No Wonder M$ Are Going Multi-Plat... (Console Gamepass Subs Dried Up Ages Ago)

[winb83]

Taking about the Xbox brand specifically in the console space. Do you know what you're talking about? A quick read of your posts reveals that you usually don't.

Nadella's the guy who is going to push Xbox brand in the direction it needs to go, which is not spending R&D on home consoles.

Microsoft was about to dump Xbox and Spencer convinced Nadella to get serious about the division. You’d have to be a moron to compare what Spencer has done to what Mattrick did to the brand. Mattrick was the reason the brand was about to be dumped.

Nadella isn’t a gamer. He got Spencer in his ear to make these moves. The thing Xbox has had trouble with is producing consistent quality content but that’s not really Spencer’s job. He’s guiding the entire division with higher level decisions than that. Matt Booty runs Xbox Studios and has been for a while now.

Y’all looking at Spencer and the direction he’s guiding the division and saying he’s a shyt leader is like looking at Nadella and saying he’s the reason Surface isn’t doing shyt. Nadella is way higher up than running Surface just as Spencer isn’t managing the software studios.

 

[Mikeatris]

*2 years

Microsoft’s Xbox Game Pass service grows to 25 million subscribers

Just as Microsoft adds Activision to the Xbox Game Pass library

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That is because the took away Live and force Gamepass to the everyone who wanted to play online. Made it into an all in one. People wasn't rocking with GP like that before and I was on of them. You have to gt it regardless now to play online.

 

[Half A $]

Phil Spencer convincing Nadella to go all in on gaming is the reason Xbox still exist. He got the CEO to buy Minecraft, ZeniMax, and Activision Blizzard. He’s overseen the Xbox division to profitability. What are you even talking about?

Exactly

Don Matrick got the 360 as the #1 console in America ahead of the Wii for the last few years when he rode the Kinect train.

Don did more with less and the Xbox 1 is still outpacing Phil’s 100 billion baby.

Peter Moore with the backing Spencer has had wouldn't be a third place bytch

 

[CEO of Morgan Industries]

Microsoft was about to dump Xbox and Spencer convinced Nadella to get serious about the division. You’d have to be a moron to compare what Spencer has done to what Mattrick did to the brand. Mattrick was the reason the brand was about to be dumped.

Nadella isn’t a gamer. He got Spencer in his ear to make these moves. The thing Xbox has had trouble with is producing consistent quality content but that’s not really Spencer’s job. He’s guiding the entire division with higher level decisions than that. Matt Booty runs Xbox Studios and has been for a while now.

Y’all looking at Spencer and the direction he’s guiding the division and saying he’s a shyt leader is like looking at Nadella and saying he’s the reason Surface isn’t doing shyt. Nadella is way higher up than running Surface just as Spencer isn’t managing the software studios.

There were rumors that Nadella would dump Xbox at the time, but making the leap that Spencer single-handedly saved the division and pushed these acquisitions doesn't line up with Microsoft's long-term strategy of looking at their software assets and moving toward subscription services and away from hardware.

You'd have to be a moron to think that Spencer is the sole reason that Microsoft made these acquisitions even though they were already headed toward monetizing their gaming acquisitions and trying to be the first company into cloud gaming services so they wouldn't be needing to depend on hardware.

Spencer is still out here talking about Xbox consoles and everyone else in this company is trying to figure out how to get Xbox services in as many places as possible. Spencer's out here excitedly emailing dumb shyt before the latest console launch about how their console is more powerful than Sony's, and the leadership is in a totally different headspace.

Mattrick is garbage, but at least you can point to a time in his tenure when Xbox was running North America. Is that because of a lot of the work Peter Moore did? Yes. But at least Mattrick hit a lick with Kinect for a minute. Spencer hasn't done anything but run the Xbox console brand into the ground and then go on podcasts and mope about it. You have to get out of here with this revisionist shyt about Spencer saving Xbox and setting it up for success.

 

[ALonelyDad]

his bosses (Phil Spencer) got the tweet deleted

 

[Pressure]

No way we're doing revisionist history like mattrick didn't give us bothtbhr RROD AND POOR XBOX ONE LAUNCH.

 

[CEO of Morgan Industries]

No way we're doing revisionist history like mattrick didn't give us bothtbhr RROD AND POOR XBOX ONE LAUNCH.

We all know Mattrick was bad, dummy. The question was whether Spencer is even worse than that.

Considering that all anyone in here can say about Spencer's tenure being positive is "Microsoft acquired some other companies," I think I'm getting an answer.

 

[O³ (O cubed)]

When did the narrative change to Microsoft makes more money?

The elephant in the room is that to sell more gamepass subs, you'll need to sell more Xbox consoles.

They've invested billions and r what have they released? Starfield, Redfall, Forza and Hi-fi Rush. These games aren't system sellers.

Boasting about revenue. Is revenue a new game that I can sit down and enjoy?

