NXT vs AEW Ratings Thread

[OmegaK2099]

I said arguably. Y’all only don’t like him cause he racism came out. He ain’t the only possible goat that says racist shyt. So from a career standpoint he brought wrestling into the mainstream. And his second act in wcw had them dominate wwe for a few years. His impact puts him up there. He wasn’t my favorite but facts are facts

In order to be the goat he has to be universally loved by all

 

[Rayzah]

In order to be the goat he has to be universally loved by all

he was in the 80's..

 

[OmegaK2099]

he was in the 80's..

Bet he was a racist in the 80s too

 

[Rayzah]

Bet he was a racist in the 80s too

I already addressed that, just cause he got caught being racist that doesnt negate what he did for the industry.. There is probably a short list of wrestlers form that period that wasnt a little racist

 

[OmegaK2099]

I already addressed that, just cause he got caught being racist that doesnt negate what he did for the industry.. There is probably a short list of wrestlers form that period that wasnt a little racist

What are you a cac? You sure go out of your way to defend him. This ain't about hogan, this is an nxt vs aew thread

 

[Rayzah]

What are you a cac? You sure go out of your way to defend him. This ain't about hogan, this is an nxt vs aew thread

wow. Please stop quoting me, if you haven’t been following the conversation

 

[OmegaK2099]

wow. Please stop quoting me, if you haven’t been following the conversation

Fck you

 

[Wacky D]

Seriously whatever. You have some weird grudge against wwe. It cool. But my point still stands wwe has been the most successful because they have created the biggest stars. Hogan was a big deal but let’s be honest hulk a mania was a wwf thing. He wouldn’t have been what he was had he stayed in awa and NJPW. Vince made him arguably the goat.

Also why do you act like watching wrestling is my job? It’s entertainment, a distraction. Like I’m not going to watch a show that isn’t entertaining to me. When impact does something interesting to me I will check it out. But until then, I’m good

As bad as wwe is it’s still more entertaining than tna too me. When tna was entertaining I watched it, it fell off and other shows became more interesting that’s it, it’s simple.

You say I’m blahzay towards non wwe but I watch aew every week and I’m going to watch WK. I just don’t care for tna and NWA powerr it’s nothing personal. Neither of them shows are as good as nxt, aew or raw and sd.

I don't have a "weird grudge" against the WWE.

NO. hulkamania was not a WWF thing. it started in the AWA and that's where Hogan became the hottest wrestler in the industry. AGAIN, do your research before you type essays.

im not saying that you have to watch anything. just stay in your lane and stop giving hardball opinions about promotions that you know you don't know anything about. I mean, is that really such a hard concept to grasp??

you watch AEW every week because its trendy right now. if they were to lose steam, youre going to hop off the bandwagon quick. but apparently, you will stick with the WWE through thick-n-thin.
and that's cool. just admit it, and stop pump-faking. THATS ALL I ASK. stop tap-dancing around it.

 

[Rayzah]

I don't have a "weird grudge" against the WWE.

NO. hulkamania was not a WWF thing. it started in the AWA and that's where Hogan became the hottest wrestler in the industry. AGAIN, do your research before you type essays.

im not saying that you have to watch anything. just stay in your lane and stop giving hardball opinions about promotions that you know you don't know anything about. I mean, is that really such a hard concept to grasp??

you watch AEW every week because its trendy right now. if they were to lose steam, youre going to hop off the bandwagon quick. but apparently, you will stick with the WWE through thick-n-thin.
and that's cool. just admit it, and stop pump-faking. THATS ALL I ASK. stop tap-dancing around it.

I posted articles proving my point. Is that enough research for you? Hogan became a star in awa but hulkamania happened in wwf. The commercial success the cartoons the global icon happened in wwf. He was only know to wrestling fans in awa. I posted articles saying that.

so like I said the most money made off any wrestling, came from characters and catchy gimmicks and revolved around fukkery. You can’t have Austin, rock or hogan success unless you have the gimmick and personality that they had. That’s why Cena worked and Roman didn’t.

and btw you haven’t proved me wrong about impact. But I really truly don’t give a fukk.

 

[Rayzah]

Aew or nxt or anyone else will never have commercial appeal until they create a big star and have a big angle.

also hogan was in wwwf before he went to awa and appeared in rocky.

