Nigerians in Nigeria love TRUMP. Here is why...

[Misreeya]

Wasn't that haplogroup in the sudanese just acquired through admixture with arabs though ?

I don't know where they're originally from, but how do you suppose the hausa ended up speaking an afro-asiatic language ? unless you think the language is native to west africa ?

In regards to the haplogroup historians and geneticist have to do more research, because i find it very weird that Egyptians rarely carry that variant J1, and they (Egyptians) were arabized or islamicized way before Northern Sudan/Parts of Upper Egypt. I am not saying admixture did not happen, however it is not to the degree that the inhabitants got replaced like in the United States or Carribbean or Argentina.

but how do you suppose the hausa ended up speaking an afro-asiatic language

That is a good question. However the thing is we should not racialize a language group. For example some of the Omotic tribes in Ethiopia also speak a Afro-Asiatic language.

Omotic languages - Wikipedia

 

[yates]

In regards to the haplogroup historians and geneticist have to do more research, because i find it very weird that Egyptians rarely carry that variant J1, and they (Egyptians) were arabized or islamicized way before Northern Sudan/Parts of Upper Egypt. I am not saying admixture did not happen, however it is not to the degree that the inhabitants got replaced like in the United States or Carribbean or Argentina.



That is a good question. However the thing is we should not racialize a language group. For example some of the Omotic tribes in Ethiopia also speak a Afro-Asiatic language.

Omotic languages - Wikipedia

Yeah omotic is afro Asiatic.

I personally think the Afro asiatic language is native to northeast/horn of Africa. So I wonder how the Hausa ended up speaking it. I don’t think it’s impossible that they could have migrated from that region. It makes more sense with them than other west African ethnic groups.

 

[Gravity]

smh how many times do we have to say black does meant we are kinfolk, we are not all same ethnic group.

there is literally only 1 country in Africa that is culturally/ethnically homogenous and that is Somalia

understand Nigeria is a country made up of atleast 3 or more smaller countries

Japanese, Chinese, and Koreans are all Asians but look how japan decimated the last 2 during ww2, people keep forgetting the game is about power and allocation of resources

gotdam yall really do have a poor understanding of history

Sometimes you ask questions just to get people to admit obvious answers. I already knew tribalism is the reason that a majority of blacks are conquered and subjugated by a minority of non blacks. I just wanted you to acknowledge it. It should be embarrassing to admit that y’all can’t put your petty intraracial tribal differences to the side long enough to get non black oppressors up off your necks, but I see you just making excuses.

Everybody is Black and African in Nigeria. There are some goofy groups who claim to originate from Israel or somewhere in the Middle East but they are all delusional. The Fulani might have a case but even they are mostly Sub Saharan African.

Secondly, I've got nothing against the Fulani/Hausa Muslim Northerners. They are victims of their elite as well.

Let's not forget that Boko Haram targeted fellow Muslims and their region is by far the poorest and most uneducated in the country.

My contribution to this thread was just to explain this obscene love some Nigerians have for Trump. It makes me sick. Even today as I opened facebook I saw a few pro-trump/Israel posts. The usual, "Trump was sent by God to save Israel and Christians".

Nigerians might be smart in somethings, but they are just as ignorant/stupid as White Magas in a lot of other things. I had to explain to a friend (Israeli enthusiast) recently that Jews are not Christians. He was genuinely shocked that they do not believe Jesus is the messiah. These are the kinds of people we are dealing with

Respect.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Sometimes you ask questions just to get people to admit obvious answers. I already knew tribalism is the reason that a majority of blacks are conquered and subjugated by a minority of non blacks. I just wanted you to acknowledge it. It should be embarrassing to admit that y’all can’t put your petty intraracial tribal differences to the side long enough to get non black oppressors up off your necks, but I see you just making excuses.
Respect.

are you retarded the oppressor is black, fukk do you not understand. its literally one groups vs the other and the other group has the money and power which we don't. its not about the people at the top but the whole other opposition.

don't speak to me about foreign affairs you clearly have no knowledge on.

shyt like this is LITEREALLY WHAT CAUSED WW2

 

[generic-username]

are you retarded the oppressor is black, fukk do you not understand. its literally one groups vs the other and the other group has the money and power which we don't. its not about the people at the top but the whole other opposition.

don't speak to me about foreign affairs you clearly have no knowledge on.

shyt like this is LITEREALLY WHAT CAUSED WW2

Dude is a perfect example why you can't discuss African politics with a non-African. Most of them are very clueless about the dynamics of how things work on the continent

 

[Gravity]

are you retarded the oppressor is black, fukk do you not understand. its literally one groups vs the other and the other group has the money and power which we don't. its not about the people at the top but the whole other opposition.

don't speak to me about foreign affairs you clearly have no knowledge on.

shyt like this is LITEREALLY WHAT CAUSED WW2

Onenof the people that I was exchanging with said it was the British and the northern Muslims that were responsible for the corrupt government, so if the brits and the Arab Muslims aren’t the oppressors and it’s really black running shut and oppressing the people, then why haven’t the masses rise up against that black oppressors? You stupid motherfukker.

