That was beautifully put the way she broke that down. I never thought of it like that, the way she said "fake it with me"
When she said those lines....
Damn.... sent a shock thru me...
Stop my women bashing for at least a couple days
Nikki Giovanni and James Baldwin conversation
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Damn.... sent a shock thru me...
Stop my women bashing for at least a couple days
Youseenmywork
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NG was a hypocrite and Black male hating lesbian
She is the Muse of the modern day social media Black woman c00n
And her point is hypocritical as hell
All people are fake at their job and real with the ones they love
I swear most people are legit idiots
But bu
I thought u was supposed to be honest n real in a relationship
I was going to disagree as well but with tact and respect but you was like fukk all that
. I will say thoe women often wonder WHY the side chick get the REAL man. It because he dosent have to tamper down aspects of himself that his main chic dosent like or he feels like she couldn’t handle or even wouldn’t understand. Now I’m with that Patrice philosophy of i just like honest shyt. I can’t lie cause I’m not the nikka that is going to come up with a lie from a lie to back ALL my lies up. It anit me and truth be told it has never been me. I don’t agree with the clip I do understand we’re she coming from thoe. It’s just at this age if I’m dealing with chics they just except me for who I am and if they don’t then that’s coo to there is the door.
For the most part nikkas lie cause it softens the blow to the Inevitable L . I’d rather just take that L and find somebody else. Trust it gon be nikka that come in the thread on some by bu bu but if you lover her you have to lie to her ...I’ve heard all sides of this argument. I’m just glad I got my EGO in check years ago.
Thank you for tagging me in this. The intellectualism, the knowledge ..makes me just think and reflect. There's so many jaded people, negativity and dysfunction these days, listening to this is like finding your own place in the chaos, you can't help but pay attention to their words. I think people who don't get their message are eternally jaded; people have to look at them from an artistic and spiritual perspective.
HarlemHottie
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Funny, my man was just saying it might be time for a re-reading of Baldwin (he be going in on these Harlem landlords ). I'll watch later, thanks for the tag @Dr D Earth Is Flat Irving. 
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). I'll watch later, thanks for the tag @Dr D Earth Is Flat Irving. .
Stacker Pentecost
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James Baldwin and Nikki Giovanni’s Extraordinary Forgotten Conversation About the Language of Love and What It Takes to Be Truly Empowered
“If you don’t understand yourself you don’t understand anybody else.”
By Maria Popova
In November of 1971, fifteen months after his remarkable conversation with Margaret Mead about race and identity, James Baldwin (August 2, 1924–December 1, 1987) sat down with another extraordinary woman, the poet Nikki Giovanni (b. June 7, 1943), for another conversation of astonishing timeliness today. The event was hosted by the PBS television series SOUL! and took place in London. Baldwin was forty-six and Giovanni only twenty-eight. For hours of absolute presence, intellectual communion, and occasional respectful rebuttal, they explored justice, freedom, morality, and what it means to be an empowered human being. The transcript was eventually published as A Dialogue (public library
Funny, my man was just saying it might be time for a re-reading of Baldwin (he be going in on these Harlem landlords
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Fantastic conversation from two of my favorite visionaries
I’m bout to start making threads on my videos and tagging y’all in them lol. I had a couple of public conversations last year that went really well as a part of my Black Americans series
The [Black] Americans - YouTube
Let me tag @Selah and @Indiglow Meta (R$G) in this thread too
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HarlemHottie
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SIS!! Your hair is looking luscious and bountiful! 
Stacker Pentecost
Superstar
Thank you!!!!! I gotta catch you at the next public convo we put on in Harlem! The last one turned out sooo amazing
love being in Harlem
Kinda hurt my heart a little to hear her say that. I feel her 100%.
Black Bolt
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Find you to be quite erractic & scattergun as a poster but props on this post, well written & succinct. I agree with every word.
MajesticLion
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I see what she's getting at, but I disagree. In her pointing out to Baldwin that she demands the best of him as a/her man and deserves to be lied to, she implicitly gives validity to the idea of capitalist skewing toward money as the end goal to everything.
