NSA Wiretapping and Snowden on the run
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Julius Skrrvin
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don't see what the problem is when the media is basically the 4th branch of the government.
When the government started turning on the media, the media has no choice but to fight back. They took offense to having their own privacy fukked with.
Also, a company like Verizon is probably pissed off that it has to turn over these phone records. This is a PR nightmare for them, even if the other companies had to turn over the same things. All these articles mention Verizon by name.
that's what's funny. it doesn't make any sense because they both work together hand and hand. wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't a smokescreen to avoid something else that is being ignored such as the boston bombing situation.
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FYI, I had to delete your prior post quoting that image, just so that are no questions in the future.
As to this policy, it's been going on forever, but to have the guy who sponsored the bill in 05 that would've banned it, sit back and let it continue is a terrible look. I think one of the whistleblowers said the only difference now is that the Obama administration actually gets orders that allow these things to happen as opposed to it just being a thing that was done prior to it.
all around. I have to read some stuff. This is easily the worst thing this administration has allowed or endorsed IMO.
what the fukk is funny?
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FYI, I had to delete your prior post quoting that image, just so that are no questions in the future.
As to this policy, it's been going on forever, but to have the guy who sponsored the bill in 05 that would've banned it, sit back and let it continue is a terrible look. I think one of the whistleblowers said the only difference now is that the Obama administration actually gets orders that allow these things to happen as opposed to it just being a thing that was done prior to it.
No problem, Good move.
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FYI, I have no objections to the deletion. I'm not Tom, don't plan to be a Tom either.
Honestly, I really don't put the blame on the administration entirely (though, they get a hell of a lot). Congress passed this law and they all reauthorized it whenever they got the chance. If you give the executive a means to collect data, they will use it. I don't care who the president is, it's foolish to hope that the executive branch will just sit back, with all those advisers in that room and not use a tool that we've given them. It's time to curtail that legislation entirely. Anyone sitting here and saying, "but it's legal given the Patriot Act" ignores that though it may be legal via legislation, it may actually be unconstitutional and many provisions have not yet been challenged in court. We gave up too much when we got scared and then we thought that, putting a guy who seemed pretty liberal back in 2005 would be the panacea. But nobody in those chambers has rolled back any extension of executive power since people like Cheney were pushing for those extensions in the 70s.
I have a lot of questions for Mr. Koh the next time I see him
To expand (I keep editing as this shyt continues to piss me off), I think there we be some rational explanation for this and in some sense, they'll find a way to make it make sense. Feinstein and Chambliss (who might be the worst human being in the Senate), are trying too. But, there are sometimes your visceral reaction to something being wrong is right. I feel like this is one of those times. I'm happy this came out because otherwise we'd probably never fix it. This is where the public has to do it's job. The media has already done theirs.
I have a lot of questions for Mr. Koh the next time I see him
To expand (I keep editing as this shyt continues to piss me off), I think there we be some rational explanation for this and in some sense, they'll find a way to make it make sense. Feinstein and Chambliss (who might be the worst human being in the Senate), are trying too. But, there are sometimes your visceral reaction to something being wrong is right. I feel like this is one of those times. I'm happy this came out because otherwise we'd probably never fix it. This is where the public has to do it's job. The media has already done theirs.
If this was true, we'd be balls deep in Syria and Iran right now.
