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North Korea Thread: DPRK Launching Missiles With New ICBM
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you wake up tomorrow and check out HL and find out that trump actually did it...he dropped on hot one on pyongyang.
seoul is leveled and aflame.
u.s. bases in korea have sustained damage as well.
japan has taken a damage as well but nowhere near seoul levels.
you refresh the page and...wait, this can't be right.
2 minutes ago trump nuked pyongyang again!
china goes to the u.n. and presses for actions to be taken against the u.s. and threatens military action.
another hour goes by...and trump drops a 3rd nuke on pyongyang.
the world is collectively aghast.
finally, trump holds a press conference and announces that he will not be taking questions.
he says "as you all know, i have made the decision...a decision that previous, weak presidents could not.
pyongyang has been neutralized in the greatest display of american might the world has ever seen, and we aren't done. no we are not.
i could have stopped after one nuke and nobody would have said anything other than 'good job mr. president' and they did. that's what they said to me.
but that wasn't good enough for me or for america.
america has nuked pyongyang three times...so far.
in 45 minutes we are going to hit them again, and then we will hit them again.
every time we hit them, we win and i promised we where going to win.
so when we are tired of winning, that's when we'll stop."
then he walks off stage.
let's say it 10 hours go by from the start of this and by that time he has nuked pyongyang 10 times.
what does america do?
what does the world do?
speak on it brehs.
seoul is leveled and aflame.
u.s. bases in korea have sustained damage as well.
japan has taken a damage as well but nowhere near seoul levels.
you refresh the page and...wait, this can't be right.
2 minutes ago trump nuked pyongyang again!
china goes to the u.n. and presses for actions to be taken against the u.s. and threatens military action.
another hour goes by...and trump drops a 3rd nuke on pyongyang.
the world is collectively aghast.
finally, trump holds a press conference and announces that he will not be taking questions.
he says "as you all know, i have made the decision...a decision that previous, weak presidents could not.
pyongyang has been neutralized in the greatest display of american might the world has ever seen, and we aren't done. no we are not.
i could have stopped after one nuke and nobody would have said anything other than 'good job mr. president' and they did. that's what they said to me.
but that wasn't good enough for me or for america.
america has nuked pyongyang three times...so far.
in 45 minutes we are going to hit them again, and then we will hit them again.
every time we hit them, we win and i promised we where going to win.
so when we are tired of winning, that's when we'll stop."
then he walks off stage.
let's say it 10 hours go by from the start of this and by that time he has nuked pyongyang 10 times.
what does america do?
what does the world do?
speak on it brehs.
That'd be a war crime. And a horrible one. Like, probably the worst war crime ever. Even if he stopped at one nuke, it would still be a horrible war crime.
I don't know what would happen but I'd be feeling like it's coup time at that point.
I don't know what would happen but I'd be feeling like it's coup time at that point.
so he get's tired of winning after 10 nukes.
the u.n. begins to put together a war crimes court for trump.
the u.s. vetos.
the entire u.n. leaves and re-establishes it's self somewhere in the eu.
trump is found guilty of war crimes.
how do they enforce this?
They can't. Only options I could see would be -
1. Congress getting rid of Trump (but with the clowns controlling it now, who knows if they'd actually impeach him)
2. The rest of the world powers declare war on the US and WWIII pops off
3. Some sort of military coup and/or civil war internally to get rid of Trump
Truth be told though I'm not even sure if they'd comply with an order to start nuking N. Korea.
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The Joint Chiefs would take over and you'd see the coup happen before he has a chance to drop the first.
For all countries who are nuclear capable, no one wants to be the first to attack. It's the reason we've survived this long in a world of nuclear weapons.
For all countries who are nuclear capable, no one wants to be the first to attack. It's the reason we've survived this long in a world of nuclear weapons.
that is not how the scenario in this thread goes.
for what ever reason trump is not stopped from going ham with the nukes.
plz comment on the scenario.
Important read if you didn't see this during the election.
Trump keeps praising a controversial American general whose actions nearly prompted World War III
MacArthur has quite a storied, yet controversial, military career. He served in World War I and World War II, and received the Medal of Honor for his defense of the Philippines in 1942. But his actions in Korea almost led to a third world war, and a very public spat between MacArthur and President Harry Truman resulted in his firing for insubordination.
"It was with the deepest personal regret that I found myself compelled to take this action," Truman said in 1951, telling the nation he would be relieving the general of his command. "General MacArthur is one of our greatest military commanders. But the cause of world peace is more important than any individual."
The general had gone directly against the president and lost. Yet Monday was hardly the first time Trump has praised MacArthur.
"Remember the old days of General MacArthur and General Patton, and these great generals," Trump previously said at the Conservative Political Action Conference in 2015, when he was still weighing a run for president. "General MacArthur is spinning in his grave when he sees what we do."
On June 25, 1950, communist forces from North Korea crossed the 38th parallel into South Korea. The surprise attack resulted in numerous cities being overrun — to include Seoul — and the United Nations intervened.
MacArthur was put in command of all American troops in Korea, tasked with beating the communist forces back while also trying to minimize outside influence from China and the Soviet Union. Though defense cuts to the US military resulted in some initial failures, MacArthur eventually succeeded in driving North Korea back to the border in the fall of 1950.
Meanwhile, Truman was worried that China might enter the war, but MacArthur assured him the chances of that were slim.
His assurances proved incorrect, and hundreds of thousands of Chinese soldiers attacked American lines during the winter of 1950. The assault later led to a stunning defeat of two US Army divisions, which the Armed Forces Journal called "the greatest battlefield defeat in the Army's modern history."
