Norse 'Berserker' warriors

[zerozero]

Zero stop it. You arent versed well enough in hand to hand combat to make these claims. I would beat the shyt out of one of these vikings. MMA takes pure physical strength. Its not a gentle art. Now against those swords and things like that obviously, id be dashed to death but with a fair one? Please.

Also, what was huge back in those times. Most these cats were flabby n sick lookin so im sure by huge you're talking someone between 160 and 180 on Average with their brutes being in the low 200's. Its a misconception that they were all a band of large brolic individuals. Jon Jones could beat the shyt out of every viking that ever lived.

I know MMA takes physical strength but my point is that it uses skill to leverage the strength in a certain way that can't be used against people who'll just eat the hits or won't fall. It's a mistake to think that human strength and skill increases with chronological time. How many 200+ dudes today can carry an Axe and Sword around 24/7? Can Jon Jones even beat a skilled gladiator hand to hand? What makes you say that?

Come on breh ancient and medieval warriors used to run out in open fields and hit one guy after the other like in a movie until someone put a spear through them. Imagine actually running through a battlefield on a horse and swinging at one guy after another for hours ducking arrows and sh1t. Now why would we assume that modern humans can do that better?

 

[The Real]

I know MMA takes physical strength but my point is that it uses skill to leverage the strength in a certain way that can't be used against people who'll just eat the hits or won't fall. It's a mistake to think that human strength and skill increases with chronological time. How many 200+ dudes today can carry an Axe and Sword around 24/7? Can Jon Jones even beat a skilled gladiator hand to hand? What makes you say that?

Come on breh ancient and medieval warriors used to run out in open fields and hit one guy after the other like in a movie until someone put a spear through them. Imagine actually running through a battlefield on a horse and swinging at one guy after another for hours ducking arrows and sh1t. Now why would we assume that modern humans can do that better?

He's a desperate old man in a midlife crisis. His posts lately have been extra bitter and . He's not interested in actual historical or logical reasoning, but rather in proving something to himself.

 

[Fillerguy]

I know MMA takes physical strength but my point is that it uses skill to leverage the strength in a certain way that can't be used against people who'll just eat the hits or won't fall. It's a mistake to think that human strength and skill increases with chronological time. How many 200+ dudes today can carry an Axe and Sword around 24/7? Can Jon Jones even beat a skilled gladiator hand to hand? What makes you say that?

Come on breh ancient and medieval warriors used to run out in open fields and hit one guy after the other like in a movie until someone put a spear through them. Imagine actually running through a battlefield on a horse and swinging at one guy after another for hours ducking arrows and sh1t. Now why would we assume that modern humans can do that better?

Dude went on and on in a thread about how he could KO a chimp by putting him a headlock. This is after ppl posted news articles about chimps effortlessly tearing human body parts/car doors off. He's a troll

 

[zerozero]

lol he's alright as far as I'm concerned though. I don't agree with him on some social/political stuff but who I agree with on sohh/coli doesn't correlate too much to who I get along with

 

[ThatTruth777]

Mowgli... you spitting some truth about how historical accounts can be exaggerated from a time period but bruh... these dudes killed people whenever and however and seem to have no quarrels with taking a life. MMA aint about that life like that mayne because we got shyt call laws now in most places. I aint even trying to elevate these dudes like that but they were some brutal motherfukkers c'mon!

 

[Robbie3000]

Dude went on and on in a thread about how he could KO a chimp by putting him a headlock. This is after ppl posted news articles about chimps effortlessly tearing human body parts/car doors off. He's a troll

he has been pretty bitter as of late.

 

[Techniec]

Dude went on and on in a thread about how he could KO a chimp by putting him a headlock. This is after ppl posted news articles about chimps effortlessly tearing human body parts/car doors off. He's a troll

mowgli= goat

btw this intoxicated state reminds me of the hashashin

 

[Mowgli]

He's a desperate old man in a midlife crisis. His posts lately have been extra bitter and . He's not interested in actual historical or logical reasoning, but rather in proving something to himself.

Getting personal in defense of weak cacs. What a sad little man you've become.

 

[Mowgli]

Mowgli... you spitting some truth about how historical accounts can be exaggerated from a time period but bruh... these dudes killed people whenever and however and seem to have no quarrels with taking a life. MMA aint about that life like that mayne because we got shyt call laws now in most places. I aint even trying to elevate these dudes like that but they were some brutal motherfukkers c'mon!

What stops UFC fighters from practically killing someone in the ring. Take a look at this footage and see if you can figure it out. The killer instinct of MMA fighters is beyond anything a Viking could have ever hoped to accomplished in a fair one. Stop it stop it STOP IT!

No Viking that ever existed could withstand the Hendo b0mb in hand to hand combat. Now ok, they might be aight with swords and all that but in hand to hand struggles they are an inferior class of human beings compared to todays MMA fighters. How you guys even deny this makes me snicker a little bit. I guess many of you(maybe not you) feel inferior to cacs in a way because of the pathetic limitations youve given yourselves but todays human beings are the most physically powerful that ever lived. We have the training, we have the supplements, we have the steroids (for those who take them). Berzerker rage v.s steroid rage = steroids winning. Vikings are not prepared for the type of beating and technique thousands of years of hand to hand combat have culminated into todays MMA fighters. Stop it.

