Nina Turner eyes Marcia Fudge's Ohio U.S. House seat: Turner EATS BOWL OF SH!T to Brown

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:mjgrin:let the record reflect, i went to america's party school, arizona state. i bring the average down
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Desantis is no dummy, he's only taking advantage of the stupid Floridians.:manny: Like if you're dumb enough to support a govenor who is against mask mandates in the middle of a deadly pandemic, you deserve what you get. At some point we have to start placing blame on the voters who keep electing useless politicans. It's not hard to differentiate between a con artist and someone that actually knows what they're talking about and will fight for real change.
I like using DeSantis as an example. Obama works here too.

Doesn't matter how elite he is he comes across as relatable and connects to his constituency in on a cultural and personal level.

When you dwindle everything down to class issues, how can you expect well off folks to be or feel like true representatives for those who are struggling to survive?

It's a question of electability more so than policy.
 

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1. How can a group of people be disenfranchised by the left when the left hasn’t had real representation in government going all the way back to like the 40’s-50’s.

2. when you remove the propaganda and other bullshyt almost everyone centrist right or far right favors socialistic policies over the bullshyt their fed by our two very right wing parties in government. So the idea that leftist ideas aren’t compatible here is pretty much just nonsense. Nina had the working class voters, she just didn’t get enough of them that’s all there is too it. Just gotta try again and keep the message out there
No the issue is that leftist politicians struggle at making inroads at the level they need for their target demographics and ultimately end up losing to people with more pragmatic ideas.

Even our revolution recognizes this. People who need help can't afford to hold out for pie in the sky.
 

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Contrary to popular belief, Turner was the "establishment" candidate and Brown was the unknown underdog.

Turner has been in the national spotlight for years :manny:

To simple minded voters, they went with the "unknown".
I usually just disagree with whatever you say off principle, but there's an argument to be made that Turner represents the Bernie Sanders wing of the party who has been making big promises for years, but never delivered.
 

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I usually just disagree with whatever you say off principle, but there's an argument to be made that Turner represents the Bernie Sanders wing of the party who has been making big promises for years, but never delivered.

I’m just going by straight exposure to the masses. Turner is a national figure. Which makes her a polarizing figure. And an easy target. Potential voters probably stayed home thinking she was going to win. The other chick got a money push, but you can’t buy the coverage Turner has gotten over the years.
 
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No the issue is that leftist politicians struggle at making inroads at the level they need for their target demographics and ultimately end up losing to people with more pragmatic ideas.

Even our revolution recognizes this. People who need help can't afford to hold out for pie in the sky.

Nina literally won over her target demographics she just didn't get enough people. She just didn't do enough to drive out the support to win. She lost because the suburbs just got more people to come out. Also Center right policies aren't pragmatic at all and don't actually do anything help anyone so I really wish people would stop using that word.

Dark money seemingly really did cost Nina this election with the last minute surge for ads driving out suburban participation. There's a reason the winner OPENLY AND DIRECTLY thanked the Israeli's for their help in her acceptance speech. It's pretty disgusting
 
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Desantis is no dummy, he's only taking advantage of the stupid Floridians.:manny: Like if you're dumb enough to support a govenor who is against mask mandates in the middle of a deadly pandemic, you deserve what you get. At some point we have to start placing blame on the voters who keep electing useless politicans. It's not hard to differentiate between a con artist and someone that actually knows what they're talking about and will fight for real change.

Yeah, I'm not sure why he's bringing up DeSantis education when it's pretty obvious the guy is just evil and a fascist.
 

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Nina literally won over her target demographics she just didn't get enough people. She just didn't do enough to drive out the support to win. She lost because the suburbs just got more people to come out. Also Center right policies aren't pragmatic at all and don't actually do anything help anyone so I really wish people would stop using that word.

Dark money seemingly really did cost Nina this election with the last minute surge for ads driving out suburban participation. There's a reason the winner OPENLY AND DIRECTLY thanked the Israeli's for their help in her acceptance speech. It's pretty disgusting
Nina Turner was on every high profile black media and national mainstream media outlets for the last 5 years and still blew it. IDK what you’re supposed to be suggesting. She lost fair and square. A woman no one heard of nationally until six months ago smoked one of the most famous political figures in the country.
 
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Nina Turner was on every high profile black media and national mainstream media outlets for the last 5 years and still blew it. IDK what you’re supposed to be suggesting. She lost fair and square. A woman no one heard of nationally until six months ago smoked one of the most famous political figures in the country.
Fair within the confines of law but foreign donating LARGE sums of money to American candidates because ultimately their victory benefits their country financially is pretty fukked up from an ethical standpoint. Not to mention any support of Israel is directly supporting Palestinian genocide
 
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