NXT vs AEW Ratings Thread

[Prince Akeem]

lets not rewrite history.

TNA was catching hate from day 1.

they didn't churn out a bad product until like year 10.
they had a bad stretch via the Hogan years, and had about 1 or 2 bad years afterwards. the bad years are pretty much in the middle of their history and it accounts for less than a 3rd of their existence.

meanwhile, the WWE has been unapologetically & blatantly bad for the better part of 15 years and people still support it because theyre stuck on their childhood memories.

im just going by what YOU typed.

and youre proving my point with your "im not racist, i have black friend" esque rant, especially when you basically said, you watched a lil bit of TNA, then you threw it in the bushes the minute the quality dropped and you never looked back. that's the definition of a fairweather fan, yet you want these other promotions to cater towards you, knowing that youll drop them like a bad habit in a milli-second.

the TNA rant is especially funny, because you were in the IMPACT thread talking big chit. come to find out, you didn't really watch much of it and aren't even aware of the vast majority of their best stuff.

thank you for proving my entire point. THANK YOU.

also, professional wrestling has existed for since forever. nobody on here was even alive for the real biggest pro wrestling booms, and they weren't built off of f*ckery.

and btw, nitro was doing big numbers before the NWO.​

 

[Linc]

The biggest period in pro wrestling was the attitude era,

I watched TNA during the good years, it was good enough to keep watching but it was never must see TV. What was must see, Aces and eights? Jay lethal doing a macho man impression? christian? Jeff Jarrett being the champ for like 5 years? I will say the knock out division used to be dope.

none of what you said happened during the “good years”


Edit: maybe Christian was around for some of it

 

[Rayzah]

none of what you said happened during the “good years”


Edit: maybe Christian was around for some of it

Maybe maybe not oh so you mean the main event mafia? Abyss (a fake as Kane and mankind) fake ecw reboots. Signing all wwe D list rejects? but I saw most of it and those are the things I remember.

 

[Da King]

This thread is the epitome of why wrasslin fans are pathetic

 

[ÆTHER]

TNA like every company is filled with a mixed bag of good stuff & pure shyt.

I think he meant in its totality. TNA wasn't consistently churning out a bad product until the Hogan years. There were bad moments throughout the early years (like every promotion)

but the good outweighed the bad. Nobody says the Attitude Era was a bad product because of that "choppy choppy your pee pee" Val Venis Kaientai shyt and that's far far more memorable than this weird segment you just posted. There was lots of just flat out bad shyt strewn throughout that period but nobody refers to the Attitude Era as a bad product.​

 

[DoubleJ13]

 

[LastManStanding]

a "news report" from a site called "Cultaholic"? sounds like a reliable source

oh wait ... their source is Dave Meltzer?and the "report" came out just hours ago today!

Dave is literally just making shyt up as he goes. He doesn't have any access to DVR reports

if he did, he would release it and more people (and actual LEGIT sources/news sites) other than HIM would report on it as well. dude just made this shyt up today because he's mad

 

[Larry]

lmao

 

[Max.]

This is so sad

 

[DoubleJ13]

a "news report" from a site called "Cultaholic"? sounds like a reliable source

oh wait ... their source is Dave Meltzer?and the "report" came out just hours ago today!

Dave is literally just making shyt up as he goes. He doesn't have any access to DVR reports

if he did, he would release it and more people (and actual LEGIT sources/news sites) other than HIM would report on it as well. dude just made this shyt up today because he's mad

It was probably in the observer Thursday & just not used by Cultaholic until today

He can get the DVR numbers later, he just hasn't because even when AEW had less total veiwers he would tell you it was all about the demo anyway. AEW lost the only demo that matters & here's the DVR numbers.

 

[FromStLouis]

I can believe it, the good majority of AEW fans are AEW-only.

Even here the AEW stans are emphatically anti-WWE, to the point it's become a "war" for some of them.

Then you have fans that are actually open minded that watch NXT live, and dvr AEW for later.

