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Trump getting pushed to do this shyt. No way he wanna piss off his Walmart shopping crew.

On top of that they the investigations are going strong. Wtf man? This is like a movie for real
 

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Pretend America doesn't have an elite military. :mjlol:
That doesn't mean a win is guaranteed. Word to every war we've been in since WWII, outside of the Korean War and Operation Desert Storm. Having the biggest army doesn't mean shyt when you're on someone else's turf :yeshrug:
 

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I didn't say big. I said elite. :ohhh:
Big, elite, we've got our asses kicked too many times by rag tag guerrillas and "inferior armies" to keep popping shyt :francis:

We have been in the Middle East for 16 years straight and no wins to speak of :francis:
 

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Our military can't win wars because we can't hold territory. We don't have the personnel and our forces having only within the last decade been training on sustainment.
 

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Big, elite, we've got our asses kicked too many times by rag tag guerrillas and "inferior armies" to keep popping shyt :francis:

We have been in the Middle East for 16 years straight and no wins to speak of :francis:
I think you have a different definition of winning a war. If the purpose is to destabilize, topple and Institute regime change and place bases and troops in those areas we're certainly the MVP.
 

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Big, elite, we've got our asses kicked too many times by rag tag guerrillas and "inferior armies" to keep popping shyt :francis:

We have been in the Middle East for 16 years straight and no wins to speak of :francis:

That's because we're fighting an unconventional war. The reason the US military has problems in this region is because the enemies don't wear uniforms, they blend in with the rest of the local population. If we didn't have to abide by the laws of armed conflict (LOAC), we could have ran through Iraq or Afghanistan.
 

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That's because we're fighting an unconventional war. The reason the US military has problems in this region is because the enemies don't wear uniforms, they blend in with the rest of the local population. If we didn't have to abide by the laws of armed conflict (LOAC), we could have ran through Iraq or Afghanistan.
U would think an "elite" military would be able to overcome such problems :jbhmm:
 

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Big, elite, we've got our asses kicked too many times by rag tag guerrillas and "inferior armies" to keep popping shyt :francis:

We have been in the Middle East for 16 years straight and no wins to speak of :francis:
this isn't true.

TECHNICALLY, the US has "won" every war.

But its the nation building thats a problem.
 

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The US military practically finished off Saddams military within the first week with only Air power, so how did the US get exposed?
The insurgency exposed them. IEDs, VBIEDs, claymore mines, ambushes, Nation building exposed them. The US military can defeat a conventional enemy however when it comes to guerilla warfare and insurgents they fail. Same with Afghanistan. We have been there for 16 years and the Taliban is on the resurgence. This is the limits of primacy. The only reason why ISIS which was called AQI back then was almost defeated was because they paid sunni warlords to turn against them. Then the money dried up and Maliki came to power and shyt went south. Once we left ISIS began to either killed or recruit these sunni tribal warlords to fight the shia govt in Baghdad. In the end, the insurgency was a fiasco. They were facing both a shia insurgency(Mahdi Army/Kaitaib Hezbollah) and a sunni one. Also with regards to Iraq there was a reason why the US didn't even attempt to disarm the shia militias because they had ties to Iran, and that it would have open a hornet's nest of problems if they tried that. The Iraq war showed that with all the advanced technology in the world defeating an insurgency is difficult and takes alot of blood and treasure.
 
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define the goals

Dropping the enemy? They're untouchable

Building a nation? only a few successes...Germany, Japan, Korea...
So we are great at winning the battle.... but shyt at winning the war

Doesn't seem pretty elite to me.... all the military tech in the world can't overcome shytty CICs who send our troops into conflicts we have no business jumping into in the first place..........................................
 
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