 

[Wacky D]

I posted articles proving my point. Is that enough research for you? Hogan became a star in awa but hulkamania happened in wwf. The commercial success the cartoons the global icon happened in wwf. He was only know to wrestling fans in awa. I posted articles saying that.

so like I said the most money made off any wrestling, came from characters and catchy gimmicks and revolved around fukkery. You can’t have Austin, rock or hogan success unless you have the gimmick and personality that they had. That’s why Cena worked and Roman didn’t.

and btw you haven’t proved me wrong about impact. But I really truly don’t give a fukk.

no jackass. HULKAMANIA STARTED IN THE AWA. and he was already the hottest wrestler in America.
a lot of the marketing ideas and things like toys, etc, were done first in the AWA as well.
how was hogan only known to wrestling fans?? you ever heard of the movie ROCKY?? and you do know that the AWA had a casual audience right? they weren't MLW or ROH.

how did john cena work exactly?? the guy who was supposed to be the top face of the company, but got booed out of every building??

im not sure what youre talking about in the bolded. besides, even if I knew what you were referring to, we already established that you don't know jack chit about IMPACT, and youre just gonna brush off whatever im supposed to prove you wrong about.

 

[Wacky D]

Aew or nxt or anyone else will never have commercial appeal until they create a big star and have a big angle.

also hogan was in wwwf before he went to awa and appeared in rocky.

I see youre under the impression that the WWWF was some king chit promotion.

it was just another territory. the WWE themselves don't even try to embellish on it.

hulk Hogan was the domino effect. if he didn't jump, the AWA would've had Hogan/andre on CBS a whole 6 years before that record-holding NBC show the WWF had.

this idea that the WWF created all these stars is hilarious.

 

[Rayzah]

no jackass. HULKAMANIA STARTED IN THE AWA. and he was already the hottest wrestler in America.
a lot of the marketing ideas and things like toys, etc, were done first in the AWA as well.
how was hogan only known to wrestling fans?? you ever heard of the movie ROCKY?? and you do know that the AWA had a casual audience right? they weren't MLW or ROH.

how did john cena work exactly?? the guy who was supposed to be the top face of the company, but got booed out of every building??

im not sure what youre talking about in the bolded. besides, even if I knew what you were referring to, we already established that you don't know jack chit about IMPACT, and youre just gonna brush off whatever im supposed to prove you wrong about.

The term hulkamania was created by Vince. Wtf are you talking about. The music the red and yellow. All that shyt was wwf. He became the man because he beat Andre. nikka the whole country didn’t even have awa. What PPV’s did they do? What football stadiums did they sell out?

again quit talking crazy and fukking read the article I posted that refutes everything you have said.

I now see you don’t know what commercial success is. If you don’t know how Cena worked then I have wasted my time talking to you. But I will explain


You looking at this from the wrong angle. You don’t have to be the best in ring wrestler to be the most over or most successful. You don’t have to be liked by the internet to be a mainstream success.

 

[Wacky D]

The term hulkamania was created by Vince. Wtf are you talking about. The music the red and yellow. All that shyt was wwf. He became the man because he beat Andre. nikka the whole country didn’t even have awa. What PPV’s did they do? What football stadiums did they sell out?

again quit talking crazy and fukking read the article I posted that refutes everything you have said.

I now see you don’t know what commercial success is. If you don’t know how Cena worked then I have wasted my time talking to you. But I will explain


You looking at this from the wrong angle. You don’t have to be the best in ring wrestler to be the most over or most successful. You don’t have to be liked by the internet to be a mainstream success.

no the WWF did not create the term hulkamania. the music and the red/yellow?? yes they added that stuff, but they didnt create hulkamania. a simple google search would instantly tell you otherwise, but you seem content with typing essays that consist of nothing but you throwing chit at the wall, and hoping it sticks. I cant stand posters like you.

PPVs?? nobody was doing PPVs. dog, do you have any clue what you be arguing about??

john cena is no bigger than say batista. people who don't watch wrestling, generally don't know that they were wrestlers homie. in fairness, the same could be said for Hogan's first role but his chit wasn't facilitated.

john cena was never the most over or most popular. he was force-fed as the face of a company who knew that it was all about the logo at that point and they could push whoever they wanted to the moon and get the same results at the very least. he was nowhere near being some sort of game-changing star.

