North Korea Thread: DPRK Launching Missiles With New ICBM

[King Static X]

God damn it!! You right breh... Never underestimate

Edit: They are starting this bullshyt already

Lindsey Graham: President Trump could get Nobel Prize for how he's handled Kim Jong Un

Lindsey Graham is a bytch, fukk him. Nobel Prize my ass .

 

[Camile.Bidan]

This is happening because there are two powerful men on the scene who have zero tolerance for games and bullshyt.

xi jingping and .... trump.

Hobbes, Sun Tzu and all the classic thinkers once again show how brilliant that they were at figuring out human behavior.

Post modern liberals and libertarians are getting their intellectual arguments destroyed once again by facts.

 

[Birnin Zana]

Lindsey Graham is a bytch, fukk him. Nobel Prize my ass .

These people are delusional.

Same dude who said he would be willing to totally destroy a country will get the nobel prize.

Same dude who wants to pull out of a diplomatic deal that is helping to bring some peace (Iran deal) should get the Nobel prize.

Same dude who didn’t arrange ANY of these summits should get the peace prize

They can gtfoh with that bullshyt

 

[Bawon Samedi]

This is happening because there are two powerful men on the scene who have zero tolerance for games and bullshyt.

xi jingping and .... trump.

Hobbes, Sun Tzu and all the classic thinkers once again show how brilliant that they were at figuring out human behavior.

Post modern liberals and libertarians are getting their intellectual arguments destroyed once again by facts.

You spelled South Korea wrong.

 

[Birnin Zana]

This is happening because there are two powerful men on the scene who have zero tolerance for games and bullshyt.

xi jingping and .... trump.

Hobbes, Sun Tzu and all the classic thinkers once again show how brilliant that they were at figuring out human behavior.

Post modern liberals and libertarians are getting their intellectual arguments destroyed once again by facts.

Xi and Trump co-signed the sanctions and Kim was launching missiles anyway. Kim ignored Xi’s envoys in Pyongyang on several occasions too.

No doubt the sanctions played a role, but a lot of folks are underestimating the moves the Koreans (North and South) have been making.

The South managed to project itself as an honest broker that the North can deal with when it comes to issues with the US. Until very recently, the North didn’t go to China for help with the US. They went to Moon and the South. Which greatly benefits Moon and the South, as chances of them being victims of a conflict significantly decreased as a result. They did all that while managing to maintain a good relationship with the US, which is short of amazing. It’s because of Moon and his team that Kim’s offer to talk made to to Trump, who then accepted.

Meanwhile, the North got their weight up by upping their nuke program. Now, Kim is making moves in his terms. After ignoring Beijing for years, he damn near looked like an equal to Xi when he was in Beijing. He had a successful summit with Moon and the South. Trump is down to meeting him. The Russians are open to meeting with him. Xi accepted Kim’s invitation to come to Pyongyang. Moon is coming to Pyongyang in the fall. Even Abe, who was talking a whole lot of hawkish stuff, now wants to meet with Kim. On top of all of that, he might end up with significant gains in negotiations, depending on how things go.

The Koreans really played a masterclass in diplomacy. Feelings aside, it’s quite impressive.

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

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This is happening because there are two powerful men on the scene who have zero tolerance for games and bullshyt.

xi jingping and .... trump.

Hobbes, Sun Tzu and all the classic thinkers once again show how brilliant that they were at figuring out human behavior.

Post modern liberals and libertarians are getting their intellectual arguments destroyed once again by facts.

 

[Propaganda]

i wonder how much the earthquake that supposedly destroyed their nuclear testing facility had to do with all this.

 

[FAH1223]

Xi and Trump co-signed the sanctions and Kim was launching missiles anyway. Kim ignored Xi’s envoys in Pyongyang on several occasions too.

No doubt the sanctions played a role, but a lot of folks are underestimating the moves the Koreans (North and South) have been making.

The South managed to project itself as an honest broker that the North can deal with when it comes to issues with the US. Until very recently, the North didn’t go to China for help with the US. They went to Moon and the South. Which greatly benefits Moon and the South, as chances of them being victims of a conflict significantly decreased as a result. They did all that while managing to maintain a good relationship with the US, which is short of amazing. It’s because of Moon and his team that Kim’s offer to talk made to to Trump, who then accepted.

Meanwhile, the North got their weight up by upping their nuke program. Now, Kim is making moves in his terms. After ignoring Beijing for years, he damn near looked like an equal to Xi when he was in Beijing. He had a successful summit with Moon and the South. Trump is down to meeting him. The Russians are open to meeting with him. Ic accepted Kim’s invitation to come to Pyongyang. Moon is coming to Pyongyang in the fall. Even Abe, who was talking a whole lot of hawkish stuff, now wants to meet with Kim. On top of all of that, he might end up with significant gains in negotiations, depending on how things go.

The Koreans really played a masterclass in diplomacy. Feelings aside, it’s quite impressive.

If Abe drops his hawkish rhetoric, that'd be a good thing. People forget... many Koreans whether it is north or south hate the Japanese as they are the former colonial overlord which BTW has the materials and capabilities to produce its own nuclear weapons over a long weekend or so

 

[Birnin Zana]

If Abe drops his hawkish rhetoric, that'd be a good thing. People forget... many Koreans whether it is north or south hate the Japanese as they are the former colonial overlord which BTW has the materials and capabilities to produce its own nuclear weapons over a long weekend or so

At one point, Abe had a worse approval rating in South Korea than Kim.