 

[zerozero]

I dunno breh. it's not just about vikings breh. we're talking warriors. Actual WARRIORS. I find it comical that you'd even think that UFC fighters are built for this sh1t... what about this Aztec who killed eight jaguar warriors before falling

Badass of the Week: Tlahuicole

I'm not saying they were superhuman or whatever.. but their minds and bodies were completely different because of their environment. I do not think you can drop a boxing-ass dude to fight the average medieval champion from any culture and find him victorious. At least we can agree that when medieval weapons are involved modern humans don't stand a chance cause nobody trains heavily with weapons anymore

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Yeah Mowgli, i feel your physical strength argument but the mentality thing is silly. These people fought for their lives, not paychecks. It's not about cacs or non cacs (although im sad to see you bring it to that level), but the simple fact that these guys were trained from birth to be killers. Just like the greek spartans, the african zande, the japanese samurai etc... Their stake in the martial arts was one of literally life or death, and that was their careers.

I'm surprised you have this stance.

 

[Mowgli]

I dunno breh. it's not just about vikings breh. we're talking warriors. Actual WARRIORS. I find it comical that you'd even think that UFC fighters are built for this sh1t... what about this Aztec who killed eight jaguar warriors before falling

Badass of the Week: Tlahuicole

I'm not saying they were superhuman or whatever.. but their minds and bodies were completely different because of their environment. I do not think you can drop a boxing-ass dude to fight the average medieval champion from any culture and find him victorious. At least we can agree that when medieval weapons are involved modern humans don't stand a chance cause nobody trains heavily with weapons anymore

Anyone trained to use blugeoning/edged weapons is going to be dangerous. Obviously, because of the gun we no longer need these weapons. How many Vikings could the top Seal team on the planet destroy in a combative scenario. Vikings/aztecs etc were cool and had their weaponed techniques that made them dangerous foes. Strip them of these weapons and turn the fight into whos the better man, Jon Jones will kill them all. Jon Jones will destroy every single Aztec and Viking in hand to hand combat.

 

[Mowgli]

Yeah Mowgli, i feel your physical strength argument but the mentality thing is silly. These people fought for their lives, not paychecks. It's not about cacs or non cacs (although im sad to see you bring it to that level), but the simple fact that these guys were trained from birth to be killers. Just like the greek spartans, the african zande, the japanese samurai etc... Their stake in the martial arts was one of literally life or death, and that was their careers.

I'm surprised you have this stance.

I dont know why you're surprised. People who are nice with weapons v.s their bare hands are 2 different animals. I dont give anyone props because they're good with a knife or a gun. That tells an aspect of their character but not the raw reality. Strip that knife, strip that gun, strip that blade, strip that hammer and what do you have when you have a man with his 2 legs and 2 hands. In the Vikings case, you have a bytch who will get crushed by Jon Jones. People who spend their lives putting their spirit into their weapons are crushed when these weapons are stripped from them.

 

[The Real]

I dunno breh. it's not just about vikings breh. we're talking warriors. Actual WARRIORS. I find it comical that you'd even think that UFC fighters are built for this sh1t... what about this Aztec who killed eight jaguar warriors before falling

Badass of the Week: Tlahuicole

I'm not saying they were superhuman or whatever.. but their minds and bodies were completely different because of their environment. I do not think you can drop a boxing-ass dude to fight the average medieval champion from any culture and find him victorious. At least we can agree that when medieval weapons are involved modern humans don't stand a chance cause nobody trains heavily with weapons anymore

Yes, exactly. UFC and MMA is NOT a life or death struggle, and in fact their desperate attempts to push this whole "warrior" identity as integral to the sport and liken themselves to warriors from older eras only serve to further emphasize that fact. The idea that MMA fighters are the greatest warriors who have ever lived is not only full of inconsistency and vague, ahistorical notions but also just laughable.

Anyway, seems like Mowg is beginning to understand now. He started off by saying that vikings were weak, then backtracked to saying he could kill a viking in unarmed combat, then backtracked further to saying an MMA champion could kill a viking in unarmed combat.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

I dont know why you're surprised. People who are nice with weapons v.s their bare hands are 2 different animals. I dont give anyone props because they're good with a knife or a gun. That tells an aspect of their character but not the raw reality. Strip that knife, strip that gun, strip that blade, strip that hammer and what do you have when you have a man with his 2 legs and 2 hands. In the Vikings case, you have a bytch who will get crushed by Jon Jones. People who spend their lives putting their spirit into their weapons are crushed when these weapons are stripped from them.

I find that to be silly, given that weapon and empty hand training are intrinsically intertwined in martial arts training. A great example is the jujutsu you love and kenjutsu, for example, or fencing and boxing, or bajiquan and the spear. Don't disparage the training of weapons, friend. Weapons are just extensions of the body. And it is no surprise that many of the greatest empty hand fighters of the past were also masters with one or many weapons, and vice-versa.