No Limit Records Stories

[Wacky D]

No Limit was not catching bullets for being at the frontlines of The South. They were catching bullets because a lot of people mis judged the music based off the singles, videos, and overall image.

Missy definitely wasn't viewed in the same vein as D4L and the group that made "Stanky Leg". You reaching hard with that one. For one, neither group had a cultural footing being that neither had more than one hit song. Number two, nobody respected wanted to do a song with them. Meanwhile, everybody from MC Lyte to Jay Z had Missy rapping on their songs. Number three, Missy has artists remaking and sampling her records.

Missy didn't have one of the biggest flops of '99. Again, you can't say Missy flopped and in the same breath not acknowledge these:

Master P- Only God Can Judge Me (went from 4X platinum in '98 to Gold in '99 and advertised this album as "the biggest Hip Hop Album ever")

Mase- Double Up (multi-platinum to Gold)

Puff Daddy- Forever (7X Platinum to platinum)

Juvenile- G Code (multi platinum in less than a year before to barely platinum)

^^^ you're smoking rocks to call Missy's album one of the biggest flops of 1999. She still went platinum selling around the same amount of copies as her debut.

yes they were catching bullets for being on the frontline. you wouldn't know because you were down south.

sorry to break it to you, but missy eliiot is vile garbage rap. shes an r&b legend tho.

why are you bringing all these other people up? we're not talking about them. we're talking about missy's album.

and FYI, juvenile's g-code went double platinum, and got the same amount of promotion as Wayne's album, which sold half of what g-code sold. that's nowhere near a flop. not to mention, 400 degreez was still moving units thru most of g-code's run.

 

[JustCKing]

yes they were catching bullets for being on the frontline. you wouldn't know because you were down south.

sorry to break it to you, but missy eliiot is vile garbage rap. shes an r&b legend tho.

why are you bringing all these other people up? we're not talking about them. we're talking about missy's album.

and FYI, juvenile's g-code went double platinum, and got the same amount of promotion as Wayne's album, which sold half of what g-code sold. that's nowhere near a flop. not to mention, 400 degreez was still moving units thru most of g-code's run.

No Limit was not on no frontline. They were huge, but they weren't taking hits for being on the fontlines of anything. They took hits for the same reasons much of anything is popular: people hear singles and make an uneducated judgement leading people to think that is all they had to offer. In regard to No Limit, it was anthemic call and response music without lyricism or substance. No Limit had both, but critics deemed the whole label as sich largely because of "Make Em Say Uggh".

Missy being vile garbage rap is an opinion. The fact is Missy is still considered a legendary rapper and overall Hip Hop artist regardless of gow you or I feel about her.

You said Missy's album was one of the biggest flops of '99, I proved her album wasn't.

G Code did not go 2X Platinum. According to the RIAA who certifies albums, it only went platinum, which is a fraction of what he sold with 400 Degreez. That is a flop. And just to put that into perspective X dropped two multi platinum albums in the same calendar year. Matter of fact, X had three multi platinum albums in less than 18 months. Nas had a platinum and a double platinum album within the same calendar year.

 

[OHSNAP!]

yes they were catching bullets for being on the frontline. you wouldn't know because you were down south.

sorry to break it to you, but missy eliiot is vile garbage rap. shes an r&b legend tho.

why are you bringing all these other people up? we're not talking about them. we're talking about missy's album.

and FYI, juvenile's g-code went double platinum, and got the same amount of promotion as Wayne's album, which sold half of what g-code sold. that's nowhere near a flop. not to mention, 400 degreez was still moving units thru most of g-code's run.

You wrong on alot of points tho. G Code only went plat (yeah 400D still sold like hotcakes when it came out, but from 4x to 1x plat is a hard fall no matter how u spin it)

Missy was a big name worldwide, whether u consider that rap or R&B who gives a shyt. She was a household name via hits, features, marketable product

Meanwhile, P tried to get more mainstream via less gangstafied singles (Silkk's singles in 99, Tru Homies, Da Ballers etc), but NL was gangsta/hood music thru n thru, most fans rejected the pop hit crossovers (Somebody Like Me)

NL was never really on top like that, they weren't mainstream at any point, just P and Snoop were. They were nr 1 in the hood tho for almost two years

 

[Xerces]

Thought Silkk ripped this junk right here

 

[Xerces]

You wrong on alot of points tho. G Code only went plat (yeah 400D still sold like hotcakes when it came out, but from 4x to 1x plat is a hard fall no matter how u spin it)

Missy was a big name worldwide, whether u consider that rap or R&B who gives a shyt. She was a household name via hits, features, marketable product

Meanwhile, P tried to get more mainstream via less gangstafied singles (Silkk's singles in 99, Tru Homies, Da Ballers etc), but NL was gangsta/hood music thru n thru, most fans rejected the pop hit crossovers (Somebody Like Me)

NL was never really on top like that, they weren't mainstream at any point, just P and Snoop were. They were nr 1 in the hood tho for almost two years

I liked somebody like me

 

[Wacky D]

No Limit was not on no frontline. They were huge, but they weren't taking hits for being on the fontlines of anything.

again, you don't know what youre talking about.

and youre doing that thing you do, where you just repeat the same bullchit.

