No 90s Hip Hop Album has Stood The Test of Time Quite Like Mobb Deep’s The Infamous - GOAT Album

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How did they get it wrong? It's a rule that THEY made. It's their chart.
We agree that Billboard chart placement doesn’t always accurately reflect how big a single was then.


It is not as simple as an album that was huge in the 90's should have high streaming numbers decades later. It doesn't work like that. This is evidence that you have absolutely no clue as to what you are talking about.
Ok. Let’s try it this way. Would the fact that a 90s album went 6x platinum during its run make it more likely that it would outstream a 90s album that went gold during its run?

Yes or no.


Streaming is still new and to attempt to apply streaming numbers to justify "no 90's album stood the test of time quite like Infamous" is insane.
By the same token, Smilez and Southstar could sell twenty million copies of their album tomorrow. Is it too early to say that GRODT outsold it?
Of course this is subject to change. We can talk about the current state of the data that we have access to and draw conclusions. It’s not “insane”.


I challenge you to make a separate thread about how the streaming numbers DIRECTLY correlate to your premise.
That’s exactly what this thread is :dead:


There are a bunch of albums from the 90's that were high sellers that stream less than albums that sold significantly less. I've brought this up multiple times.
But you’ve already acknowledged that Infamous and 2001 aren’t equals because of how much more commercially successful 2001 was in real time. Which is essentially the whole point of the thread.
And before you brought it up, I brought it up in the OP (Bone and Puffy).


Because Spotify isn't the ENTIRE picture. Never said they shouldn't be considered. They just aren't the whole picture.
So we agree it isn’t “insane” to look at the Spotify numbers.



Point blank, by your own logic, Infamous has not stood the test of time more than any other 90's Hip Hop album as there's other 90's Hip Hop albums that have significantly more streams.
This was never my point or my logic. Usually your reading comprehension is pretty good. You feeling alright?

Streaming has nothing to do with how much it sold in real time
Yet the other 11 albums were commercial juggernauts, so I don’t see the logic to say that it has nothing to do with it.
 

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28 fukking years now...wow. My older brother who was constantly back and forth from Roxbury (Boston) to New York put me on to it right after it dropped. I remember rapping along to 'I'm only 19 and my mind is older' and being heated that I still had awhile to go to get to 19. The CD liner with the subway picture had a kid who looked exactly like me so I used to lie to girls at the mall that I was him to get numbers.

In Boston it wasn't really popping like that until Flex dropped volume 1 of that mixtape with Shook Ones over C.R.E.A.M. After that everyone was piaying it.

I honestly can't think of a better album in hip hop. EVER. I don't even think about skipping over one track because the album begs to be listened to in order. The only thing that gets an equal amount of play in my house is War Report...but because of the uneveness of Capone's absence that album gets dinged (beyond Nore's control, I know).

GOAT ALBUM. RIP PRODIGY.
 

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Classic :wow:
Hav did a beat and drum programming on that :wow:
I didn't even know that! Nore hates when War Report is compared to The Infamous and CNN to Mobb Deep. I get where he's coming from but I'll forever link those two albums and those two duos.

I think the difference is that The War Report has more anthems and 'superhero' music. Makes you feel invincible. Street life is hopeful and glamarous and mostly dangerous for whoever is on the other side. It's like what Future's music feels like today.

The Infamous was gritty, grimey, painted a crazy picture of the streets through the lens of survival. More of a cautionary tale.
 
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I think Infamous pretty much stands on its own as far as the test of time from that era. It exists in a bubble, but yet outside of the other bubbles. It's boom bap, but not late 80's, early 90's boom bap. It's soulful, but not the jazzy 90s hip-hop. It's dark for winter, yet lively and energetic for summer. Then it has just the right amount of polish. '95 was the year of transition between gutter and shine.

Cuban Linx comes close, however it does capture a moment in time. But it should, it's a movie. You listen to Cuban, and while it has timeless tracks, you're clearly listening to '95/'96 drug dealers. The Infamous is somewhat a youthful rebellion, and that echoes through any era.
 

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Listen. Thenfamous is a solid 5 micer. I put it on par with 36, illmatic, ready to die.

But its not better than Hell on Earth. That is peak mobb deep artistry. Thats slots reserved for the albums so good its not fair. Above 5 micers. Theres only like 10 of these albums period. Hell on earth is cuban linx , life after death , supreme clientele wutang forever level.
 
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