NSA Wiretapping and Snowden on the run

[TrueEpic08]

I don't know, I'm trying to figure out how this thread doesn't have more views and posts. But they're tapping every subscriber anyhow.

Complacency. It's like someone said earlier in the thread: A lot of people just operate under the assumption that they are being monitored anyway. Add to that the fact that a lot of people have this belief that not a whole lot is going to be done with it (just the same as some of the responses in the thread on the Supreme Court's DNA sample case), and it's a perfect foundation for willful myopia. At least, that's my opinion on it.

I'm not even sure what to say at this point. The order, Obama's continuation of a Bush-era policy, the "working against terrorism" justification, it's like a terrible running joke at this point (this also might be a reason why people don't respond to threads like this: when you get slight variations on the same types of stories every day, with activism seemingly changing nothing, why not mentally quit?).

But you say you're going to be seeing Harold Koh in the future? You going to Yale on business or something? :tellmemore:

 

[babylon1]

Right... but your point was that Presidents are owned by some group of secret puppetmasters and theres no difference between how the 2 parties enter and administer war. Lets stick to that.

Why would the puppetmasters have to wait or give it time, when everyone from Israel to Turkey is trying to influence our actions in the region right now?

the american public wouldn't support another war at this moment. give it 5 years or so, breh. timing is everything

 

[babylon1]

it's getting worse, brehs and brehettes...

U.S. intelligence agencies operated a broad data-mining program that extracted e-mail, photos and other private communications from some of the biggest Internet companies, American and British newspapers reported Thursday.

The agencies got access to the central servers of nine major firms, including Microsoft, Apple, Google, Yahoo and Facebook, the Guardian and The Washington Post reported. The Post said it had been provided a detailed briefing presentation document on the program, called PRISM.

The program has been running since 2007 and has undergone "exponential growth" since then, the Post reported. It is now the leading source of raw material for the National Security Agency, the secretive U.S. intelligence operation that monitors electronic communications.

CNN is attempting to confirm the reports, which came out a day after the Guardian revealed that the government may be collecting the phone records of millions of Americans. The British outlet published a four-page, top-secret government order requiring "originating and terminating" phone numbers plus the location, time and duration of calls from the telecommunications giant Verizon, allowing the FBI and NSA to obtain the records from April 25 to July 19.

 

[PikaDaDon]

the american public wouldn't support another war at this moment. give it 5 years or so, breh. timing is everything

No need to wait. All they have to do is stage another terror attack and atleast 80% of the population will support a war.

Right... but your point was that Presidents are owned by some group of secret puppetmasters and theres no difference between how the 2 parties enter and administer war. Lets stick to that.

Why would the puppetmasters have to wait or give it time, when everyone from Israel to Turkey is trying to influence our actions in the region right now?

Puppet masters? You mean these guys?

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Complacency. It's like someone said earlier in the thread: A lot of people just operate under the assumption that they are being monitored anyway. Add to that the fact that a lot of people have this belief that not a whole lot is going to be done with it (just the same as some of the responses in the thread on the Supreme Court's DNA sample case), and it's a perfect foundation for willful myopia. At least, that's my opinion on it.

I'm not even sure what to say at this point. The order, Obama's continuation of a Bush-era policy, the "working against terrorism" justification, it's like a terrible running joke at this point (this also might be a reason why people don't respond to threads like this: when you get slight variations on the same types of stories every day, with activism seemingly changing nothing, why not mentally quit?).

But you say you're going to be seeing Harold Koh in the future? You going to Yale on business or something? :tellmemore:

It doesn't get much response (outside of the fact that this subforum is ) because it's like what is there really to say beyond "Damn that's fukked up" like the other daily stories of government corruption and erosion of privacy? It's not going to stop.

 

[No1]

Complacency. It's like someone said earlier in the thread: A lot of people just operate under the assumption that they are being monitored anyway. Add to that the fact that a lot of people have this belief that not a whole lot is going to be done with it (just the same as some of the responses in the thread on the Supreme Court's DNA sample case), and it's a perfect foundation for willful myopia. At least, that's my opinion on it.