Missy being vile garbage rap is an opinion. The fact is Missy is still considered a legendary rapper and overall Hip Hop artist regardless of gow you or I feel about her.

You said Missy's album was one of the biggest flops of '99, I proved her album wasn't.

G Code did not go 2X Platinum. According to the RIAA who certifies albums, it only went platinum, which is a fraction of what he sold with 400 Degreez. That is a flop. And just to put that into perspective X dropped two multi platinum albums in the same calendar year. Matter of fact, X had three multi platinum albums in less than 18 months. Nas had a platinum and a double platinum album within the same calendar year.

missy being vile rap garbage is a COMMON OPINION.
missy's album was considered one of the biggest flops in '99, even by the TV stations that you swear by. the hot boys single that came out afterwards in 2000, saved the album. but in '99, it was considered a flop.

we're talking about g-code. not DMX or Nas. they had their own situations that set the mark for what they sold or should've sold. yall gotta stop with this A&B way of thinking.
and by the A&B logic that yall are applying, Nastradamus flopped, seeing how it sold half of what "I Am" sold, along with the fact that it was a critical disaster.

You wrong on alot of points tho.

Missy was a big name worldwide, whether u consider that rap or R&B who gives a shyt. She was a household name via hits, features, marketable product

Meanwhile, P tried to get more mainstream via less gangstafied singles (Silkk's singles in 99, Tru Homies, Da Ballers etc), but NL was gangsta/hood music thru n thru, most fans rejected the pop hit crossovers (Somebody Like Me)

NL was never really on top like that, they weren't mainstream at any point, just P and Snoop were. They were nr 1 in the hood tho for almost two years

wrong about what?

what does any of this have to do with what me and @JustCKing were arguing about??

G Code only went plat (yeah 400D still sold like hotcakes when it came out, but from 4x to 1x plat is a hard fall no matter how u spin it)

everything ive seen about its sales, always said double-platinum. maybe it just shipped double, but didn't crack that mark in sales. I don't know.

either way, that's not a flop. it did what it was supposed to do.

a flop is when you come up short of your expectations by a noticeable margin. 1 mil, maybe 2 mil off the name was all it was really projected to do.

 

[JustCKing]

again, you don't know what youre talking about.

and youre doing that thing you do, where you just repeat the same bullchit.





missy being vile rap garbage is a COMMON OPINION.
missy's album was considered one of the biggest flops in '99, even by the TV stations that you swear by. the hot boys single that came out afterwards in 2000, saved the album. but in '99, it was considered a flop.

we're talking about g-code. not DMX or Nas. they had their own situations that set the mark for what they sold or should've sold. yall gotta stop with this A&B way of thinking.
and by the A&B logic that yall are applying, Nastradamus flopped, seeing how it sold half of what "I Am" sold, along with the fact that it was a critical disaster.







wrong about what?

what does any of this have to do with what me and @JustCKing were arguing about??







everything ive seen about its sales, always said double-platinum. maybe it just shipped double, but didn't crack that mark in sales. I don't know.

either way, that's not a flop. it did what it was supposed to do.

a flop is when you come up short of your expectations by a noticeable margin. 1 mil, maybe 2 mil off the name was all it was really projected to do.

You are wrong on several accounts. Missy being vile garbage rap is still an opinion no matter how you try to spin it. It does not change the FACT that Missy is still regarded as a legend in rap or that she was one of the more popular artists during No Limit's run (which was the initial argument and TWO other posters brought this up before you started arguing with me about it).

Prove that Missy's album was a flop when she was selling the same amount her debut sold. Meanwhile, G Code is doing a fraction of 400 Degreez. And nobody is projecting an artist who just went 3X platinum to sell 1 million in less than a year. You can't sit here and defend G Code and call Da Real World a flop. Missy was still a platinum rapper. Juve went from multi platinum to platinum.

Furthermore, if you don't know the difference between Soundscan and a platinum certification, you shouldn't even be arguing in the first place.

Now you're asking people to stop using logic? What kind of nonsens is that?

 

[Wacky D]

You are wrong on several accounts. Missy being vile garbage rap is still an opinion no matter how you try to spin it. It does not change the FACT that Missy is still regarded as a legend in rap or that she was one of the more popular artists during No Limit's run (which was the initial argument and TWO other posters brought this up before you started arguing with me about it).

Prove that Missy's album was a flop when she was selling the same amount her debut sold. Meanwhile, G Code is doing a fraction of 400 Degreez. And nobody is projecting an artist who just went 3X platinum to sell 1 million in less than a year. You can't sit here and defend G Code and call Da Real World a flop. Missy was still a platinum rapper. Juve went from multi platinum to platinum.

Furthermore, if you don't know the difference between Soundscan and a platinum certification, you shouldn't even be arguing in the first place.

