NFL Week 13: What Have We Learned??!!

HAVE YOU LEARNED ANYTHING NEW?


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I don’t believe he would dominate in any era.

I’ve been watching this game my entire life. Closely. Been in the mix, on the sideline, in the meeting rooms etc.

And I’m not an era hater. It is what it is, if you played any era you either benefited from something others did not, or you had shackles that others did not. Life is life.

I was just telling a homeboy that I was at a Rams game (sideline) and the WRs and DBs looked like kids to me. I had to go google these guys lol. And I respect they are dominate football players that’s how they made an NFL team, but for 25 years I’ve seen guys look like mutants (even skill positions) and now they look like HS players…

And the truth is, they changed the defense so much (particuarly pass defense and linebacker play) that teams lean towards really small, speedy guys. DBs can’t put hands on, and Linebackers can’t bump them off routes or hit between hashes, which was football for 40 years until recently.

Tyreek in any other era is a beast at slot that you couldn’t get production from outside the hashes. But now, since you can’t touch him, he’s free to unleash hell in a way a Santana Moss was not. (No knock on him, he’s a great football player)

I have a coach friend that always says this:

“Man…I always wonder what the record book would look like if we weren’t allowed to touch Randy Moss :huhldup:

So salute to what this kid is doing, I freaking love to see it, but I ain’t finna disrespect anybody era outside of pre70s lmao (I ran into Franco Harris and this MF look like damn Derrick Henry and he was like 70)
I get what you're saying, but we also saw Torry/Isaac Bruce, Marvin Harrison, Steve Smith, etc. light up from the outside because of their quickness, speed and route running but they ain't close to the explosive runner, with the deceleration/acceleration Tyreek has.

What we're seeing is a sure-handed, route-running technician who's great at making people miss with change of direction and 4.2 speed. I think that translates to any era imo.

I actually really like what someone said on reddit a few days ago:
It's not straight line speed, defenses can defend that.

He's a very explosive athlete, he can go from 0 to 60 in an instant in any direction. Combine that with the fact he is surprisingly very strong, making him hard to jam and tackle.

If you play over the top he will take a slant to the house. If you play press he will burn you deep. Even if you're in perfect position, he's just a better athlete than you.
The problem is he's a short, but not small WR (Marvin was 175 lbs.). Additionally, the guy is so compact it's difficult to tackle him. Dude can probably truck most DB's like a RB. Defenders got to get low to hit him and when they spend time changing levels he can make a zippy move and be outta there and when he gets one step, it's over. That's why those jump backs basically make everyone look slow.

A lot of those DB's were pretty strong, but watching Marvin, Torry, etc. highlights, man a lot of them CB's were slow as molasses during that time as well. If the best at the time was Champ, I got almost zero doubts Tyreek makes that era look bad (especially how Champ said his toughest matchup was Marvin).

Like imagine Tyreek in an era where Troy Vincent, Lito Shepard, Sam Madison, Chris McAlister, Dre Bly, Ronde Barber, etc. are the best cornerbacks. It'd be records everywhere. They'd have never seen anything like that: Marvin's quickness and route tree, Moss's speed and hands, Devin Hester in the open field, etc.
 
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I hate to say this, but I think Tomlin might need to be on the list with Beli. A third of the league is going to be looking for coaches and I wouldn't be surprised if that includes the Steelers and Patriots. Both of them chose their staff. Both of them have been rolling on the idea of them being two of the best, but the past two years have been bad for both regardless of who the QB is because they handpicked the OC.

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Will be looking:
Panthers
Raiders
Commanders
Jets
Falcons
Bears
Buccaneers
Chargers
Saints

Real Possibility:
Bills
Giants
Browns
Packers

I wouldn't be surprised:
Steelers
Pats

I wish. :francis:

Loomis will find a way to Juelz and cop pleas for Stinky and Sid (injuries, more time, "stability", etc.) and give them another chance next year. :smh: :snoop:
 

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I wish. :francis:

Loomis will find a way to Juelz and cop pleas for Stinky and Sid (injuries, more time, "stability", etc.) and give them another chance next year. :smh: :snoop:

It would be literal insanity for y'all to keep Dennis Allen. Y'all team plays hard, but y'all play like the entire coaching staff is making up strategy on the spot.
 

