NoDQ writes op-ed on Divas killing the Women's Revolution, Paige and co respond

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Also the idea that it's somehow the women's fault for how the divas were booked is completely laughable. WWE themselves didn't even care about the women until it became a bad look for them through a twitter hashtag. Paige & Emma were already on the main roster by the time that happened too so obviously WWE wasn't worried about no women's revolution by the time they got called up :mjlol:
But y'all wanna talk about revisionist history.
 

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I'm not drinking the Kool-Aid that WWE is selling. You can't have AJ cut a promo on the Bellas being interchangeable, untalented excuses for women, and then a few years later, revise history to make it seem like the Bellas were ahead of their time and pushing women's wrestling forward. It doesn't work like that.

And the women need to stop responding to everything. If Evolution gets trashed, are they going to go after those critics too? :what:

They have a monopoly, the control the narrative. In 20 years they'll make it seem like the Bellas have 5 star classics and that HHH was the best superstar ever.
 

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I'm not drinking the Kool-Aid that WWE is selling. You can't have AJ cut a promo on the Bellas being interchangeable, untalented excuses for women, and then a few years later, revise history to make it seem like the Bellas were ahead of their time and pushing women's wrestling forward. It doesn't work like that.

This is the shyt that gets on my nerves, fam. WWE can't be constantly shytting on that era of women's wrestling and at the same time demand fans be respectful of the talent from that time. Talent, by the way, that they themselves shyt on by giving them those short ass matches, having stars like AJ and Paige whose WHOLE GIMMICKS were built around being the opposite of the Total Divas mold, and essentially building the 4HW as ushering in something better. They themselves created the negative connotation around the word "Diva" within the context of WWE.

You can't have it both ways. I'm sorry that women like The Bellas or Trish didn't get the opportunities the women of today are getting, but that's progress. Don't be mad at fans for calling out the revisionist history and what feels like steps backward; be mad at WWE for putting that glass ceiling there in the first place.



This roster stays in their feelings about dumb shyt :mjlol:
This too. I've said it before, but for a field supposedly full of tough guys and tough girls, wrestlers are sensitive as fukk to criticism. I follow a lot of creatives on Twitter, and if one of them is whining about their fanbase criticizing their work, 9/10 times it's a wrestler. And listening to some of these podcasts? Bruh, I can feel the hurt secreting from my speakers.

I get it; fans can be obnoxious as hell, and I fully support clapping back when the situation calls for it. It's just that a lot of these wrestlers act like they can't stand even the mere idea that fans would have negative feedback or opinions on what they do.
 

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I mean... I'm not watching either way so I don't really have an opinion on the show itself and what they're doing, but this is pretty much par the course with the WWE. Today's Stars getting 2nd billing while the stars of yesterday overcharge Cokeboy for what he did 15-20 years ago. It's not male or female, it's nostalgia. And Wrestling Fans always pop for the right kind of nostalgia. :yeshrug:

That being said, it IS funny to watch the ones that this shyt clearly hit close to home to get in their feelings when they should be mad at the company for being the reason that perception of them exists in the first place. Wouldn't be a negative connotation to "Divas" if the WWE didn't spend close to a quarter of a century building it.
 

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this is pretty much par the course with the WWE. Today's Stars getting 2nd billing while the stars of yesterday overcharge Cokeboy for what he did 15-20 years ago. It's not male or female, it's nostalgia. And Wrestling Fans always pop for the right kind of nostalgia. :yeshrug:
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This is the shyt that gets on my nerves, fam. WWE can't be constantly shytting on that era of women's wrestling and at the same time demand fans be respectful of the talent from that time. Talent, by the way, that they themselves shyt on by giving them those short ass matches, having stars like AJ and Paige whose WHOLE GIMMICKS were built around being the opposite of the Total Divas mold, and essentially building the 4HW as ushering in something better. They themselves created the negative connotation around the word "Diva" within the context of WWE.

You can't have it both ways. I'm sorry that women like The Bellas or Trish didn't get the opportunities the women of today are getting, but that's progress. Don't be mad at fans for calling out the revisionist history and what feels like steps backward; be mad at WWE for putting that glass ceiling there in the first place.




This too. I've said it before, but for a field supposedly full of tough guys and tough girls, wrestlers are sensitive as fukk to criticism. I follow a lot of creatives on Twitter, and if one of them is whining about their fanbase criticizing their work, 9/10 times it's a wrestler. And listening to some of these podcasts? Bruh, I can feel the hurt secreting from my speakers.

I get it; fans can be obnoxious as hell, and I fully support clapping back when the situation calls for it. It's just that a lot of these wrestlers act like they can't stand even the mere idea that fans would have negative feedback or opinions on what they do.

This is what I can't stand. The WWE is allowed to continuously do stupid shyt because of the roster. When we call the company out on it, the guys and girls are always ready to come after us and make excuses for them, like a mom defending her shytty kids. I want to believe they agree with the criticism sometimes, but it's just easier for them to pretend that all negative feedback is irrational hatred.

I know this sounds fukked up, but part of me wants Evolution to fail so they can see that their Women's Revolution actually needs effort and it has to be shown, not told.
 
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Real shyt some of yall just need to admit yall hate women who don't fit into your ridiculous "standards" of what women's wrestling should be.

It's "hate" to ask women to string a few moves together without botching or string some sentences together without sounding like a robot? Women's matches and talk segments get praised on here a lot more than any other board I've seen..

Just from this year Sasha/Asuka, Asuka/Charlotte, Charlotte/Becky, Ruby/Sasha all received quite a bit of credit for being good matches. Ronda has been praised for her efforts. Alexa and Carmella have been praised for their character work.

If you want to treat women as equals then that means they are also going to have to deal with a lot of the same criticisms that male wrestlers face. It's not crazy to ask them to do better.
 
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