The "limited war" that Truman wanted was about to expand beyond his control, as MacArthur was asking for permission to bomb inside China and help nationalist forces from Taiwan to invade the country.
A potential World War III was about to start.
Instead of seeking an expansion of the war, Truman disagreed with MacArthur's push to attack China. With the war deeply unpopular at home, the president was trying to end it by opening peace negotiations in early 1951.
General officers are supposed to give frank advice on what they believe is the best military strategy — while avoiding any public statements on policy — because they are ultimately subordinate to the president in the chain of command. As retired Army Gen. Martin Dempsey said in 2012, it is essential for service members to remain neutral in politics and follow the legitimate orders of whoever is above them, since the military is "not a special-interest group."
But MacArthur ignored this by often writing letters about what the US should do in Korea.
The "politicized, erratic and egotistical" general was undermining the president in public statements and in private communications with politicians back in the US, who were urging him to leave the military and run for president himself.
MacArthur was considered a "media whore" of his time, Daniel Drezner, a professor of international affairs at Tufts University, told Reuters. And he wasn't just insubordinate to Truman: As Tom Ricks has noted, MacArthur holds the unique record among military officers of defying three US presidents.
A scathing letter MacArthur wrote in March 1951 to a Republican congressman was the final straw for Truman.
The letter, which was read on the House floor on April 5, directly criticized the president, challenging his authority and ultimate command over the military as commander-in-chief.
"If we lose the war to communism in Asia, the fall of Europe is inevitable, win it and Europe most probably would avoid war and yet preserve freedom," MacArthur wrote. "As you pointed out, we must win. There is no substitute for victory."
Historian David McCullough later wrote that "virtually all that he said was bound to provoke Truman" — and it did.
Days later, Truman, along with his advisers and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, agreed that MacArthur had to be fired. He was replaced by Gen. Matthew Ridgway.
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-douglas-macarthur-2016-9
Trump keeps praising a controversial American general whose actions nearly prompted World War III
MacArthur has quite a storied, yet controversial, military career. He served in World War I and World War II, and received the Medal of Honor for his defense of the Philippines in 1942. But his actions in Korea almost led to a third world war, and a very public spat between MacArthur and President Harry Truman resulted in his firing for insubordination.
"It was with the deepest personal regret that I found myself compelled to take this action," Truman said in 1951, telling the nation he would be relieving the general of his command. "General MacArthur is one of our greatest military commanders. But the cause of world peace is more important than any individual."
The general had gone directly against the president and lost. Yet Monday was hardly the first time Trump has praised MacArthur.
"Remember the old days of General MacArthur and General Patton, and these great generals," Trump previously said at the Conservative Political Action Conference in 2015, when he was still weighing a run for president. "General MacArthur is spinning in his grave when he sees what we do."
On June 25, 1950, communist forces from North Korea crossed the 38th parallel into South Korea. The surprise attack resulted in numerous cities being overrun — to include Seoul — and the United Nations intervened.
MacArthur was put in command of all American troops in Korea, tasked with beating the communist forces back while also trying to minimize outside influence from China and the Soviet Union. Though defense cuts to the US military resulted in some initial failures, MacArthur eventually succeeded in driving North Korea back to the border in the fall of 1950.
Meanwhile, Truman was worried that China might enter the war, but MacArthur assured him the chances of that were slim.
His assurances proved incorrect, and hundreds of thousands of Chinese soldiers attacked American lines during the winter of 1950. The assault later led to a stunning defeat of two US Army divisions, which the Armed Forces Journal called "the greatest battlefield defeat in the Army's modern history."
The "limited war" that Truman wanted was about to expand beyond his control, as MacArthur was asking for permission to bomb inside China and help nationalist forces from Taiwan to invade the country.
A potential World War III was about to start.
Instead of seeking an expansion of the war, Truman disagreed with MacArthur's push to attack China. With the war deeply unpopular at home, the president was trying to end it by opening peace negotiations in early 1951.
General officers are supposed to give frank advice on what they believe is the best military strategy — while avoiding any public statements on policy — because they are ultimately subordinate to the president in the chain of command. As retired Army Gen. Martin Dempsey said in 2012, it is essential for service members to remain neutral in politics and follow the legitimate orders of whoever is above them, since the military is "not a special-interest group."
But MacArthur ignored this by often writing letters about what the US should do in Korea.
The "politicized, erratic and egotistical" general was undermining the president in public statements and in private communications with politicians back in the US, who were urging him to leave the military and run for president himself.
MacArthur was considered a "media whore" of his time, Daniel Drezner, a professor of international affairs at Tufts University, told Reuters. And he wasn't just insubordinate to Truman: As Tom Ricks has noted, MacArthur holds the unique record among military officers of defying three US presidents.
A scathing letter MacArthur wrote in March 1951 to a Republican congressman was the final straw for Truman.
The letter, which was read on the House floor on April 5, directly criticized the president, challenging his authority and ultimate command over the military as commander-in-chief.
"If we lose the war to communism in Asia, the fall of Europe is inevitable, win it and Europe most probably would avoid war and yet preserve freedom," MacArthur wrote. "As you pointed out, we must win. There is no substitute for victory."
Historian David McCullough later wrote that "virtually all that he said was bound to provoke Truman" — and it did.
Days later, Truman, along with his advisers and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, agreed that MacArthur had to be fired. He was replaced by Gen. Matthew Ridgway.
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-douglas-macarthur-2016-9