 

[MrLogic]

Xbox finna die
Rest in piss stupid console

M$ must be onsite status for Black Mamba

 

[winb83]

That is because the took away Live and force Gamepass to the everyone who wanted to play online. Made it into an all in one. People wasn't rocking with GP like that before and I was on of them. You have to gt it regardless now to play online.

That just happened with Game Pass Core. It was Xbox Live Gold not that long ago.

There were rumors that Nadella would dump Xbox at the time, but making the leap that Spencer single-handedly saved the division and pushed these acquisitions doesn't line up with Microsoft's long-term strategy of looking at their software assets and moving toward subscription services and away from hardware.

You'd have to be a moron to think that Spencer is the sole reason that Microsoft made these acquisitions even though they were already headed toward monetizing their gaming acquisitions and trying to be the first company into cloud gaming services so they wouldn't be needing to depend on hardware.

Spencer is still out here talking about Xbox consoles and everyone else in this company is trying to figure out how to get Xbox services in as many places as possible. Spencer's out here excitedly emailing dumb shyt before the latest console launch about how their console is more powerful than Sony's, and the leadership is in a totally different headspace.

Mattrick is garbage, but at least you can point to a time in his tenure when Xbox was running North America. Is that because of a lot of the work Peter Moore did? Yes. But at least Mattrick hit a lick with Kinect for a minute. Spencer hasn't done anything but run the Xbox console brand into the ground and then go on podcasts and mope about it. You have to get out of here with this revisionist shyt about Spencer saving Xbox and setting it up for success.

Game Pass was Spencer. PC as an equal platform with day one releases was Spencer.

Nadella is not a gamer and wasn’t into video games. If he decides to move on from Xbox nobody would have stopped him. Hell the shareholders would have welcomed it.

You look at the moves made and say oh that’s obvious now but those were dark times and Xbox was most certainly on the chopping block. Spencer convinced Nadella it was worth saving.

He gets credit for that.

 

[Rekkapryde]

That just happened with Game Pass Core. It was Xbox Live Gold not that long ago.

Game Pass was Spencer. PC as an equal platform with day one releases was Spencer.

Nadella is not a gamer and wasn’t into video games. If he decides to move on from Xbox nobody would have stopped him. Hell the shareholders would have welcomed it.

You look at the moves made and say oh that’s obvious now but those were dark times and Xbox was most certainly on the chopping block. Spencer convinced Nadella it was worth saving.

He gets credit for that.

The inevitable is looming though. Subs stagnant, console tracking worse than the XB1.

We know what's next.

 

[winb83]

The inevitable is looming though. Subs stagnant, console tracking worse than the XB1.

We know what's next.

It is very difficult to even effectively combat an overwhelming market leader in a given space. Ask a company like Google how easy it was to knock off Facebook in social media.

Their path isn’t easy but truthfully they’re looking past consoles anyway. They have to because not only is Sony dominating it but the home console market really isn’t growing much.

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[Rekkapryde]

It is very difficult to even effectively combat an overwhelming market leader in a given space. Ask a company like Google how easy it was to knock off Facebook in social media.

Their path isn’t easy but truthfully they’re looking past consoles anyway. They have to because not only is Sony dominating it but the home console market really isn’t growing much.

50 Years of Video Game Industry Revenues, by Platform

As technology has evolved, so too has the video game industry, consumer preferences, and drivers of growth. We do a deep dive.

www.visualcapitalist.com

The only reason they are unable to combat is they ignored what drives console sales for over a decade (exclusive games you can't get anywhere else). Their leadership blew that.

And it's too far out of reach at this point. Again, their own fault.

They're going 3rd party sooner than later. Really ironic that they are buddying up with Sega who knows what it's like having poor leadership and vision destroying their console business and forcing them into 3rd party.

 

[Trapperman Dave]

Y’all gonna mad as hell when Dave Chappelle signs a 50 million deal on gamepsss.

They could get steve and ced for 1/5 of the price

 

[winb83]

The only reason they are unable to combat is they ignored what drives console sales for over a decade (exclusive games you can't get anywhere else). Their leadership blew that.

And it's too far out of reach at this point. Again, their own fault.

They're going 3rd party sooner than later. Really ironic that they are buddying up with Sega who knows what it's like having poor leadership and vision destroying their console business and forcing them into 3rd party.

The Xbox One is why they failed. The leadership in place now wasn’t who guided that direction of the company at that time. From the company CEO on down they’re different now.

The market wants one thing. They don’t want to have to pick and chose. The market wants one streaming service like Netflix used to be that has everything. They don’t want to have to sub to 10 services to get it all.

Even Nintendo with their quality software could never compare to what Sony became after the N64 cartridge debacle. It wasn’t until they stopped trying to compete with Sony at all and went their own way that they found success again. Nintendo used to be the defacto choice for mainstream console gaming. They aren’t that and will likely never be that again.

Unless Sony fukks up what you’re talking about is virtually impossible. Customers aren’t going to abandon the market leader for a similar product unless given a reason by that leader to leave.