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I don’t believe he would dominate in any era.

I’ve been watching this game my entire life. Closely. Been in the mix, on the sideline, in the meeting rooms etc.

And I’m not an era hater. It is what it is, if you played any era you either benefited from something others did not, or you had shackles that others did not. Life is life.

I was just telling a homeboy that I was at a Rams game (sideline) and the WRs and DBs looked like kids to me. I had to go google these guys lol. And I respect they are dominate football players that’s how they made an NFL team, but for 25 years I’ve seen guys look like mutants (even skill positions) and now they look like HS players…

And the truth is, they changed the defense so much (particuarly pass defense and linebacker play) that teams lean towards really small, speedy guys. DBs can’t put hands on, and Linebackers can’t bump them off routes or hit between hashes, which was football for 40 years until recently.

Tyreek in any other era is a beast at slot that you couldn’t get production from outside the hashes. But now, since you can’t touch him, he’s free to unleash hell in a way a Santana Moss was not. (No knock on him, he’s a great football player)

I have a coach friend that always says this:

“Man…I always wonder what the record book would look like if we weren’t allowed to touch Randy Moss :huhldup:

So salute to what this kid is doing, I freaking love to see it, but I ain’t finna disrespect anybody era outside of pre70s lmao (I ran into Franco Harris and this MF look like damn Derrick Henry and he was like 70)
Buggin

If you want to argue that he'd stay hurt, fine. But on the field there's no one covering him and no scheme built that can contain him without giving up too much underneath.
 

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It would be literal insanity for y'all to keep Dennis Allen. Y'all team plays hard, but y'all play like the entire coaching staff is making up strategy on the spot.

Although Stinky and Sid cannot coach/coordinate worth a damn :jordanfacepalm:, they (along with Loomis) have definitely mastered the art of cac cronyism within the organization. :dry:
 

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The Patriots are an embarrassment and Belichick NEEDS to go.

I can’t get down with this. Football fans are so overreactive.

That man turned that franchise into one of the most prestigious franchises in football and one bad season and he needs to be fired :heh:

shyt is hilarious. If anything he should not be a GM and just focus on coaching.
 

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I learned Tyreek not only leading the league in YAC, but also yards in air before catch.

People who think this dude wouldn't dominate in any era are bugging.

I'm also hoping Bienemy doesn't take the Commanders job. That team is straight up a coaching killer the way it's set up and won't give him any slack.

Agreed. It also highlights how little credit alot of pundits are giving tua. He's near the top in air yds and Yac. But of course he gets labeled a yac merchant.

As for Bienemy he's in an impossible situation and I thought he should've never taken that Washington job.
 

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-Bryce Young’s arm is weak as f***, even his sole long throw completion was underthrown
-CJ Stroud standing on business
-Eagles got the wake up check they needed
-Commanders need to blow it all completely up
-I might shank Dave & Nicole Tepper in 2024
-I want to sorta see a Miami/San Fran SB
 

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-Bryce Young’s arm is weak as f***, even his sole long throw completion was underthrown
-CJ Stroud standing on business
-Eagles got the wake up check they needed
-Commanders need to blow it all completely up
-I might shank Dave & Nicole Tepper in 2024
-I want to sorta see a Miami/San Fran SB

:whoa: Leave them be. :ufdup:

They offset the incompetence and fukkery Stinky, Sid, and Derek fukkin CAC produce in the NFC South. :mjgrin: :lolbron:
 

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I can’t get down with this. Football fans are so overreactive.

That man turned that franchise into one of the most prestigious franchises in football and one bad season and he needs to be fired :heh:

shyt is hilarious. If anything he should not be a GM and just focus on coaching.
What you're saying only makes sense if you overall just ignore the big picture

This is the culmination of bad drafts (particularly on offense), cheapness, questionable coaching staff hires, and overall arrogance and mediocre people skills.

Something that has been there for 20 years, but Brady covered up. That's how "belichick turned it around". Open your eyes. If you want belichick you can have him, it's good riddance for me
 
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