Especially when Romeo said he can't believe he sells more records than Michael Jackson so I was like
At the age of 10... It's a true lie.. Because Michael Jackson didn't have a record at 10..
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At the age of 10... It's a true lie.. Because Michael Jackson didn't have a record at 10..
He is, but it is downplayed. A lot of the credit that is attributed to Jay Z in terms of business, Master P actually pioneered and did first and he was arguably more successful at it. Jay Z spent years trying to make Memphis Bleek his successor. P had Silkk. Jay Z had Roc-A-Fella, but besides Jay himself only Kanye was super successful. Meanwhile, P had Silkk, Mystikal and then the acquisition of Snoop. Jay Z has Roc Nation, P had No Limit Sports. The only area where Jay did it bigger than P is clothing.
As crazy as it sounds now, both P and Jay Z were distributed by Priority in 1996. P stayed with Priority and was super successful where Jay moved on to Def Jam, which is where he blew up.
I respect both, but given where they started at, I respect P more. Breh put his brothers in the game and even put his son on and his other children in. He had his cousins on as well. He had his own wife out here with an album. P had his own in house production and built an empire without relying on super producers.
Especially when Romeo said he can't believe he sells more records than Michael Jackson so I was like
Breh says this, but came in the game with a song that sampled Jackson 5's "I Want You Back".
Yea i think P influenced Jay Z to do better. To me what saved Jay Z was when he retired and did the married life thing with beyonce. Had Jay-Z stayed in the game he would have been a victim of 50 Cent.. Jay waited til 50 died down then came back..
When i look back at No Limit they kind of ruined themselves. After 23 albums in 1998 they should had got more producers.. He shouldn't have allowed people to leave the tank.. Birdman forced Juvenile to honor his contract. Kane and Abel, Mac, C Murder going to jail was the nail in the coffin..
@Marlo Barksdale I feel like you did too much nitpicking on P in this thread, it comes off as haterish.
Marlo Barksdale
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Because I came with verified sources to refute misinformation? We have to learn from the full story if we don't want the mistakes to be repeated.
That security guard from the C Murder trial need his ass beat
Mac and C murder need to be free. Raggedy ass racist Louisiana juries sent them nikkas to prison for life with little to no evidence.
Mac and C murder need to be free. Raggedy ass racist Louisiana juries sent them nikkas to prison for life with little to no evidence.
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Big Ed getting knocked out in the club 
Smitty Belafonte
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Just watching now, so C got caught on camera shooting at somebody in the club??? 
He ain’t never getting out of prison. How the hell does he expect people to believe he didn’t do that shyt.
He ain’t never getting out of prison. How the hell does he expect people to believe he didn’t do that shyt.
Just watching now, so C got caught on camera shooting at somebody in the club???
because he’s in jail for murder isn’t he? Also I think someone else even admitted to the murder of the person he’s in jail for.
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To be fair P was biting from the beginning.
I respect what your saying but to be fair all these moguls are without flaws or controversy. Folks have complained master p not being all the way an angel business wise with the artists HOWEVER Master P is a genius and I love his grind man.
We cannot ignore Def Jam. It was a two man operation Rick Rubin and Russel Simmons.
when hip hop was downplayed.
Before social media and big budget movies and recording contracts.
DeF Jam. Russell Simmons used his management experience to get management under that umbrella,fashion, from sneakers to boat shoes hood and preppy gear. His Phat Farm clothing brand and later his wife had female version of Phat Farm those made millions. You even had Phat Farm clothing stores.
def Jam also branched and signed dudes east , West and south
Also films too
Def Jam became a multi media powerhouse.
Russell had comedy Def Jam Comedy his comedy shows birth or gave shine to many black comics from Martin, to Bernie Mac. He signed hip hop acts each unique in their own way. Ll Cool J was first rapper to go platinum as a solo artist I am
90percent sure on that.
...before Russell sold the company or his share. He took the label where it needed to go.
You build the company from scratch build it worth millions sell it and retire and do side projects.
WuTang early on with it's branding leading to each artists to branch out to sign to different record labels and clothing line
JayZ situation is a bit different.
He went to Def Jam however it was a partnership with Rockefella.
The JayZ brand including Rockawear and Aamandale,vodka,
State Property and State Property group and gear. Dame doing films etc..
Master P is up there in hall of fame achiements.
I have include Luther Campbell from 2live crew from Florida for the sacrifices fighting censorship paving the way for south to make big moves from indie perspective.
You can't take away Uptown Records Andre Harrel bought lifestyle grown man fashion uptown downtown to the hip hop scene hip hop and R&B to the next level with his rooster and vision to film television. Diddy outshine him but he coached Diddy.
Can't forget eazy e,suavehouse
Ruff Ryder's and others of course cash money,deathrow,...rapalot records,
Can't forget Sugar Hill Records technically the first back indie hip hop label
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Don't forget DeF Jam was the blue print when it came to small label like def Jam that got into clothes,film,comedy (def Jam) , management,comedy,film etc...
As they became big.
Also when Rockefella partner with Def Jam when def Jam became a powerhouse and corporate and Russell sold his shares. The executives like lyor and Kevin Liles and them coaching JayZ. By then LL cool j their hip hop royalty didn't want to be president. JayZ became executive. Folks forget DeF Jam was small label rounded by Rick and Russell in college dorm
Speaking of def Jam, I'm not defending or saying I like lyer Cohen who later ran def jam
some folks like him some don't but JPrince said Lyor Cohen gave him "game" how to make money on the record business.
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I'm only halfway through this thread but got damn it's a nikka that's PRESSED about the sales numbers. There's like a back and forth for 100 posts straight.