NYPD Trial: cop's tape reveals boss told him to target black men age 17-21

[Gravity]

And I responded to your meaningless, general and vague stats by pointing out that I was referring to NYC when I said out here. Your stats, which are of dubious nature to begin with, definitely don't apply to NYC, and only speak to one crime. When we start talking about illegal guns, shootings, robberies, assaults, and other violent offenses, it says nothing.

They also definitely don't apply to the 40th. So in regards to this discussion, your stats are useful only at highlighting your paranoid delusions.

You really are a shameless c00n. There is nothing "meaningless" or "dubious" about the stats that illustrate how racist this country's police departments and judicial system are. NYC is obviously no different. We have a NYC cop telling you that he was instructed to target people based on race. Blacks and Latinos make up about 85-90% of the people stopped and frisked in NYC even though blacks and Latinos are only about half of the population, and most of the arrests are a result of BS marijuana charges. The marijuana arrests in NYC are out of control and it's largely a result of that stop and frisk policy. Less than 2% of those arrested in NYC as a result of the stop and frisk policy are found to have a weapon.

Fair enough, but is this still the case in the 40th precinct? I think there are two discussions taking place- the unconstitutional stop and frisk policies of the NYPD, and the disproportionate arrests and guilty verdicts handed to minorities. Nationally white people def do and sell more drugs, but in the 40th precinct, being that 99.9 percent of the people there are black/Latino, and 99.99999999% of crimes done there are by young black/Latino males, it seems pretty logical for the police to focus on them in fighting crime. But again, that doesn't justify the violation of their rights. We are talking about 2 separate things.

This argument doesn't fly because if 99.9% of a precinct's population was black then there would be no need to instruct cops to target blacks. Everybody would be black anyway, right? Obviously the precinct isn't 99.9% black if the cops were instructed to target blacks and latinos. You don't even have common sense homie. 85-90% of people stopped and frisked in NYC are black and Latino even though they only make up half of the population. Even in precinct's that are majority white, blacks make up the overwhelming number of people stopped and frisked. This isn't just about 1 precinct anyway, racial profiling happens everywhere in this country. There's really no debating it's existence.

 

[Man On Fire]

was in Flatbush today...its . Cops on every block it seems. is going on?

 

[Raw Lyrics]

he gave the orders to a latino and not a white

wonder how many latino cops followed that guys orders

Well, it was a Hispanic Officer who secretly recorded the orders and blew the whistle. Ever wonder many black cops are following those type of orders?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

This argument doesn't fly because if 99.9% of a precinct's population was black then there would be no need to instruct cops to target blacks. Everybody would be black anyway, right? Obviously the precinct isn't 99.9% black if the cops were instructed to target blacks and latinos. You don't even have common sense homie. 85-90% of people stopped and frisked in NYC are black and Latino even though they only make up half of the population. Even in precinct's that are majority white, blacks make up the overwhelming number of people stopped and frisked. This isn't just about 1 precinct anyway, racial profiling happens everywhere in this country. There's really no debating it's existence.

Actually the argument does fly. The cops weren't arbitrarily told to "target blacks"... they were told to target black males within a certain age range. There are women, kids, old men, old women etc in the neighborhood. Of all the demographics who do you think is most likely to do crime? By telling the cops to focus on a certain demo, they don't waste their time stopping and frisking old women.

 

[Gravity]

Actually the argument does fly. The cops weren't arbitrarily told to "target blacks"... they were told to target black males within a certain age range. There are women, kids, old men, old women etc in the neighborhood. Of all the demographics who do you think is most likely to do crime? By telling the cops to focus on a certain demo, they don't waste their time stopping and frisking old women.

Your argument doesn't fly because it's based on your "99.9 of the people there are black/latino" lie. Your c00n ass wants to paint it as if the only reason that x% of the people being stopped and frisked is black is because x% of the population is black, which is a blatant lie. The demograpghics of the precinct does not equate to the rate of people stopped and frisked as far as race is concerned. Blacks and latinos are clearly stopped and frisked at higher rates than whites. My argument was that the stop and frisk policy is racist simply based on the fact that the cops are told to target people based on race. You specifying that the cops were told to target a specific group of blacks doesn't refute my point. Tom.

 

[Master Teacher]

was in Flatbush today...its . Cops on every block it seems. is going on?

martial law nikka get use to it

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Your argument doesn't fly because it's based on your "99.9 of the people there are black/latino" lie. Your c00n ass wants to paint it as if the only reason that x% of the people being stopped and frisked is black is because x% of the population is black, which is a blatant lie.

No, cops profile how they do in the 40th precinct because

- most people in the 40th precinct are black
- most crime in the 40th precinct is committed by black people

Again, you have a neighborhood in which less than .1% is white or Asian, can you explain how cops can profile all races in the neighborhood equally when some races aren't even there?

