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If they come out and start saying the visitors are most likely violent, then you know they're lying. Bc they could have destroyed us already if they wanted.

There's a reason they seem to hover around military base areas.

But I've also heard that we have technology that looks like theirs, such as the tic tac thing. Bc we've tried to copy them.

This "whistle blower" has permission to discuss everything he said on tv and certain things he could not discuss. He said that. Therefore, he's probably not to be trusted IMO.

If they disclose something to us, then there's a million other things they aren't telling us.
He didn’t say they were violent, he said there have been instances of violence

Most likely because of humans. They have a shoot first and ask questions later approach when it comes to anything we don’t understand

He also says or insinuates that there are more than one species.

Like you said, they would’ve been wiped us out if they were all malevolent but there are probably rules involved. He never said they were all malevolent he just said there have been instances of conflict basically. Thats like saying all humans are malevolent

Also, he’s not saying things because he’s trying to go about it the LEGAL way. We definitely don’t have the clearances to hear everything until it becomes declassified. He’s trying not to give them a reason to put him in jail. Everyone they’ve talked to vouched for his credentials, credibility, and him as a person. Too many people backing him for him to be lying
 
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According to him and others the defense contractors have been re-selling the US government whatever tech they could get from these crafts

So if the reports are to be believed, the military/govt is in bed with certain contractors and gives them these crafts to overview then buys whatever new tech they could extract from it for probably billions/trillions
It’s also believed that the government has given these contracting companies information and objects that will be protected so they can legitimately say “we do not have these things”.
 

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Unfortunetly you might be right... I think the reason why we even got those military videos was that it was leaked right? Feel like that may be the way the other ones need to come out too is by leaking them
That seems to be why he did it the legal and “right” way to give government officials, military officers, and contractors the confidence to use the Whistleblower program and come out with more evidence.

Instead of “leaking it” then spending the rest of their lives on the run or looking over there shoulders.
 

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Somebody is going to have to Eric Snowden the ufo stuff, that’s the only way we’ll ever truly get details.

The only thing that makes this guy different from all the others is he’s the highest ranking individual to make these claims if I’m not mistaken. It is bizzare that he is putting his name/reputation on the line like this
 

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It’s also believed that the government has given these contracting companies information and objects that will be protected so they can legitimately say “we do not have these things”.
Which makes sense. I would be curious which aerospace company he did mention to Congress tho

That seems to be why he did it the legal and “right” way to give government officials, military officers, and contractors the confidence to use the Whistleblower program and come out with more evidence.

Instead of “leaking it” then spending the rest of their lives on the run or looking over there shoulders.
I mean myself personally I wouldn't go the "Snowden" route if I had this information, so I can't really blame these guys who aren't putting this information out illegally then going on the run (if this is to be believed)

I am curious if the people who had direct access and came forward in the IC IG complaint are going to publicly come out. It would take a lot for me to attach my real name and face to this issue if I were them
 

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What I really get from all this is things started picking up once we had nukes.

Whether some of the species are malevolent or benevolent, they probably don’t want to see us destroying the planet in that way (which is why there’s been evidence of the shutting off our nukes or hanging around nuclear facilities).

Our planet is probably one of the more unique ones out there with many hosts of life. So they probably staying lowkey because of any signs of something we don’t understand or any aggression, we’ll probably go kamikaze and start nuking everything.
 

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Which makes sense. I would be curious which aerospace company he did mention to Congress tho


I mean myself personally I wouldn't go the "Snowden" route if I had this information, so I can't really blame these guys who aren't putting this information out illegally then going on the run (if this is to be believed)

I am curious if the people who had direct access and came forward in the IC IG complaint are going to publicly come out. It would take a lot for me to attach my real name and face to this issue if I were them
Right

Remember, members of congress do have clearances just not the ones higher than his. So he probably can show them these things but not us yet if he’s doing it the legal way.

His point is, they need to either declassify things or bring members of congress up to the level where they can view these things. Even if they have the classifications needed to view this stuff, the military still acts on a “need to know” basis.

His stance is that not just congress, but people need to know. Not just a select few that are operating outside of any oversight.
 
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What I really get from all this is things started picking up once we had nukes.

Whether some of the species are malevolent or benevolent, they probably don’t want to see us destroying the planet in that way (which is why there’s been evidence of the shutting off our nukes or hanging around nuclear facilities).

Our planet is probably one of the more unique ones out there with many hosts of life. So they probably staying lowkey because of any signs of something we don’t understand or any aggression, we’ll probably go kamikaze and start nuking everything.

Maybe they don't want the earth destroyed because they need it as much as we do.
 

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Maybe they don't want the earth destroyed because they need it as much as we do.
If they needed it they would’ve taken it a long time ago, even before nukes

From what I now understand, there are different races. Seems to me like some are just explorers on some expeditions to understand or observe things and some are not.

But there have been rumors of conflict between us and some of them.
 
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A thought. How about Grusch agrees to go through a paneled lie detector/ truth serum test?

As well as full psychological exam for personality disorder or mental illness.

That would offer some objective evidence and shut a lot of people up.
 

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A thought. How about Grusch agrees to go through a paneled lie detector/ truth serum test?

As well as full psychological exam for personality disorder or mental illness.

That would offer some objective evidence and shut a lot of people up.
To have the clearance he has he already did polygraph tests.. probably multiple

But they could do that. Still wouldn’t discredit the people backing his statements or coming forward as well.
 

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It’s as simple as this. Who is willing to compromise their financial security and safety in order to disclose. Folks sign NDAs and receive different caveats to their clearance levels.


So no one ever leaves the program? No one quits, no one retires?
 

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To have the clearance he has he already did polygraph tests.. probably multiple

But they could do that. Still wouldn’t discredit the people backing his statements or coming forward as well.
I really don't see what a lie detector does, as he isn't the only one making these claims. He's just the only one who has attached his name publicly to it. That Jonathan Grey NASIC intel guy, and the Colonel Nell also did in the article but as we know a dozen others are attached to the IC IG complaint

Not sure what a lie detector does if he provided information/documents, then had his information corroborated in the complaint
 
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