AEW fans aren't dvr-ing NXT for later, even though it's been the better show for some time now.

 

[Wacky D]

WWE fans chanted TNA at Vince sitting ringside during a ‘Donald v Rosie’ match. The “smart fans” loved TNA from when they went to Spike until the electric cage match. Fans gave TNA chance after chance when Dixie did her yearly reboot and millions gave them a chance when Hogan arrived.

those chants weren't even all that loud.
and it was mostly TNA fans who still supported WWE that would do TNA chants at shows.​

it was never "the cool thing" to be a TNA fan. there was never a TNA revolution or revolt against the WWE like we've seen this year with AEW fans.

TNA was always the little engine that could. the promotion that nobody wanted to see succeed, largely because of the reasons I gave in the previous post, which you didn't address.

TNA never got a fair shot with the casual viewer like AEW or even ECW. hence, the reason why they went and got Hogan in the first place and let him do whatever with the company, under the impression that he would take their momentum and put them over the top. instead, he took their momentum and strangled it.

The biggest period in pro wrestling was the attitude era, how old are you?
Why dont you start a thread and have a poll and see if the majority of the TSC watches wrestling as a athletic competition or do they watch for the drama and story.. WCW was doing ok before nwo, but the height of WCW came after NWO.

So I cant have a preference? I am a fair weather fan because I dont watch fukking Impact? like really? impact? Im fairweather because I stopped watching once the quality dropped? uhhhhh yea why would I keep supporting them if I am no longer entertained by it? Even during the good years it was never that good, so A fall off in quality when your show was only 3 out of five in the first place is a really bad dropoff.

I watched TNA during the good years, it was good enough to keep watching but it was never must see TV. What was must see, Aces and eights? Jay lethal doing a macho man impression? christian? Jeff Jarrett being the champ for like 5 years? I will say the knock out division used to be dope.

You know what maybe im wrong and its good to you, I wont knock it, but to me I'm not feeling the high school gym looking arenas, The corny indy gimmicks like Joey Ryan, ole boy that used to be in wwe Josh Mathews on commentary is horrible, Like who is their champion, Sami Callihan? like is that who is supposed to make me watch?

1. attitude didn't even spark that boom period. WCW were the ones that started that boom.
2. that's not even the biggest boom period of my lifetime. wrestling was bigger in the '80s
3. learn ya history. wrestling was much bigger in the older days before any of us were even alive.

as for the TNA stuff:
1. im not saying that you have to support them. im saying that you should at least be cognizant before you show your ass and speak high & mighty about something that you know youre not informed about. you made statements in other threads like "they havnt been good since 2010", only to expose yourself later by saying that you havnt even checked for the product since then to even know if it was good or not.
2. fairweather, as in you stopped watching altogether, the second that you were no longer entertained by it. as opposed to the WWE, which you will still support forever even if you don't like the product. and that's cool. you can have your preferences and your favoritisms, but turn around and wonder why AEW isn't gearing their product towards people like you, who they know are not gonna be supporters in the long run.
3. AGAIN you don't even know what "the good years" are. the years you listed aren't even generally considered to be their best years. and I already corrected you on this. youre you rinse-n-repeating the same BS.
4. its cool if you don't like callihan, but you cant diss dude, then turn around and watch bray wyatt wrestle the miz for the universal title.
5. the whole TNA segment of this post, consists of you missing the entire point that I was making and turning it into a whole different argument. you still wont get it tho.

 

[DoubleJ13]

Looks like NXT is going to win again this week too

 

[Rayzah]

those chants weren't even all that loud.
and it was mostly TNA fans who still supported WWE that would do TNA chants at shows.​

it was never "the cool thing" to be a TNA fan. there was never a TNA revolution or revolt against the WWE like we've seen this year with AEW fans.

TNA was always the little engine that could. the promotion that nobody wanted to see succeed, largely because of the reasons I gave in the previous post, which you didn't address.