 

[Gravity]

No, cops profile how they do in the 40th precinct because

- most people in the 40th precinct are black
- most crime in the 40th precinct is committed by black people

Again, you have a neighborhood in which less than .1% is white or Asian, can you explain how cops can profile all races in the neighborhood equally when some races aren't even there?

Again, if 99.999% of the people of the precinct is black and latino then what would be the need to instruct the cops to target them? I don't understand why you keep trying to reduce this to one precinct or neighborhood anyway when this stop and frisk thing and the racial profiling that it's based on is a major issue all over NYC. Why do you keep acting as if this is only an issue in the 40th precinct? There are precincts all over NYC where blacks makeup less than half of the population but 80-90% of the people who are stopped and frisked. It's not just about one neighboorhood.

 

[wild100sboy]

So youre at a casino..and this one machine keeps putting out jackpots but the others just keep sucking up your money..what do you do..

move to the rewarding machine and win

or keep feeding the other machines to keep things fair

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Again, if 99.999% of the people of the precinct is black and latino then what would be the need to instruct the cops to target them?

Again, the cops didn't say "target anyone black or latino", they targeted males within a certain age range. Hardly 99.9999% of the precint

I don't understand why you keep trying to reduce this to one precinct or neighborhood anyway when this stop and frisk thing and the racial profiling that it's based on is a major issue all over NYC. Why do you keep acting as if this is only an issue in the 40th precinct?

I don't. I posted a link to an article in the Village Voice about a similar exposal within the 75th precinct. And I have said from jump street that stop and frisk is bad + unconstitutional. But stop & frisk is separate from police profiling.

There are precincts all over NYC where blacks makeup less than half of the population but 80-90% of the people who are stopped and frisked. It's not just about one neighboorhood.

Again, never said it was. Repeating yourself won't change that

 

[Gravity]

Again, the cops didn't say "target anyone black or latino", they targeted males within a certain age range. Hardly 99.9999% of the precint

You're dumb as fukk. The point is that if 99.999% of the people there are black and latino then what would be the purpose of cops being instructed to target black and latino people? The age range that they were specifically told to target is irrelevant. It would be redundant to tell cops patrolling an all black precinct to target black males age 14-21. If what you're saying is true then there would be no need for race to bhe specified, the cops would've just been instructed to target males age 14-21.

I don't. I posted a link to an article in the Village Voice about a similar exposal within the 75th precinct. And I have said from jump street that stop and frisk is bad + unconstitutional. But stop & frisk is separate from police profiling.



Again, never said it was. Repeating yourself won't change that :ld

That's exactly how your c00n ass is acting. The stop and frisk policy is no different than racial profiling. The whole policy is based on racial profiling, police are stopping and frisking people based on their race. Whites aren't being stopped and frisked at nowhere near the same rate as blacks and latinos. That's the reason that a lot of people are opposed to it.

 

[Blackking]

My point was the stop and frisk law gives cops perverse incentives to target the most powerless because it gives them the most reward with the least backlash....

lol, madd 'cop'out. I see what you're saying though, statistically it makes since, considering it is there job to stop crime.

There is a reason that cops need degrees. Their job is to stop crime overall and help improve the quality of life. Taking all the black males (or all of any males) out of a community destroys the quality of life for generations... which actually leads to more crime. That is pointless to do when most of the young males aren't committing violent crimes in a nation that has 80 rapes an hour with another 60 unreported every hour. Also, pointless when all you're doing if creating hardened criminals that will more than likely come out committing more serious crimes.

They are just feeding the prison industrial complex and that stop and frisk policy is wrong, if it becomes a numbers game, and not based on an Actual 'hunch' that a crime will be committed.

 

[Blackking]

No, cops profile how they do in the 40th precinct because

- most people in the 40th precinct are black
- most crime in the 40th precinct is committed by black people

Most crimes committed by any racially dominated area, will be mostly committed by that racially dominate group. Cops aren't out there targeting white youth in mostly white areas, ....







They will target black youth in a white, purple or green area... because of cognitive perception and the American imagery that is burned into our heads.

 

[cleanface coney]

if you a black nikka you already know this

they been targeting us for 100+ years

 

[Brown_Pride]

let me close this thread and all debate as to the accuracy of this shyt real fast
Go to ANY suburban highschool at around 4:30 (or right before they let out) then randomly stop just white students. AND OR go to one of their house parties and stop and frisk. Bet you get a high number of arrests.

That's teh fallacy of this program and dumb mofo's who think it works.

We see more minorities getting locked up becuase NO ONE IS STOPING NON Minorities. Hard to have statistics for groups of people you out and out don't even bother messing with.

As it's already been said blacks get stung more for the EXACT SAME CRIME with the EXACT SAME RECORDS....why?


Drugs will never be an american problem until white kids start suffering from it, and statistically that is more of a "dirty little secret" as opposed to out and out fact.

Just like school shooting we're not going to see any "panic" until you read this in a headline:
"Stop and Frisk at [insert majority white school here] Nets Police 80% Arrest Ratio: Drugs, The New American Crisis.