No one was more dominant than Peak Shaq

[2legit]

Yeah Portland often doubled Shaq when he got the ball, but what the fukk does that have to do with anything? No one said "They never doubled Shaq". EVERY dominant star gets doubled when possible, especially the ones who need to be within 5 feet of the hoop to do anything. But in that era they didn't even allow zones yet and in 99-00 the Lakers were loaded with shooters (Kobe, Glen Rice, Horry, Fisher, Shaw, and Fox), so Portland couldn't cheat on the zones to the degree that teams do now.

Loaded with Shooters? Get out of here with that shyt. The Lakers were 25th in 3 Point % at 32.9%. That's not a good shooting team.

Look at the starting lineup:

Shaq
Kobe, 21, 0.7 3PM per game, 31.9 3P%
Ron Harper, 36, 0.4 3PM, 31.1 3P%
Glen Rice, 32, 1.1 3PM, 36.7 3P%
AC Green, 36, 0.0 3PM, 25.0 3P%

That's not a good shooting team at all. His whole cast was old with just 1 decent shooter, Glen Rice. What about the bench players you mentioned?

Horry 0.4 3PM, 30.9 3P%
Fisher 0.7 3PM, 31.3 3P%
Fox 0.7 3PM, 32.6 3P%
Shaw 0.2 3PM, 31.0 3P%

Only player on the team even averaged more than 1 3 pointer made per game. Only one player shot better than 33% from 3 Point.

It's easy to see why the Blazers were able to Double and Triple Team Shaq because they could leave Old ass Ron Harper and AC Green alone.

 

[CHICAGO]

First off I watched every minute of every game of that series, dumbass. That was the height of my Portland fandom. But you were, what, going through puberty at the time? What the fukk do you remember?

Like you claiming that Portland was regularly doubling Shaq off-ball when that was completely illegal in 2000.


Yeah Portland often doubled Shaq when he got the ball, but what the fukk does that have to do with anything? No one said "They never doubled Shaq". EVERY dominant star gets doubled when possible, especially the ones who need to be within 5 feet of the hoop to do anything. But in that era they didn't even allow zones yet and in 99-00 the Lakers were loaded with shooters (Kobe, Glen Rice, Horry, Fisher, Shaw, and Fox), so Portland couldn't cheat on the zones to the degree that teams do now.

You did a whole lot of talking to juelz out of the most dominant player at his peak only scoring 18 points and needing the ref to bail him out of an elimination game.

Loaded with Shooters? Get out of here with that shyt. The Lakers were 25th in 3 Point % at 32.9%. That's not a good shooting team.

Look at the starting lineup:

Shaq
Kobe, 21, 0.7 3PM per game, 31.9 3P%
Ron Harper, 36, 0.4 3PM, 31.1 3P%
Glen Rice, 32, 1.1 3PM, 36.7 3P%
AC Green, 36, 0.0 3PM, 25.0 3P%

That's not a good shooting team at all. His whole cast was old with just 1 decent shooter, Glen Rice. What about the bench players you mentioned?

Horry 0.4 3PM, 30.9 3P%
Fisher 0.7 3PM, 31.3 3P%
Fox 0.7 3PM, 32.6 3P%
Shaw 0.2 3PM, 31.0 3P%

Only player on the team even averaged more than 1 3 pointer made per game. Only one player shot better than 33% from 3 Point.

It's easy to see why the Blazers were able to Double and Triple Team Shaq because they could leave Old ass Ron Harper and AC Green alone.

HERES GAME 7 RIGHT HERE....

LOOK AT HOW PORTLAND
IS GUARDING SHAQ OFF
THE BALL.




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[2legit]

HERES GAME 7 RIGHT HERE....

LOOK AT HOW PORTLAND
IS GUARDING SHAQ OFF
THE BALL.




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I hate the revisionist history on this. Everyone at the time knew that Portland was going to go all out vs. Shaq after he cooked them for 6 games. They were determined to let anyone but Shaq beat them. Shaq was doubled on every single possession he touched the ball. Many times he was triple teamed. Rasheed and Pippen had their eyes glued on Shaq for the whole game. The second the ball was thrown to Shaq they were bee-lining to the post.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Loaded with Shooters? Get out of here with that shyt. The Lakers were 25th in 3 Point % at 32.9%. That's not a good shooting team.

Look at the starting lineup:

Shaq
Kobe, 21, 0.7 3PM per game, 31.9 3P%
Ron Harper, 36, 0.4 3PM, 31.1 3P%
Glen Rice, 32, 1.1 3PM, 36.7 3P%
AC Green, 36, 0.0 3PM, 25.0 3P%

That's not a good shooting team at all. His whole cast was old with just 1 decent shooter, Glen Rice. What about the bench players you mentioned?

Horry 0.4 3PM, 30.9 3P%
Fisher 0.7 3PM, 31.3 3P%
Fox 0.7 3PM, 32.6 3P%
Shaw 0.2 3PM, 31.0 3P%

Only player on the team even averaged more than 1 3 pointer made per game. Only one player shot better than 33% from 3 Point.

It's easy to see why the Blazers were able to Double and Triple Team Shaq because they could leave Old ass Ron Harper and AC Green alone.

Breh, during the postseason that year:

Fox shot 46.2% from 3pt
Rice shot 41.8% from 3pt
Fisher shot 41.4% from 3pt
Kobe shot 34.4% from 3pt
Shaw shot 33.3% from 3pt

AC Green wasn't a 3pt threat but he shot mostly midrange and was 48% from 16-23 in 2000. In fact, during the 2000 postseason Kobe, Rice, Horry, Fisher, Shaw, and Harper ALL shot 44% or better from 16-23, which is fukking elite.


But according to you, all of those guys were non-shooters.

I guess '98 MJ couldn't shoot either, since he averaged 23.8% from 3pt and apparently that's all that counts?



And AC Green played just 16 minutes/game that series, some of which was when Shaq sat, gtfo talking like he was next to Shaq all game. The main lineup was Shaq, Kobe, Harper, Rice, and Horry, and they had Fisher/Fox/Shaw getting as many minutes as Green did.



How is it that the same people who call us stat nerds and claim, " YoU dOn'T wAtCh ThE gAmEs" then make the dumbest arguments that clearly have nothing to do with the games?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I hate the revisionist history on this. Everyone at the time knew that Portland was going to go all out vs. Shaq after he cooked them for 6 games. They were determined to let anyone but Shaq beat them. Shaq was doubled on every single possession he touched the ball. Many times he was triple teamed. Rasheed and Pippen had their eyes glued on Shaq for the whole game. The second the ball was thrown to Shaq they were bee-lining to the post.

After he cooked them for 6 games? Really?

Shaq had just 17 points on 7-17 shooting in their Game 6 loss. And 21 points on 8-22 shooting in their Game 3 loss. In fact, after a big Game 1 he averaged just 23ppg the rest of the series.

Yeah Shaq was doubled, ALL great inside scorers get doubled or worse when they get in ball inside. Same gravity you see on Hakeem and Wilt posts or Bron and MJ drives. As the "Most Dominant Player Of All Time At His Absolute Peak", he shouldn't be so easy to neutralize.