Norse 'Berserker' warriors

Mowgli

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I find that to be silly, given that weapon and empty hand training are intrinsically intertwined in martial arts training. A great example is the jujutsu you love and kenjutsu, for example, or fencing and boxing, or bajiquan and the spear. Don't disparage the training of weapons, friend. Weapons are just extensions of the body. And it is no surprise that many of the greatest empty hand fighters of the past were also masters with one or many weapons, and vice-versa.

Well to me, this is my opinion, if you're nice with a sword but get the crap beat out of you with your hands i cant say that you're really a bad ass. I dont respect the vikings. They were mauraders who preyed on the weak and even they knew their limitations. There were certain areas in europe that had real nikkas they wouldnt even consider fukkin with. At the same time, europe had a lot weak people in general so its easy to paint the picture of them being these badasses when they were going up against weaklines.
 

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Well to me, this is my opinion, if you're nice with a sword but get the crap beat out of you with your hands i cant say that you're really a bad ass. I dont respect the vikings. They were mauraders who preyed on the weak and even they knew their limitations. There were certain areas in europe that had real nikkas they wouldnt even consider fukkin with. At the same time, europe had a lot weak people in general so its easy to paint the picture of them being these badasses when they were going up against weaklines.

:mjpls: considering their populations, the gap in technology they had between a lot of their opponents, and their general goals (to power their own resource lacking society by taking from others, they did quite alright. I agree that there is a lot of romanticizing of their abilities as "noble savages", but there is just as much downplaying of their culture, art, technology, and skills.

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Dude went on and on in a thread about how he could KO a chimp by putting him a headlock. This is after ppl posted news articles about chimps effortlessly tearing human body parts/car doors off. He's a troll :manny:

lmaoooooooooooo
 

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Yes, exactly. UFC and MMA is NOT a life or death struggle, and in fact their desperate attempts to push this whole "warrior" identity as integral to the sport and liken themselves to warriors from older eras only serve to further emphasize that fact. The idea that MMA fighters are the greatest warriors who have ever lived is not only full of inconsistency and vague, ahistorical notions but also just laughable.

The US military is also latching on to this terminology over the last 5 years or so and it's similarly semantically tricky. The average modern military person (from any country) hasn't seen any front line combat nevermind looking an enemy in the eye.. and getting wounded by bombs and things, although real enough, is not analogous to hack-and-slash warrior wounds cause it's not like you had a fight with the explosive
 

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mowgli is probably spot on about how they were built

but i think hes discounting the fact they would go for his eyes, groin, and were in general under a state or permanent adrenaline for the duration of some battles

mowgli like 36 vs some 22 year old mushroom eating corn liquor drinking viking

i got my money on the viking :ld:
 

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The US military is also latching on to this terminology over the last 5 years or so and it's similarly semantically tricky. The average modern military person (from any country) hasn't seen any front line combat nevermind looking an enemy in the eye.. and getting wounded by bombs and things, although real enough, is not analogous to hack-and-slash warrior wounds cause it's not like you had a fight with the explosive

Yeah it's pure fantasy. The other major culprit is that garbage show Deadliest Warrior, which is equally full of hypothetical-oriented speculation, complete ahistorical and decontextualized nonsense, and also macho, chest-beating nationalism.

People like Egil Skallagrimsson and Musashi Miyamoto were killing people before they hit puberty. To think that we can understand the minds of people like that and compare their context to the sport of commercial fighting is absurd.
 

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:mjpls: considering their populations, the gap in technology they had between a lot of their opponents, and their general goals (to power their own resource lacking society by taking from others, they did quite alright. I agree that there is a lot of romanticizing of their abilities as "noble savages", but there is just as much downplaying of their culture, art, technology, and skills.

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You are the most level headed person in this thread. :lawd:

Im see they did their thing. A lot of raiding :skip: and at the same time i cant romanticize these people as you said because theres no reason too. They did some raiding and marauding but again a lot of the ass kicking they performed was against the weak. This notion that they conquered Europe is a joke because in many cases they worked with other europeans and helped them. Having settlements is far from conquering and ruling nations. :yeshrug:
 

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do you guys think they were on drugs or just adrenaline? I guess they had some sort of religious rituals going on and the costumes and screaming and sh1t that kinda made them think a bit differently

group pressure is the greatest drug, especially in the primitive ages.
 

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mowgli is probably spot on about how they were built

but i think hes discounting the fact they would go for his eyes, groin, and were in general under a state or permanent adrenaline for the duration of some battles

mowgli like 36 vs some 22 year old mushroom eating corn liquor drinking viking

i got my money on the viking :ld:

:heh: You have no idea the extent of my abilities. I dont need mushrooms and psychadelic trash to tap into the kind of focus these fool had to manufacture with drug addiction.

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You are the most level headed person in this thread. :lawd:

Im see they did their thing. A lot of raiding :skip: and at the same time i cant romanticize these people as you said because theres no reason too. They did some raiding and marauding but again a lot of the ass kicking they performed was against the weak. This notion that they conquered Europe is a joke because in many cases they worked with other europeans and helped them. Having settlements is far from conquering and ruling nations. :yeshrug:

the weak? In those ages, who were the weak?
 
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