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Carrier strike group wasn't headed to Korean peninsula, despite Trump's saber-rattling

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An aircraft carrier strike group that the Trump administration had said was headed toward North Korea in a powerful show of force has instead spent the last week thousands of miles away – and heading in the opposite direction.

Adm. Harry Harris, who heads U.S. Pacific Command, initially announced in a news release on April 8 that he had directed the Carl Vinson carrier strike group to "sail north" from Singapore, adding that the ships were being diverted from planned port visits to Australia.

The Trump administration cited the deployment of the naval strike force, which includes the carrier and four warships, as a clear warning to North Korea, which was said to be planning a nuclear test last weekend in conjunction with a national holiday.

“We are sending an armada, very powerful,” to the waters off Korea, President Trump told Fox Business News on April 12.

Carrier strike group wasn't headed to Korean peninsula, despite Trump's saber-rattling
Fake Thuggin :smh:
 

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Would he really do that though, wipe out the south? I think people give this kim dude more credit than he deserves on the psycho leader scale, dude Bashar in Syria is way more crazy to me

So we take out one of his missiles, he bombs the DMZ or something bunch of US soldiers die he and his generals aren't dumb they know what that would bring, end of there power trip, his families reign would be over,the war that would follow would send them back 50 years. China and Russia might huff and puff but especially China they ain't gonna do much there going to want to take proxy control of the region once we finish winning over some North Korean hearts and minds

"Wipe out" no, but attack, absolutely. That's his only strategic move.

If he doesn't show there are consequences to shooting down their missiles the administration is going to go into habitual line stepper mode.
 

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“Schrodinger’s U.S. aircraft carrier”: Asian countries mock White House’s “armada” mishap

When the U.S. announces that its military is dispatching a naval armada to the Sea of Japan, it is usually not a laughing matter. But all of Asia could not help but snicker at the news that a communications error prompted the White House to declare prematurely that an aircraft carrier was en route to the Korean Peninsula.

On Wednesday, the editor’s note on the Chinese news portal Guancha.cn, for example, was “Schrodinger’s U.S. aircraft carrier.”

“The original situation in Northeast Asia suddenly turned into a comedy,” the website wrote about the Trump administration’s latest communications flop.

The Global Times, a Chinese nationalistic tabloid, wrote that President Donald Trump’s missing armada will “sour” his authority.

North Korea’s state-run news service called Washington’s premature announcement a “bluff” that was seen as a “warning act” against the isolated country, The Wall Street Journal reported.

Asian media outlets were not the only ones to on Trump. Politicians also had a few choice words for the U.S. government.

South Korean presidential candidate Hong Joonpyo, of former leader Park Geun-hye’s ruling party, suggested that Trump’s gaffe will harm America’s credibility in the region.

“What Mr. Trump said was very important for the national security of South Korea. If that was a lie, then during Trump’s term, South Korea will not trust whatever Trump says,” Hong said.
“Schrodinger’s U.S. aircraft carrier”: Asian countries mock White House’s “armada” mishap
 

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DONALD TRUMP, NORTH KOREA, AND THE CASE OF THE PHANTOM ARMADA


I said, ‘Look, we have ships headed there,’ ” President Donald J. Trump told the Wall Street Journal on April 12th, recounting the straight talk that he had handed to President Xi Jinping, of China, on the subject of North Korea. “He says he knows it very well. I said not only are there aircraft carriers, we have the nuclear subs, which you have to let him know.” “Him” was Kim Jong-un, the leader of North Korea, whom Xi, apparently, was expected to intimidate with information that has now turned out to be false. Some degree of delusion always has to be factored in with Trump: when he referred to “the aircraft carriers” and, in another interview, with Fox Business, said that “we are sending an armada, very powerful,” he was widely understood to be referring to a single aircraft carrier, the U.S.S. Vinson, and its support ships. In fairness, the Vinson would have been powerful and provocative enough—if it had, in fact, been speeding toward the Korean Peninsula, or the Sea of Japan, or even just the Pacific Ocean, which it was not. It was in the Indian Ocean, headed in the opposite direction, for exercises with what might be described as the Australian Armada. Just when you think you see the contours of Trump’s phantom menace, he comes up with a Phantom Fleet.

Perhaps Xi knew that what he was being told was nonsense; the movements of a carrier group can’t be so hard to conceal, except, perhaps, from the people in charge of America’s foreign policy. Trump wasn’t alone on this one; it’s not a case of him just causing trouble with his phone and Twitter account, rambling about bad hombres. As the timeline makes clear, it’s even worse. (The Wall Street Journal and the Times have good versions.) On April 9th, three days before Trump’s Wall Street Journal interview, the Navy had said that it had ordered the Vinson “to sail north”; H. R. McMaster, the national-security adviser, reiterated that news on the same day, framing it as a response to North Korea’s own provocative moves. Secretary of Defense James Mattis followed that up on April 11th by saying that the Indian Ocean exercises were off, and said that the Vinson was “just on her way up there.” That was false. The next day, the Navy said again that the Vinson had been “ordered north”; it added that the effects of that deployment on “other previously scheduled activities are still being assessed during the transit.” The Pentagon is now trying to sell that last bit as a quiet correction of Mattis, which the press mysteriously missed—but that is, simply put, ridiculous. For one thing, there’s the phrase “during the transit,” which assumes that transit had begun. Or is the idea that the Vinson was on its way to the Sea of Japan, in the sense that we are all on our way from cradle to grave, or that Trump is in transit from the Oval Office to choosing items for the gift shop in his Presidential library? A lot can happen in between.

And, even if the Navy meant to correct Mattis and McMaster, it might have noticed that the President also got it wrong, and that various Administration officials, including, inevitably, Sean Spicer, responded to questions about the Vinson not with clarifications of its movements but with mini-discourses—in Spicer’s case, about how the North Koreans should not be allowed to ever have a bomb that they already do have. The most Trumpian response may have come from Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who, as the Washington Post noted in a roundup, said, at a press conference in Moscow, that the Vinson was “routinely in the Pacific,” but that was just because the Pacific was the kind of place it tended to be, because it “sails up and down,” and that “there is no particular objective in its current course”—as if carrier group commanders were meandering mariners on pleasure cruises. Tillerson added that he “would not read anything into the Vinson’s current locations”; that was on the same day that Trump, in his interview, demanded that all too much be read into the ship’s location.

This had been part of the problem from the start: even if the Vinson had been where the White House said that it was, the Administration spoke about its mission in ways that were incoherent. The contradictions, the infighting, the muddling of motives, and the diplomatic recklessness of the Administration can be so distracting that it is possible to miss the fact that a fleet is in the wrong ocean. Where does the triage begin—with the facts or the follies? And, meanwhile, what, exactly, was Xi supposed to tell the Koreans? The White House and the Pentagon were either deliberately deceiving the American people and setting up our partners, and potential partners, for a shared mortification, or they just don’t know what they are doing. Or both. This was a group effort in humiliation.

:laff: this administration is so trash bro
 

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Bruh, the president has no idea where is navy is.

This could be downright catastrophic if we ever actually go to war. :wow:
I'm saying! Could you imagine if those tests were actually completed correctly and we/Korea/Japan were waiting for the US navy to intercept those missiles - only to find out them muhfukkas were hanging out with kangaroo jack!

My god that would've been hilarious.
 

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I'm saying! Could you imagine if those tests were actually completed correctly and we/Korea/Japan were waiting for the US navy to intercept those missiles - only to find out them muhfukkas were hanging out with kangaroo jack!

My god that would've been hilarious.
Pence was throwing that tough talk at the DMZ, but he didn't have his squad behind him. :damn:
 
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