The fukk I need to talk to you for? You quoted me.

 

[GodinDaFlesh]

It's solely due to religion/Trump being perceived as tough on Muslim extremists.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Onenof the people that I was exchanging with said it was the British and the northern Muslims that were responsible for the corrupt government you stupid motherfukker.

fukkin hell you are really that retarded

Britain colonized the area got money and dipped and handed the country over to the northerners who are BLACK they just happen to practice Islam instead of Christianity.

but they forced all colonies to unionize into one country

yo go read a history book or something im tired of arguing with idiots

 

[Gravity]

fukkin hell you are really that retarded

Britain colonized the area got money and dipped and handed the country over to the northerners who are BLACK they just happen to practice Islam instead of Christianity.

but they forced all colonies to unionize into one country

yo go read a history book or something im tired of arguing with idiots

This isn’t an argument. I really don’t give a fukk bout your history. I asked a rhetorical question and the point was made. I didn’t quote you and don’t care what you’ve got to say.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

This isn’t an argument. I really don’t give a fukk bout your history. I asked a rhetorical question and the point was made. I didn’t quote you and don’t care what you’ve got to say.

im saying don't ask dumb fukkin questions you could have literally youtubed or googled. its 2020 and mfers still asking the STUPIDEST of questions like they don't have a phone with the internet in their hand

 

[DrBanneker]

Actually they are not, Hausa people don't carry this variant of DNA J1 subclade



Haplogroup J-M267 - Wikipedia


No, the Hausa do not share our history.

They are most likely related to the people in the Darfur region or South Kordofan. I am not saying they are, but possible.

I don't know the details of the ancestral genetics of either group but the evidence you cite above is a Y chromosome haplogroup that is paternally transmitted while the Hausa connection to Sudan from the Tishkoff paper is based on mitochondrial DNA which is maternally transmitted. You could be right but it could also be the case the Hausa are related primarily via ancient Sudanese/Nilotic women who married other African (and maybe European/Middle Eastern men due to the Hausa having the R1b Y haplogroup) and migrated to Nigeria. Just sayin.

 

[Benjamin Sisko]

Colonial masters are about money and power not faith/religion.

But they beat y’all (and us) to accepting to worship their white Jesus. Did Christianity flourish before colonization?

 

[DrBanneker]

Israel when financially in ruins got a lot of money and resources from Nigeria from my uncle who was the President and understood we were brothers away from home. The issue was when the war took place, Biafra was whooping ass. The US put pressure on Israel to end its support of Biafra. China and South Africa was weaker than Nigeria at that time, their support didn't mean shyt. France support was bogus, they just wanted to do business with the Igbos and they didn't really give us weapons like that. Biafra lost because of three countries.

1. Great Britain - Trained, funded, and helped Nigeria.
2. USA - See GB
3. Russia who was two-face. Selling weapons to both sides, telling the North where, and all types of fukkery.

The US then made Biafra the face of poverty and hunger.

Yeah that's how Medcins Sans Frontiers started too.

To be fair too, some Africans like Nyerere supported Biafra when Tanzania recognized it. I think Biafra's problem though, rather than what you mentioned above, was the African independent nations as a whole represented as the OAU wanted strict integrity of borders and many were angered and jaded by the whole shytshow Moise Tshombe started with the Katanga secession in the Congo. Here US/GB/Belgium outright supported the secessionists (backed by White money and guns) to destroy the Congo and Lumumba. It didn't help Biafra's image that some of the same White mercenaries that fought for Katanga found their way to Biafra later on. Biafra wasn't a White man plot but it appeared like such to some, especially when Israel got involved.

If Biafra happened now though I am oddly more optimistic than then. I have a bad feeling Ojukwu would have ended up like Lumumba or Boganda (dead) or kicked out like Nkrumah. Blacks in the US JUST got Civil Rights and they were going to allow a strong, independent Black country? Ask our Haitian brehs how that went.

Things are more multipolar now so you might have a chance though it would have to happen within a generation to have any momentum.

 

[DrBanneker]

But they beat y’all (and us) to accepting to worship their white Jesus. Was Christianity flourish before colonization?

In places like Old Nubia and the Kingdom of Kongo Christianity did thrive relatively independently (though some Kongolese kings were stupid and listened to the Portuguese priests to run their country)

 

[Benjamin Sisko]

In places like Old Nubia and the Kingdom of Kongo Christianity did thrive relatively independently (though some Kongolese kings were stupid and listened to the Portuguese priests to run their country)

I understand in other part of Afrika Christianity did flourish but I’m talking specifically about Nigeria pre-colonization.