Now you're asking people to stop using logic? What kind of nonsens is that?

breh. im not sitting here arguing about no missy f*ckin Elliot. only dorks look at her as a rap legend. i'll just leave it at that.
and regarding her sales on the 2nd album, I see that youre once again conveniently leaving out the main point I made about her album flopping. just like you did with ole bul that said the same exact thing in that other thread. youre full of chit.

I see that you don't know what the term "A&B Thinker" means. that's not good logic breh.

g-code wasn't designed to sell what 400 degreez was selling. for starters, they threw the album out there while 400 degreez was still selling, and "back that thang up" was all over TRL. I bet the TRL crowd had no clue that the g-code even existed. they didn't promote the album that well period. they were giving more hype to lil Wayne's album actually, and it almost doubled Wayne's sales. you cant just look at the results on paper and make a bold conclusion. you have to put some perspective into your thought process. otherwise, youre just an A&B thinker. you cant just say.

again, I CLEARLY STATED THAT MISSY'S ALBUM WAS CONSIDERED A FLOP IN 1999. she saved the album in 2000 when she dropped "hot boys", which coincidentally, wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for juvenile & them. LOL.

 

[JustCKing]

breh. im not sitting here arguing about no missy f*ckin Elliot. only dorks look at her as a rap legend. i'll just leave it at that.
and regarding her sales on the 2nd album, I see that youre once again conveniently leaving out the main point I made about her album flopping. just like you did with ole bul that said the same exact thing in that other thread. youre full of chit.

I see that you don't know what the term "A&B Thinker" means. that's not good logic breh.

g-code wasn't designed to sell what 400 degreez was selling. for starters, they threw the album out there while 400 degreez was still selling, and "back that thang up" was all over TRL. I bet the TRL crowd had no clue that the g-code even existed. they didn't promote the album that well period. they were giving more hype to lil Wayne's album actually, and it almost doubled Wayne's sales. you cant just look at the results on paper and make a bold conclusion. you have to put some perspective into your thought process. otherwise, youre just an A&B thinker. you cant just say.

again, I CLEARLY STATED THAT MISSY'S ALBUM WAS CONSIDERED A FLOP IN 1999. she saved the album in 2000 when she dropped "hot boys", which coincidentally, wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for juvenile & them. LOL.

You had no point about her album flopping because it didn't flop. Explain how selling the same amount of copies as the previous album is a flop.

Who said G Code was designed to sell what 400 Degreez sold? That isn't the point. The point is that it sold nowhere near what the previous album sold. It didn't even sell half of what it sold. It sold 1/4 of what the previous album sold. That is equivalent of an artist dropping two albums in one year with one selling 1 million and the other selling 250K. That's a flop.

And again, you offered no proof of how Missy flopped in '99 other than your own opinion.

Hot Boyz/Hot Girls are terms that existed before CMR blew word to Master P having a song with the Hot Boys/Girls title the summer before CMR took off. Missy's song had nothing to do with CMR. In fact, she could've tacked Wayne, Turk, B.G., and Juve on the remix instead of Nas, Eve, and Q Tip to capitalize on their popularity. B.G. and Juve were on the B side, which was an album cut from the same album. And "Hot Boyz" remix didn't save the album. The remix isn't even on the album and it even had its own CD single. People didn't have to buy the album to getthe remix or the song with Juve and B.G.

 

[Wacky D]

You had no point about her album flopping because it didn't flop. Explain how selling the same amount of copies as the previous album is a flop.

do you even read the opposition's post when youre debating or are you really this slow?

I stopped reading right there.

get away from me.

 

[Alvin]

You wrong on alot of points tho. G Code only went plat (yeah 400D still sold like hotcakes when it came out, but from 4x to 1x plat is a hard fall no matter how u spin it)

Missy was a big name worldwide, whether u consider that rap or R&B who gives a shyt. She was a household name via hits, features, marketable product

Meanwhile, P tried to get more mainstream via less gangstafied singles (Silkk's singles in 99, Tru Homies, Da Ballers etc), but NL was gangsta/hood music thru n thru, most fans rejected the pop hit crossovers (Somebody Like Me)

NL was never really on top like that, they weren't mainstream at any point, just P and Snoop were. They were nr 1 in the hood tho for almost two years

silk was too in my personal opinion, among women

 

[Alvin]

@OHSNAP! @M.DOT better compilation, mean green or we can't be stopped?

 

[Alvin]

youre wylin smh
solja rags was a great album.

who's the mf, im the mf, huh!

 

[Alvin]

@M.DOT @OHSNAP! who are some artists that wanted to be signed to the tank or people p wanted to bring to nl?

 

[No Hook]

@OHSNAP! @M.DOT better compilation, mean green or we can't be stopped?

Major Players by far. shyt it might be a low key classic on some real shyt and part of that is because of the guest appearances from rappers outside the camp. Which one do you prefer?

@M.DOT @OHSNAP! who are some artists that wanted to be signed to the tank or people p wanted to bring to nl?

Master P said he wanted to sign Eminem at one point