cries when thousands of black kids were murdered every year before SH?
- Why did it take SH for Obama to get off his ass and fight for stricter gun laws?
- Why isn't Sharpton or the others displaying a montage of kids who were killed by gun violence every day after each show?

They mentioned that one girl in Chicago only because it was politically convenient.

I wasn't going to post in this thread anymore, but :beli: come on breh.

I'm not even an Al Sharpton fan, but this dude had made a career on protesting gun violence in the black community.
 

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It's not even worth arguing, the fact of the matter is that the liberals aren't getting their gun control laws--The fringe left will just have to eat that and live with it. :russ:
 

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us urban folks need this fukking gun control more than anyone else, i know that this whole issue went big after all the little white kids got killed in the suburbs and shyt, but it will affect us the most, so I'll fukking take it even without the outcry for the shyt thats going down in chicago.
Problem is that most of the gun violence that affects us is related to drug prohibition, not crazy people/bipolar/austistic white kids shooting up movie theaters and schools. I would even argue that most of the gun violence in the 1920s was related to alcohol prohibition, not white kids shooting up schools. School massacres are rare, whereas drug related violence occurs every day pretty much. The problem then is prohibition, not gun control. Restricting guns will only give criminals the upperhand.




It's the totally anti-gun control people who are cowards. Terrified of the government...whereas better background checks will actually stop some of the real-life massacres we can prevent.
This is the same government that has brutalized African Americans for centuries. The fear is not unfounded, it is real, it has precedent.

Adam Lanza came from a middle class background, so did the kid at Virginia Tech, so did the Columbine kids. Wasn't the kid that shot up the movie theater in Colorado a graduate student enrolled in a neuroscience program? We give police officers extensive background checks, yet tragedies like Amadou Diallo's and Sean Bell's still happen. Background checks may stop "Some", but I don't think they would have stopped the aforementioned.




Two dudes with guns just put an entire city on lockdown, and somehow idiots think better background checks for gun owners are bad.
But these guys had bombs too. And they had no priors if I recall correctly, and were college students. How would a background check be effective in stopping a college aged male with a job and no criminal record from acquiring a gun?

Background checks are not bad, but they're not always effective. I would argue that they would be useless in stopping massacres because all of the recent massacres were perpetrated by middle class people who are perfect candidates for gun ownership.




The sole purpose of backround checks is to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
But Adam Lanza wasn't a criminal, and neither was James Holmes, neither was Jared Loughner. These were middle class community people, college students.




It's amazing that so many black people are in here applauding this bill being shot down.
It's disturbing how many young black males are quick to defend a government which has brutalized them since they got off the boat hundreds of years ago. This government has a history of violating your rights based on the color of your skin. And not much has changed since then. Our neighborhoods, schools, job prospects, incarceration rates, all are still in poor condition or worsening.

I'd rather cling to my guns than the empty promises of a teleprompter speech.




man :obama: kills me with his outrage. I can't stand it when cats who have 24 hour armed security don't seem to understand why the average person doesn't want ANY threat to their 2nd ammendment rights.

where was he when me and my daughter walked in the crib and it was nikkas in there taking my shyt???? couldn't even have a gun on me legally then, and everyone would have just been like :yeshrug: if I would have gotten shot while going in my own house.
THIS.

If every person could walk around with Obama's security detail, we might not need guns on our person or property. IT's hilarious how Obama is fuming :duck: when he has people watching his back at all times, meanwhile we're left to fend for ourselves. And we're told to deal with it because the police have guns, and they will protect us, and will come to our rescue and all we have to do is dial 911 and problem solved :mjpls:
 

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But Adam Lanza wasn't a criminal, and neither was James Holmes, neither was Jared Loughner. These were middle class community people, college students.
I guess you missed the rest of my post. I'll post it again.
They only stopped the bill because it does effect us so much. The "this wouldn't have stopped sandy hook" argument comes from them, because they are only concerned with little white kids. Anything that has to do with helping little black kids gets blocked and slandered and you stupid nikkas in here promoting their argument.:snoop:


It's disturbing how many young black males are quick to defend a government which has brutalized them since they got off the boat hundreds of years ago. This government has a history of violating your rights based on the color of your skin. And not much has changed since then. Our neighborhoods, schools, job prospects, incarceration rates, all are still in poor condition or worsening.

I'd rather cling to my guns than the empty promises of a teleprompter speech.
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Quote a post of me defending the American goverment.

:popcorn: I'll wait

In the meantime I'll say you and people like you would rather cling to your pseudo militant nikka ideology than advocate common sense solutions that could help out our community.

Don't matter how militant you think you are, the goverment controls your life just as much as the next man. It's pure idiocy to forfeit your own power in shaping that goverment, just so you can be militant on the interwebs.
 

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I understand that some folks want to keep their guns, and excuse my ignorance but what do posters have against stricter background checks?
 
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