TNA never got a fair shot with the casual viewer like AEW or even ECW. hence, the reason why they went and got Hogan in the first place and let him do whatever with the company, under the impression that he would take their momentum and put them over the top. instead, he took their momentum and strangled it.





1. attitude didn't even spark that boom period. WCW were the ones that started that boom.
2. that's not even the biggest boom period of my lifetime. wrestling was bigger in the '80s
3. learn ya history. wrestling was much bigger in the older days before any of us were even alive.

as for the TNA stuff:
1. im not saying that you have to support them. im saying that you should at least be cognizant before you show your ass and speak high & mighty about something that you know youre not informed about. you made statements in other threads like "they havnt been good since 2010", only to expose yourself later by saying that you havnt even checked for the product since then to even know if it was good or not.
2. fairweather, as in you stopped watching altogether, the second that you were no longer entertained by it. as opposed to the WWE, which you will still support forever even if you don't like the product. and that's cool. you can have your preferences and your favoritisms, but turn around and wonder why AEW isn't gearing their product towards people like you, who they know are not gonna be supporters in the long run.
3. AGAIN you don't even know what "the good years" are. the years you listed aren't even generally considered to be their best years. and I already corrected you on this. youre you rinse-n-repeating the same BS.
4. its cool if you don't like callihan, but you cant diss dude, then turn around and watch bray wyatt wrestle the miz for the universal title.
5. the whole TNA segment of this post, consists of you missing the entire point that I was making and turning it into a whole different argument. you still wont get it tho.

how was the 80’s the biggest period when stone cold drew more than anyone in history? Who wasn’t alive to see the 80’s? Again how old are you? Vince is a billionaire because of the attitude era not hogan. The biggest ratings came during the attitude era. Prove me wrong with facts or else all of this is pointless. AEW is catering their product to people like me, they are trying to find the balance between flippy shyt and fukkery, with some more traditional” wrestling mixed in. ALL I was saying is they need a big angle and to create a star to really make a dent. I can see they are trying to do that, I’m just saying that’s what’s holding them back.
I’m not addressing TNA anymore, I refuse to argue with someone who can’t possibly know what I saw.. like it’s impossible that I didn’t check in from time to time, like I didn’t say that I checked in after I saw the broken matt stuff. But whatever. Who cares. I’m off this convo

 

[Wacky D]

how was the 80’s the biggest period when stone cold drew more than anyone in history? Who wasn’t alive to see the 80’s? Again how old are you? Vince is a billionaire because of the attitude era not hogan. The biggest ratings came during the attitude era. Prove me wrong with facts or else all of this is pointless. AEW is catering their product to people like me, they are trying to find the balance between flippy shyt and fukkery, with some more traditional” wrestling mixed in. ALL I was saying is they need a big angle and to create a star to really make a dent. I can see they are trying to do that, I’m just saying that’s what’s holding them back.
I’m not addressing TNA anymore, I refuse to argue with someone who can’t possibly know what I saw.. like it’s impossible that I didn’t check in from time to time, like I didn’t say that I checked in after I saw the broken matt stuff. But whatever. Who cares. I’m off this convo

@ the bolded. I wasn't referring to the '80s with the "we weren't alive" comment.
you do know that the world existed for centuries before we touched down, right?

as for stone cold drawing "more than anyone in history". you have to remember that there were more outlets when he was around as opposed to previous eras. with that said, wrestling was certainly bigger in the '80s. of course more money is gonna be made in the late '90s when youre providing more content to purchase and the prices are higher.
and yes, the WWF's biggest ratings pop was in the '80s. go do your own research, since you know it all.

as for AEW, I don't see how theyre creating their product towards you. theyre basically modelling themselves after '90s WCW.

you "refuse to argue about TNA anymore" because you exposed yourself as not being qualified to argue about it in the first place. no need to save face. theres no prize at the end.

now I see youre in your feelings dapping my trolls in other threads. it aint that serious.