The difference is it became based on sectarian rhetoric from the 60s onward.
Obama, in tribute to women civil rights leaders, says they 'made the movement happen'
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The difference is it became based on sectarian rhetoric from the 60s onward.
Elle Driver
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And who was behind that?
Indiglow Meta (R$G)
Ultra.
I did that before you were even up on game, sweetie. You're new era and don't do work in real life. Please miss me w/ the remixed crakkka bullshyt you're trying to perpetuate. I'm deaf to it and I've read the books, went to the protests, had the real life convos, and shut the bytches up because internet debating is 100% different. This digital wall of safety has warped people.
Feminist Black women don't have agency over their minds?
Elle Driver
Veteran
You don't know what work I've put in. But what you said was a complete fallacy.
Explain.
Indiglow Meta (R$G)
Ultra.
Mary Ann Weathers...is a WHITE WOMAN.
Gloria Steinem is a WHITE WOMAN and CIA agent.
There was no "black feminism" before them. Stop being obtuse and in your feelings. You ride with the crakkkas if you ride with that movement, because the CRAKKKAS STARTED IT.
Explain.
Who made Feminist Black women promote sectarian rhetoric that alienates Black men in the 60s and 70s?
Indiglow Meta (R$G)
Ultra.
Pointing out a fallacy is a fallacy as well. Nice cop out. I DO know...you're most definitely about that comfort and stability life.You don't know what work I've put in. But what you said was a complete fallacy.
Explain.
Elle Driver
Veteran
Am I? And how do you know that?
There was black feminism before them, it included anti-lynching and black group economics and self-sufficiency. Womanism was created to counter the feminist movement, but black women have been feminists long before white women decided to rock with it.
AIN'T I A WOMAN?
by Sojourner Truth
Delivered 1851 at the Women's Convention in Akron, Ohio
Well, children, where there is so much racket there must be something out of kilter. I think that 'twixt the negroes of the South and the women at the North, all talking about rights, the white men will be in a fix pretty soon. But what's all this here talking about?
That man over there says that women need to be helped into carriages, and lifted over ditches, and to have the best place everywhere. Nobody ever helps me into carriages, or over mud-puddles, or gives me any best place! And ain't I a woman? Look at me! Look at my arm! I have ploughed and planted, and gathered into barns, and no man could head me! And ain't I a woman? I could work as much and eat as much as a man - when I could get it - and bear the lash as well! And ain't I a woman? I have borne thirteen children, and seen most all sold off to slavery, and when I cried out with my mother's grief, none but Jesus heard me! And ain't I a woman?
Then they talk about this thing in the head; what's this they call it? [member of audience whispers, "intellect"] That's it, honey. What's that got to do with women's rights or negroes' rights? If my cup won't hold but a pint, and yours holds a quart, wouldn't you be mean not to let me have my little half measure full?
Then that little man in black there, he says women can't have as much rights as men, 'cause Christ wasn't a woman! Where did your Christ come from? Where did your Christ come from? From God and a woman! Man had nothing to do with Him.
If the first woman God ever made was strong enough to turn the world upside down all alone, these women together ought to be able to turn it back , and get it right side up again! And now they is asking to do it, the men better let them.
Obliged to you for hearing me, and now old Sojourner ain't got nothing more to say.
The only hoe you know is your mother, and black feminism has much earlier roots than the 60s.
Sojourner Truth has no connection to the Black Feminist movement in the 60s and 70s nor would she ever promote "nikkas aint shyt" rhetoric.
Keep hiding behind Black women who actually love Black people regardless of gender.
Keep hiding behind Black women who actually love Black people regardless of gender.
Elle Driver
Veteran
AIN'T I A WOMAN?
by Sojourner Truth
Delivered 1851 at the Women's Convention in Akron, Ohio
Well, children, where there is so much racket there must be something out of kilter. I think that 'twixt the negroes of the South and the women at the North, all talking about rights, the white men will be in a fix pretty soon. But what's all this here talking about?
That man over there says that women need to be helped into carriages, and lifted over ditches, and to have the best place everywhere. Nobody ever helps me into carriages, or over mud-puddles, or gives me any best place! And ain't I a woman? Look at me! Look at my arm! I have ploughed and planted, and gathered into barns, and no man could head me! And ain't I a woman? I could work as much and eat as much as a man - when I could get it - and bear the lash as well! And ain't I a woman? I have borne thirteen children, and seen most all sold off to slavery, and when I cried out with my mother's grief, none but Jesus heard me! And ain't I a woman?
Then they talk about this thing in the head; what's this they call it? [member of audience whispers, "intellect"] That's it, honey. What's that got to do with women's rights or negroes' rights? If my cup won't hold but a pint, and yours holds a quart, wouldn't you be mean not to let me have my little half measure full?
Then that little man in black there, he says women can't have as much rights as men, 'cause Christ wasn't a woman! Where did your Christ come from? Where did your Christ come from? From God and a woman! Man had nothing to do with Him.
If the first woman God ever made was strong enough to turn the world upside down all alone, these women together ought to be able to turn it back , and get it right side up again! And now they is asking to do it, the men better let them.
Obliged to you for hearing me, and now old Sojourner ain't got nothing more to say.
And if we really want to go there, the War on Drugs and the prison boom was really the wedge driven between black women and black men (besides Steinem and the Miss magazine scandal) @Poitier
Quotes not working? Black feminism/womanism is not about
This is how we know that you all know fukk all about womanism. Sojourner Truth is regarded by many as the mother of black feminism.
So the War on Drugs and the prison boom made a large portion of BW adopt this kind of mindset: