No More Accountants! The 2014-2015 New York Jets Off-season Thread

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I thought jets fans would find this interesting

"I was somewhat surprised to see the Jets ranked so high. Admittedly, I didn’t follow the NFL very closely back then (meaning, I wasn’t looking at stats, etc.), but also, I don’t recall ever seeing their name come up in any GOAT lists.3 In any event, by this metric, they are the third best (regular season) defense since the merger, in the same company as the 1970 Vikings, the 2002 Bucs and the 1985 Bears. If this is common knowledge to the readers of this site – that the 2009 Jets are in the discussion as one of the greatest (again, regular season) defenses of all time – then my apologies, but I felt that they deserve a closer look:

  • For starters, any discussion of points allowed has to take into account the 49 special teams/defensive points the Jets gave up in 2009. That’s a lot of points – it’s tied for 15th place among 1105 teams since the league went to a 16-game format in 1978. After stripping those away, we see their actual defense only allowed 11.7 PPG (187 total), which is ranked 22nd since the merger. After era adjustment, they jump 12 spots to 10th (8.2 Def PA/G OvAvg). So without any SOS adjustment, this defense is Top 10 since the merger – just under the mythical 1985 Bears and ahead of the (recently mythical) Legion of Boom 2013 Seahawks.4
  • After adjusting every team for strength of opponent, the Jets land at #3 (just edging out the ’85 Bears at #4). This gives them a SOS of +0.9, which isn’t a whole lot,5 but it is pretty good for the Top 10 – only the 1977 Broncos had a tougher schedule (a lot tougher, +2.5). What really puts them up there though, are the other teams with easy schedules dropping: the 2000 Ravens and the 1975 Rams both drop to 13 and 16 respectively.
  • Moving off of this post’s specific metric, but still related, are shutouts. The Jets had two shutouts, but not against good offenses – Oakland and Cincinnati – and this really isn’t a big deal anyway since 58 other defenses have done this since the merger (the NFL record is the 1976 Steelers with 5). But a shutout means not allowing a team to score ANY points, including those pesky “non-offense” points.6 What if we just looked at passing and rushing touchdowns allowed? The Jets do pretty well here: in 6 games the Jets defense did not allow a single rushing or passing touchdown. That’s tied for third in the league since the merger (9 other teams have done it), only 4 other teams have more than 6 “offensive touchdown shutout” games: the 1976 Steelers with 8,7 and the ’70 Vikings, ’72 Steelers and ’91 Saints each with 7."
Data Dump: Defensive Points Allowed SRS

So basically the 2009 jets were one of the best defensive teams of all time who get underrated because they got shredded by Peyton in the afc championship game
 
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Street Knowledge said:
I thought jets fans would find this interesting

"I was somewhat surprised to see the Jets ranked so high. Admittedly, I didn’t follow the NFL very closely back then (meaning, I wasn’t looking at stats, etc.), but also, I don’t recall ever seeing their name come up in any GOAT lists.3 In any event, by this metric, they are the third best (regular season) defense since the merger, in the same company as the 1970 Vikings, the 2002 Bucs and the 1985 Bears. If this is common knowledge to the readers of this site – that the 2009 Jets are in the discussion as one of the greatest (again, regular season) defenses of all time – then my apologies, but I felt that they deserve a closer look:

  • For starters, any discussion of points allowed has to take into account the 49 special teams/defensive points the Jets gave up in 2009. That’s a lot of points – it’s tied for 15th place among 1105 teams since the league went to a 16-game format in 1978. After stripping those away, we see their actual defense only allowed 11.7 PPG (187 total), which is ranked 22nd since the merger. After era adjustment, they jump 12 spots to 10th (8.2 Def PA/G OvAvg). So without any SOS adjustment, this defense is Top 10 since the merger – just under the mythical 1985 Bears and ahead of the (recently mythical) Legion of Boom 2013 Seahawks.4
  • After adjusting every team for strength of opponent, the Jets land at #3 (just edging out the ’85 Bears at #4). This gives them a SOS of +0.9, which isn’t a whole lot,5 but it is pretty good for the Top 10 – only the 1977 Broncos had a tougher schedule (a lot tougher, +2.5). What really puts them up there though, are the other teams with easy schedules dropping: the 2000 Ravens and the 1975 Rams both drop to 13 and 16 respectively.
  • Moving off of this post’s specific metric, but still related, are shutouts. The Jets had two shutouts, but not against good offenses – Oakland and Cincinnati – and this really isn’t a big deal anyway since 58 other defenses have done this since the merger (the NFL record is the 1976 Steelers with 5). But a shutout means not allowing a team to score ANY points, including those pesky “non-offense” points.6 What if we just looked at passing and rushing touchdowns allowed? The Jets do pretty well here: in 6 games the Jets defense did not allow a single rushing or passing touchdown. That’s tied for third in the league since the merger (9 other teams have done it), only 4 other teams have more than 6 “offensive touchdown shutout” games: the 1976 Steelers with 8,7 and the ’70 Vikings, ’72 Steelers and ’91 Saints each with 7."
Data Dump: Defensive Points Allowed SRS

So basically the 2009 jets were one of the best defensive teams of all time who get underrated because they got shredded by Peyton in the afc championship game
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That defense was unbelievable. The problem was it was paired with Sanchez who couldnt get out of his own way. Revis 09 was one of the best individual seasons in NFL history.
 
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That 2009 defense was something else. Honestly though, I think we have the POTENTIAL to top it this year. Our D line is monstrous, our linebacking corp is serviceable to good, our safeties are ehhh, but if Pryor can get it together they'll be solid at worst. And our corners? Revis is still the best in the game and we have a nice crop growing. We can legit be monstrous, if not this year, then next.
 
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Jughead said:
That 2009 defense was something else. Honestly though, I think we have the POTENTIAL to top it this year. Our D line is monstrous, our linebacking corp is serviceable to good, our safeties are ehhh, but if Pryor can get it together they'll be solid at worst. And our corners? Revis is still the best in the game and we have a nice crop growing. We can legit be monstrous, if not this year, then next.
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Don't agree about our LB core. They are fukk boys in pass coverage. Demario Davis is overrated as fukk
 
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Trip said:
Matt Flynn

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Wasn't really anyone else out there. :manny:
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He didn't improve. He made tons of shytty mistakes
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Tackles and sacks were up from last year. I don't know, man. I'm holding out hope that even if he isn't great, he's good. I'm counting on the coaching staff to out him in the best position.
 
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