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Japan absolutely decimated before the nukes were dropped on them, know your history before just believing whatever the US government tells you :mjlol:
Yeah, Japan was getting mopped up in China after Germany fell because the Soviet Union joined the conflict.



They were basically the last ones fighting because they were too stubborn to give up, but it was all but over before that.
 

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Yeah, Japan was getting mopped up in China after Germany fell because the Soviet Union joined the conflict.



They were basically the last ones fighting because they were too stubborn to give up, but it was all but over before that.


And the US dropped back to back nukes on civilian populations and they’re STILL dealing with the cancer from the radiation for generations
 

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Yeah, Japan was getting mopped up in China after Germany fell because the Soviet Union joined the conflict.

They were basically the last ones fighting because they were too stubborn to give up, but it was all but over before that.
The Japanese military and civilians weren't going to stop fighting until the Emperor told them to stop. The nukes made the Japanese Emperor fall back.

There was literally a Japanese soldier committing guerilla warfare in the Philippines until 1974. He thought that the war was still going on :mjlol:
 

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The Japanese military and civilians weren't going to stop fighting until the Emperor told them to stop. The nukes made the Japanese Emperor fall back.

There was literally a Japanese soldier committing guerilla warfare in the Philippines until 1974. He thought that the war was still going on :mjlol:

The emperor doesn't represent their soldiers though. They were getting handled towards the end of the war.

I mean, even after the first nuke the emperor wasn't willing to surrender because he thought America couldn't have more than one of those weapons. Do you think people who saw that wanted more after the first bomb though?

A lot of those soldiers in China and the Philippines fled their posts after they were defeated in those countries.

That Japanese General in charge of the operations through The Philippines was found guilty of being a war criminal, he didn't die courageously on the battlefield. They retreated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomoyuki_Yamashyta
 
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The emperor doesn't represent their soldiers though. They were getting handled towards the end of the war.

I mean, even after the first nuke the emperor wasn't willing to surrender because he thought America couldn't have more than one of those weapons. Do you think people who saw that wanted more after the first bomb though?

A lot of those soldiers in China and the Philippines fled their posts after they were defeated in those countries.

That Japanese General in charge of the operations through The Philippines was found guilty of being a war criminal, he didn't die courageously on the battlefield. They retreated.

You just added to my point. Without the nukes, Japan wouldn't have surrendered.
 

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You just added to my point. Without the nukes, Japan wouldn't have surrendered.
They were screwed no matter what breh and either route they took a lot of people were going to die with China, Russia and The U.S basically cornering them with Germany defeated an no longer a threat.

All the focus was then on removing Japan from China and attacking Japan, which was already underway by the time the bombs dropped. They were losing more and more rapidly by the time the first one landed. It was only a matter of time.

If they surrendered after two bombs, they weren't willing to go the distance because they didn't go the distance. They basically loved to punch downward and couldn't take it back once the war turned directions.
 
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On August 10, 1945, Japan offered to surrender to the Allies, the only condition being that the emperor be allowed to remain the nominal head of state. Planning for the use of additional nuclear weapons continued even as these deliberations were ongoing.
 

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This simply is not true. The U.S. and Japan were in surrender talks. The U.S. wanted to drop them thangs so Stalin would fall back.
On August 10, 1945, Japan offered to surrender to the Allies, the only condition being that the emperor be allowed to remain the nominal head of state. Planning for the use of additional nuclear weapons continued even as these deliberations were ongoing.
August 10, 1945 was AFTER the nukes were dropped. C'mon breh :stopitslime:
 

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They would’ve surrendered without multiple nukes being dropped on them, I understood what you said


You don’t know history
You're the one who doesn't know history.

Emperor Hirohito broke the Japanese Supreme War Council's deadlock over whether to surrender. A deadlock meant the continuation of the war. Also, Hirohito cited the nuclear bombings in his remarks to the Supreme War Council & his surrender address to the Japanese people.
 

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Russia been negotiating with Eritrea to set up a navy base in Assab port by the Red Sea :damn: these nicca playing chess
 
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