"Relationships" are now data driven and commoditized.
Useful fools are everywhere yelling STEM! STEM! STEM! like the parrots they are, but think it's right and normal that they cannot communicate nor reason effectively...as long as they're getting paid.
And on, and on, and on.
When money is your god, all manner of folly becomes possible.
Whoever we are, whoever we are to be...family, friends, lovers, community, whatever...it cannot be built on a lie. As a thing begins, so does it go(barring some severe catalyst...another topic). If all you have is pretense then you are destined for failure no matter how much you try to postpone the judgment.
"Relationships" are now data driven and commoditized.
Useful fools are everywhere yelling STEM! STEM! STEM! like the parrots they are, but think it's right and normal that they cannot communicate nor reason effectively...as long as they're getting paid.
And on, and on, and on.
When money is your god, all manner of folly becomes possible.
Whoever we are, whoever we are to be...family, friends, lovers, community, whatever...it cannot be built on a lie. As a thing begins, so does it go(barring some severe catalyst...another topic). If all you have is pretense then you are destined for failure no matter how much you try to postpone the judgment.
Dr. Narcisse
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Rhymefest Reimagines The Beauty of the Black Diaspora On His New Album ‘James & Nikki: A Conversation’
Feb 27, 2024
BET.com spoke with Rhymefest about how the conversation between James Baldwin and Nikki Giovanni that first aired on Ellis B. Haizlip’s “Soul!” more than 50 years ago became the impetus for his latest project and how it transformed his entire perspective. Held during a time of social upheaval, the discussion between the two public intellectuals covers racism, sexism, classism, and much more.
“When I first saw them speaking, it was the clips on the internet, and it sounded like Nikki was speaking to James like a wife to a husband. She said, ‘You lie to me, you smile at the guy at work, then you come home and I get the worst of it,” Rhymesfest said. “I was like, “Why is she talking to James Baldwin like this?”
“She was showing the intersection of being a poet but we can also manifest what it is to be in a relationship with our poetry. We can also manifest what it is to be a teacher and student, gay or straight, and what it is to be oppressed, and overlooked. When I saw those clips, I had to go watch the entire two-hour interview,” he continued.
During the early stages of creating a project, Rhymesfest received the ultimate compliment when Giovanni, now Emerita Professor at Virginia Tech University, where she taught for 35 years, gave the project a glowing endorsement.
“When Nikki Giovanni first heard the demo version of the project, she called me and said, “Jimmy would be proud of you.” You don't call Baldwin Jimmy unless you know him. That's when I realized that you do anything great for the people of your time. The greatness that you produce is for the future. So when Nikki got to hear this, she got to see some of the fruits of her labor.”
As Rhymefest personified the male perspective of Baldwin with his insightful lyricism, he enlisted several immensely talented female MCs who captured the feminine energy of Giovanni. He shared how the dexterous songwriting of Brittney Carter, Helixx C. Armageddon, Teefa, Freddie Old Soul, EP Da Hellcat, and C-Red made him an even better artist.
“The co-authors of this project, the women who were curated for this project, were picked because I saw the Spirit of Nikki Giovanni,” he explained. “I needed somebody to counterpoint me in the spirit and Nikki, who sees the angles that I'm not seeing.”
“These women inspired me to rhyme, they challenged me to rhyme. They run better than me. I had to keep up with them. And it was and it was purposeful, that I got women that it wasn't like and I love. I love all the sisters out there right now like Ill Camille, Rhapsody, and Glorilla. However, I wanted to get women that were dope, who didn't have a platform.”
“Creator”, the album’s exceptional first single featuring Brittney Carter and Rell Suma explores the themes of infidelity, accountability, grace, and forgiveness.
Another standout track from the project is “Elderberry,” which honors the legacy of grandmothers, the matriarchs of the Black community, and “Déjà vu” with Helixx C. Armageddon examines the traumatic effects of domestic violence. On this ambitious album, he shared that he was always destined for the path that he’s on, although it took years for him to realize it. That conclusion has been the fuel to drive him to pursue his creative endeavors.
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