Not trolling, is the Willie Mayes catch THAT special anymore?

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Like its obvious a famous catch, the most famous all time, its obviously a great play but is it really AS great compared to catches weve now seen over the years?

I mean we cant really gauge the catch because the film is not the same so we dont know. Now I know he got a DP off the play, take that out for a second, Im talking just the catch, all time play? yes but by far the best catch of all time? I think there maybe 5-6 better catches if not more minimum
 

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way to rain on history. Let shyt be already. Greatness remains great. A catch like Mays' in the 1954 World Series at the Polo Grounds will always be historically great.


As far as greatest catches ever, that's left up to the person, right? If you don't think it's the best catch ever, then fine. It doesn't have to be. If others feel differently, cool.
 

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if that's the case, nothing that ever happened in the past means shyt... cause i can watch sportscenter and youtube and see great plays daily.

well I sort of agree, why only in baseball do we hype up the old players like that? Nobody thinks a dunk from the 60s is better than a Vince Carter dunk.

But Im not even shytting on Mayes he was a legit great and so is the catch but a lot of people, well a lot of the old baseball writers who are ass backwards, still consider this number one all time, Im sorry its far from it.

Why is baseball the only sport stuck in the past?
 

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well I sort of agree, why only in baseball do we hype up the old players like that? Nobody thinks a dunk from the 60s is better than a Vince Carter dunk.

But Im not even shytting on Mayes he was a legit great and so is the catch but a lot of people, well a lot of the old baseball writers who are ass backwards, still consider this number one all time, Im sorry its far from it.

Why is baseball the only sport stuck in the past?


That is ridiculously false. If anything, it's more of an indictment on how the younger generation wants to feel like everything that was great happened in their lifetime, and that goes beyond sports. It happens in society. You're just another example.

Older people will be more attached to shyt they saw, which is no different than you wanting to be more attached to the shyt you see now. For example, IMO, the 1998 Yankees are the greatest baseball team ever. More people will say it's Murderers' Row, but that's just a difference of opinion. I've seen more acrobatic catches in random NFL games than shyt like the Immaculate Reception. All those "greatest (insert category here) ever" lists are just opinions. Once you come to terms with that, you tend to not give a shyt.
 

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wasn't mayes' catch in the world series? i would think that that had something to do with it.
 

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That is ridiculously false. If anything, it's more of an indictment on how the younger generation wants to feel like everything that was great happened in their lifetime, and that goes beyond sports. It happens in society. You're just another example.

Older people will be more attached to shyt they saw, which is no different than you wanting to be more attached to the shyt you see now. For example, IMO, the 1998 Yankees are the greatest baseball team ever. More people will say it's Murderers' Row, but that's just a difference of opinion. I've seen more acrobatic catches in random NFL games than shyt like the Immaculate Reception. All those "greatest (insert category here) ever" lists are just opinions. Once you come to terms with that, you tend to not give a shyt.
disagree. Nobody considers George Mikan the best basketball player, nobody considers some white guy in a leather helmet the best football player. Yet we consider Babe Ruth, a guy who only faced white players, the goat.

Taking a new guy over an old guy just because is like taking Kobe over Jordan. Thats not what Im talking about.

Secondly people have to face, when it comes to athletes, this isnt music or soemthing where its all opinions, the athletes of the present will ALWAYS be better than in the past, we have medical advancements these dudes didnt have.

I mean if we do an all time team in football or basketball, 90 percent or more of the players will be from the 60s and up. We do a baseball all time list and half the team only faced whites. Rogers Hornsby, Honus Wagner etc will make the list, 5 foot white guys who only faced other 5 foot white guys
 

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Of course physically it may not be the greatest catch ever. However the one thing that separates that catch from so many others is context. First of all it was made in the world series and probably the 1st catch of its kind caught on tape. Lets not forget how ridiculously hard it was to play cf on a field like the polo grounds where centerfielders had to cover damn near 500ft from the plate. If I remember right it was 480-something feet from home plate. You have to play every ball perfect to pull that off, and then turn a dp on top of that...:stopitslime:
 

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disagree. Nobody considers George Mikan the best basketball player, nobody considers some white guy in a leather helmet the best football player. Yet we consider Babe Ruth, a guy who only faced white players, the goat.

Taking a new guy over an old guy just because is like taking Kobe over Jordan. Thats not what Im talking about.

Secondly people have to face, when it comes to athletes, this isnt music or soemthing where its all opinions, the athletes of the present will ALWAYS be better than in the past, we have medical advancements these dudes didnt have.

For one, basketball has evolved physically, rule wise, etc. Also, there have been other players off merit that have surpassed him as a player. That can happen at any time. All that other shyt you're talking about is EXACTLY where I'm going with this. The difference between basketball fans /writers /etc. and baseball is that in baseball, we want you to join the greats. In basketball we want you to replace them. That's what you wanna do now with a play that people still feel is the best catch they ever saw.

As far as medical advancements and all that, um, last time I checked, in music and entertainment, technological advancements can make shyt look clearer and sound better, so it works both ways. It's all still opinion. You can be a greater athlete than those in the past and still not amount to shyt.


I mean if we do an all time team in football or basketball, 90 percent or more of the players will be from the 60s and up. We do a baseball all time list and half the team only faced whites. Rogers Hornsby, Honus Wagner etc will make the list, 5 foot white guys who only faced other 5 foot white guys

What does this have to do with your main point? So the fukk what? You'll NEVER EVER EVER be able to compare eras of any kind equally. Either get mad or get over it. You'd rather get mad.
 
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It is iconic as well as the distance he had to throw the ball was (from legends I have heard) much longer than modern day and saved a man from tagging from second and scoring to home.

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