Survey: South Koreans Prefer Kim Jong-un to Shinzo Abe

If that’s how the South feels, no doubt the North isn’t fond of him either.

His hawkish rhetoric is all he has. Should North Korea play ball somehow, he’ll have nothing left. The North Korea issue is keeping him alive politically.

 

[choc_cardigan]

At one point, Abe had a worse approval rating in South Korea than Kim.

Survey: South Koreans Prefer Kim Jong-un to Shinzo Abe

If that’s how the South feels, no doubt the North isn’t fond of him either.

His hawkish rhetoric is all he has. Should North Korea play ball somehow, he’ll have nothing left. The North Korea issue is keeping him alive politically.

So lo key part of the reason they did this was to shyt on Japan

 

[Json]

North Korea is playing us for a bunch of fools. There entire power structure relies on them not developing or allowing outside influences.

Bet anything America leaving the peninsula is going to be the main strategy for NK and China. Trump’s isolationism is going to go for it.

 

[Disclosure]

i wonder how much the earthquake that supposedly destroyed their nuclear testing facility had to do with all this.

North Korea’s Nuclear Test Site Has Collapsed: Chinese Scientists

North Korea’s Nuclear Test Site Has Collapsed: Chinese Scientists
Chinese scientists urge the authorities to monitor and prevent potential radioactive leakage.

By Charlotte Gao
April 27, 2018
With North Korean Supreme Leader Kim Jong-un and South Korean President Moon Jae-in soon to kick off their historic meeting at the inter-Korean border, Chinese scientists reported that Punggye-ri, the only known nuclear test site of North Korea, has collapsed. This may partly explain why Kim suddenly announced that North Korea “no longer needs” to test its weapons capability last week, and promised to dismantle the test site at Punggye-ri.

On April 23, the University of Science and Technology of China (USTC) — one of China’s national research universities under the direct leadership of the Chinese Academy of Sciences — released a study report, confirming that the Punggye-ri nuclear test site, located fewer than 100 miles (160 kilometers) from the Chinese border, has collapsed. The study also claimed that a series of tremors and landslides that took place recently in the area near the site were triggered by North Korea’s latest nuclear test and the ensuing site collapse.

On September 3, 2017, North Korea conducted its sixth nuclear test, causing powerful tremors felt strongly in China. According to USTC’s analysis at that time, the power of the North Korea’s sixth nuclear test was “3 to 7.8 times stronger than that of the Nagasaki atomic bomb — Fat Man — dropped by the United States in 1945.”

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The USTC website also released a one-page summary of its research last fall, concluding that (all sic) “The occurrence of the collapse should deem the underground infrastructure beneath mountain Mantap not be used for any future nuclear tests.”

The latest research from USTC has been accepted and is to be published soon by Geophysical Research Letters, a journal of the American Geophysical Union.

In addition to USTC’s findings, Geophysical Research Letters last month published another study, titled “North Korea’s 2017 Test and its Nontectonic Aftershock,” also written by Chinese scientists.

The first author, Liu Junqing, a researcher at the Jilin Earthquake Agency (located just within the Chinese border, near the Punggye-ri nuclear test site) concluded in this study that the September nuclear test explosion “created a cavity and a damaged ‘chimney’ of rocks.”

He continued:

The aftershock was neither a secondary explosion nor a triggered tectonic earthquake. It occurred due to a process comparable to a “mirror image”of the explosion, that is, a rock collapse, or compaction, for the first time documented in North Korea’s test site… Small natural earthquakes also occur at the test site, and geotechnical works might trigger them. Thus, all studies related to rock stability of the site, and prevention of radioactive leakage, are important.

Liu’s concern about radioactive leakage echos USTC’s research, as USTC also urged the authorities to monitor radioactive substances caused by the collapse.

As The Diplomat has been closely following, North Korea’s sixth nuclear test as well as its ensuing earthquake caused strong tremors — both physically and mentally– in China.

Particularly on September 23 last year, a suspected explosion, equal to a 3.4 earthquake, happened close to the Punggye-ri nuclear test site. The event was detected by the China Earthquake Administration (CEA) and seriously agitated the Chinese public.

The CEA later claimed that the quake was a natural occurrence rather than a nuclear detonation. But according to the recent research, that quake, along with others, was triggered by the earlier nuclear test.

However, while these studies conducted by Chinese scientists have been widely circulated on foreign media, so far no Chinese local media has reported on the findings at all.

 

[Birnin Zana]

So lo key part of the reason they did this was to shyt on Japan

Lol kinda. Moon himself clashed with Abe on a lot of stuff, including the North Korea issue. Kim obviously doesn’t like him.

Add that to the territorial disputes South Korea has with Japan plus general sentiments all Koreans have about the Japanese government and you get shyt like this:

Unjust desserts: dish planned for Korean summit prompts anger in Japan

Surely both Koreas knew that Japan would lodge a complaint over the disputed territories being included into the summit dessert, but the reaction by the North and South so far amounted to

 

[DonKnock]

BUT... if there is "new" peace then who will the Kim regime scapegoat for their issues? This is a serious question.

Ideally many of their issues will go away as they are gradually no longer embargoed and sanctioned by the rest of the world

We will see how it actually goes tho

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Ideally many of their issues will go away as they are gradually no longer embargoed and sanctioned by the rest of the world

We will see how it actually goes tho

What I mean is... What if the people finally decide to resist? There is no longer any South Korean or American boogyman.