I'm not even sure what to say at this point. The order, Obama's continuation of a Bush-era policy, the "working against terrorism" justification, it's like a terrible running joke at this point (this also might be a reason why people don't respond to threads like this: when you get slight variations on the same types of stories every day, with activism seemingly changing nothing, why not mentally quit?).

But you say you're going to be seeing Harold Koh in the future? You going to Yale on business or something? :tellmemore:

I'm definitely going to take a course of National Security, which I haven't done up until this point, just because I don't really get these FISA courts, and where these orders are coming from. Koh and I will be at some of the same events in the coming months.

 

[Consigliere]

the american public wouldn't support another war at this moment. give it 5 years or so, breh. timing is everything

The American public will support anything the media tells them to support.

 

[babylon1]

The American public will support anything the media tells them to support.

only to a certain extent, bruh

 

[PikaDaDon]

only to a certain extent, bruh

Nah you're underestimating the stupidity of the American public. People are really sheep out here.

It doesn't get much response (outside of the fact that this subforum is ) because it's like what is there really to say beyond "Damn that's fukked up" like the other daily stories of government corruption and erosion of privacy? It's not going to stop.

http://www.the-coli.com/locker-room...bilderberg-groups-influence.html#.UbEedPlJM-0

 

[Consigliere]

only to a certain extent, bruh

George Bush Jr.
Afghanistan
War in Iraq
Paris Hilton & The Kardashians
Obama
Gay Marriage

All propped up by media over the last decade.

 

[Type Username Here]

[ame]http://youtu.be/ILyTI99TOlo[/ame]

 

[Type Username Here]

at anybody thinking the government monitoring your shyt started ONLY recently.

Does it matter?

Before the French Revolution, far worse things were occurring at the hands of the French Monarchs. Louis the 16th was level headed Monarch when compared to some of his predecessors, but people were fed up and things he did set them off, even if they had occurred under his predecessors.

In Turkey, things far worse were going on. It's when the people were faced with oppression when trying to protest the closure of a park that things boiled over.

In the Arab Spring, it was one man setting himself on fire and shed light to some of what their dictators were doing.

My point? Sometimes it's things like this coming forth that begin to right the ship.

 

[BedRoomI'z]

Google Androids is on some other shyt.

Sometimes it's helpful, but other times, it's creepy as hell

How can I look up a job on the internet and the directions
is in my phone five minutes later?

 

[babylon1]

Rearrangin, see times are definitely changin G
They used to tap the phone, now they tappin while you pagin me
It's crazy B, yet it's plain to see, who the enemy

[ame=http://youtu.be/SrT0x7R81EM]Keep It Zipped - Zack De La Rocha - Constructive Rukus (C.I.A. ) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Type Username Here]

NSA Has Access to Servers of Internet Firms: Reports - Guardian, Washington Post have scoop: Feds tapping in via secret 'PRISM' program

Charges that we live in a surveillance state are about to get much louder. The Guardian and the Washington Post are separately reporting about a previously unknown program known as PRISM that gives the federal government direct access to the servers of all the big Internet companies, including Facebook, Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, and Apple. Members of the NSA and FBI use that access to collect information that includes search history, emails, live chats, file transfers, audio, video—pretty much everything is fair game, it seems. The uber-secret program began in 2007, and it has grown to become a vital part of daily intelligence reports given to the president, say the stories.

"The PRISM program is not a dragnet, exactly," write Barton Gellman and Laura Poitras at the Post. "From inside a company’s data stream the NSA is capable of pulling out anything it likes, but under current rules the agency does not try to collect it all." The focus is on foreign communication, but even "with no American singled out for targeting, the NSA routinely collects a great deal of American content." The Guardian adds that it "opens the possibility of communications made entirely within the US being collected without warrants." Both papers say the program is run with the permission of the Internet companies, though the Guardian got denials from spokespeople it contacted, including ones at Google and Apple.