“Nobody feared LeBron. I’ve heard people say including myself that they feared Michael Jeffrey Jordan” Shaq

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You mad because I told the truth? Shaq went to the Cavs to try and get a ring riding LeBron's coattails. But Shaq was washed and got nothing done that season. By then the only basket Shaq could dominate was a basket of fries 🍟.
 

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nikka nemeses were PG and big, bad Demar Derozan :mjlol:


How the fukk was Demar Derozan a "nemesis" to Bron? You're talking a guy who went 2-12 against Bron in the playoffs and wasn't even the best player on the losing team. The fukking Mark Price Cavs were more trouble for MJ than Demar Derozan ever was.



In order, just a few of the guys Bron beat:

Jason Kidd
Vince Carter
Chauncey Billups
Rasheed Wallace
Chris Webber
Derrick Rose
Paul Pierce
Ray Allen
Kevin Garnett
Carmelo Anthony
Amare Stoudamire
Paul George
Kevin Durant
Russ Westbrook
James Harden
Jimmy Butler
Tim Duncan
Tony Parker
Manu Ginobli
Kawhi Leonard
Steph Curry
Dame Lillard
Nikola Jokic
Ja Morant


And most of those names were stacked 3-4 deep together when Bron beat them too.
 

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Jesus Christ.
What does fear matter at all?

Honestly.

How many boxers got their ass whooped by people they weren't afraid of?

How many linebackers got ran over by running backs they weren't afraid of?

How many pitchers gave up homers to hitters they weren't afraid of?

Fear doesn't mean shyt in sports.
You're productive or you're not.
 

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The claim was that that Pistons team was "3-4 years" past their best, when they were literally coming off of their best year. It made it out like they had all aged out when most of the starters were still peaking.



That 07 Pistons team no longer had Big Ben, a past his prime Rasheed, and a completely broken down Webber. They were not near as good as the team that won the title.

Sheed was still playing at an All-Star level and was better integrated into the team, Billups/Rip/Prince were all better in 2007 than they were in 2004, and they added Webber who was good enough he would have been the #2 on Bron's squad. There's a reason that team still won 59 games in 2008 and made the ECF for the 6th straight season, which was the season AFTER LeBron had beaten them and 5 more wins than they had in 2004 or 2005.

And LeBron came literally one rebound away from beating Detroit in 2006, when they still had Big Ben and were in their absolute prime winning 64 games.

Compare that to the '91 Pistons, who had an injured Isiah Thomas who would never be the same plus Laimbeer, Vinnie, and Edwards all 33+ and on the verge of retirement. Only won 50 games that year with a shell of a squad, the next year they won just 48 and were dismissed by the Knicks in the first round. Yet Jordan gets credit for beating the "Big Bad Pistons" for the first time in four tries, while Bron's defeat of an objectively better (at the moment) Pistons squad is being dismissed solely because Big Ben had been traded out for Webber.
 

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What makes the "nobody fears Bron" argument so funny is that ALL OF US have seen teams literally sell out and send 3-4 defenders at him when he drives to the rim for a last second shot...

Or

Load up an entire side of the court because he has the match-up advantage against someone on that side...

Or

Any of the times where you see defenders hug the shyt out of the shooters on LeBron's team and leave him 1-on-1 because he's quick to sling a skip pass cross-court because you sagged off too far of the shooter.

As a player, I'd be more terrified of prime LeBron because he could make his team look like the X-Men while cooking the fukk out of you his damn self.
 

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Honestly I don’t think any wing intimidates players across the league. It’s bigs that intimidate that peers. Hate him or love him, nobody wanted to go against prime Shaq. I’ve seen way too many videos of players goin at Jordan. His peers weren’t better than him but I don’t believe they were scared of him. Them pacers weren’t scared of him, those Knicks weren’t scared of him, the hornets weren’t scared of him , Thunder Dan wasn’t afraid of him. He just simply were better than them.

Wings are competitive. They want to go at each other and match up. Vernon Maxwell loved playing against Jordan. So did John starks.


The only players people were intimidated of that I noticed is Shaq and Duncan
I don’t know. The Pistons seemed to be scared of MJ. They resorted to using wwe tactics.
 
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How the fukk was Demar Derozan a "nemesis" to Bron? You're talking a guy who went 2-12 against Bron in the playoffs and wasn't even the best player on the losing team. The fukking Mark Price Cavs were more trouble for MJ than Demar Derozan ever was.
He dominated the East 9 straight years, bro :wow:
 

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The same people who believed every single word in a "documentary" that Jordan produced himself are going to deny the public words of LeBron's biggest rivals. As if those Celtics didn't break up their title squad just to trade for an extra defender to throw at Bron. As if those Warriors didn't break up their title squad so they could sign an MVP to face LeBron.

Some uninformed weirdos on this forum prefer conspiracy theories to the objective reality in front of their faces. These are the type of people who can simultaneously claim that Covid was created in order to depopulate Africa, but also Black people are immune to it and only mulattos catch Covid. :snoop:
 

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Cause Bron is a genuine nice bruh who doesn't want confrontations

That's no reason to knock him tho
Probably because he was bigger than everyone as a kid and didn't wanna be seen as bully
 
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