 

[Rayzah]

no the WWF did not create the term hulkamania. the music and the red/yellow?? yes they added that stuff, but they didnt create hulkamania. a simple google search would instantly tell you otherwise, but you seem content with typing essays that consist of nothing but you throwing chit at the wall, and hoping it sticks. I cant stand posters like you.

PPVs?? nobody was doing PPVs. dog, do you have any clue what you be arguing about??

john cena is no bigger than say batista. people who don't watch wrestling, generally don't know that they were wrestlers homie. in fairness, the same could be said for Hogan's first role but his chit wasn't facilitated.

john cena was never the most over or most popular. he was force-fed as the face of a company who knew that it was all about the logo at that point and they could push whoever they wanted to the moon and get the same results at the very least. he was nowhere near being some sort of game-changing star.

I see you are used to arguing with these clown on here that were probably too young to refute your strong wrong opinions.

So instead of trading insults and judging you I will only respond with facts with ANOTHER simple google search, its not like Im not old enough to know these stories but I will entertain you..

In 1979, Bollea's talent caught the attention of Vincent McMahon, the legendary promoter and owner of the World Wrestling Federation (WWF), the most prominent wrestling league in the Northeast. McMahon gave Bollea an opportunity to join the WWF—and to create a new identity. Because of his massive physique (he stood 6 feet 8 inches, and weighed 303 pounds) and his uncanny resemblance to the comic book hero, the Incredible Hulk, McMahon suggested that Terry assume the stage name "Hulk Hogan."

So not only did vince create hulkamania he even created the name Hulk hogan before he went to awa

In 1983 Hogan would sign with the WWF. The WWF, which was formally the WWWF was now being run by Vincent K McMahon. Vince knew instantly that he had a moneymaker when he signed Hogan.

He would have Hogan take the title of the much-hated Iron Sheik at MSG in 1984. It was on that fate full night we would see the birth of “Hulkamania”. Once Hulkamania was born it would be come a worldwide sensation.

A quote speaking to Hogans mains stream success after he signed with wwf

Hell, even old grandma Tilley was running around with her Hulkamaina T- shirt on. It was a fad that grew to enormous heights. Hulk Hogan would bring wrestling to levels of popularity it had never seen before.

Now before I hear all of you tell me that it wasn’t only Hogan that made the WWF. I would agree with all of you that feel that way. As a fan of heels, I watched Hogan destroy many of my hero’s.

Make no mistakes about it though, the mass of wrestling fans were paying to see Hogan. Whether it was to see him win or loose mattered not. In the early to late 80s Hulk Hogan was always in the main event.

Vince McMahon had created a monster that even he would be unable to slay.

WWF Star
In 1984, Hogan was awarded the WWF championship belt for his memorable defeat of the Iron Sheik. He quickly rose to super-stardom, and the resulting fan frenzy, nicknamed Hulkamania, became legendary. Hogan's success during this time bolstered the public's fascination with professional wrestling. In total, he would become a 12-time world champion; six times with the WWF/E and another six with the WCW (World Championship Wrestling).

https://www.biography.com/personality/hulk-hogan

Make No Mistake About It: Hulk Hogan Had The Biggest Impact On Wrestling

Two articles saying EXACTLY what I said, But hey, I guess they are wrong too

Now on to cena, Cena was the biggest star form 05 - 2016 or so maybe 2018.. He sold the most merch, he has multiple movies coming up, he had a hit rap album, he is known by non wrestling fans..

He was the most over from 05-11 when Punk took off, and it wasnt even close, over means merch sales and the fact they had strong ratings with him as the main event every night. the low ratings that we see now came after he left.. Yes the ratings were in decline after the attitude era ended but they were constantly 3-5 million viewers. John Cena Was over, its just the grown as internet/Smark fans that refuse to accept that he was the guy.. Thats why he was able to walk away and get big movie roles while batista had to work his way up and get lucky to be in GOTG and avengers where he barely talks.. No knock on batista, but Cena got all types of shyt thrown at him as soon as he left, because he was a bigger name. He made more money and made the company more money than anyone else by a mile. Roman has to wrestle, his star isnt that big yet, he never had the love Cena did during his height in 05-2010 despite the grown up marks booing him

But hey go ahead and discredit me cause I typed an "essay" and you dont like Cena