NFL Week 12: What Have We Learned??!

[BrehWyatt]

How can a team should be anything.... You a hater breh... Eagles score when they needed. Stop looking at empty stats

MVS dropped what should have been the game winning TD for KC. Dallas shot themselves in the foot on their last drive. We just saw the Buffalo game where a miscommunication between Allen and Davis cost them the game-winning TD.

Way to gloss over the part where I credited Philly for doing what they are supposed to do when the other team doesn't do what they are supposed to do. Teams win games they should have lost and lose games they should have won. It is what it is.

 

[KidJSoul]

For Hurts, two things can be true at once.

He's winning games.

But he actually still isn't playing as great as he should be. His o-line and receiving group is as strong as any in the league. He has been underwhelming at times, and a great team WILL make him pay for it.

 

[feelosofer]

I said this in another thread you can't really go by stats. Jalen Hurts consistently delivers in crucial moments. He is clearly a natural leader and weirdly enough his maturity allows Nick Siriani to in sense 'let his nuts hang'.

 

[feelosofer]

For Hurts, two things can be true at once.

He's winning games.

But he actually still isn't playing as great as he should be. His o-line and receiving group is as strong as any in the league. He has been underwhelming at times, and a great team WILL make him pay for it.

What team can really 'make him pay' the Eagles schedule is pretty easy from here on out. All you have to be is better than opponent that week.

 

[KidJSoul]

MVS dropped what should have been the game winning TD for KC. Dallas shot themselves in the foot on their last drive. We just saw the Buffalo game where a miscommunication between Allen and Davis cost them the game-winning TD.

Way to gloss over the part where I credited Philly for doing what they are supposed to do when the other team doesn't do what they are supposed to do. Teams win games they should have lost and lose games they should have won. It is what it is.

For real. These people are getting emotional and sticking their head in the sand because they don't want to acknowledge the truth.

Philly didn't really stop the other team's offense... the other team just made their own fluke errors.

Don't forget the two missed field goals from Buffalo.

I guess you can say it's a testament to Philly that they avoid some of those mistakes late on offense?

 

[BrehWyatt]

For real. These people are getting emotional and sticking their head in the sand because they don't want to acknowledge the truth.

Philly didn't really stop the other team's offense... the other team just made their own fluke errors.

Don't forget the two missed field goals from Buffalo.

I guess you can say it's a testament to Philly that they avoid some of those mistakes late on offense?

When the chips are down, Philly has delivered winning plays most every time this season. That cannot be understated and it can't be praised enough. The good/great teams find a way to win when the opening presents itself, and Philly is a damn good team.

But they are absolutely not the juggernaut that they were last year, and they are not the juggernaut that their record says they are. That doesn't mean they can't go on and win the whole thing.

 

[KidJSoul]

What team can really 'make him pay' the Eagles schedule is pretty easy from here on out. All you have to be is better than opponent that week.

Yeah and I credit Philly for taking advantage and dealing the deal.


Them being down in these games too much is still worth examining though. Hurts will genuinely look anemic in the first half

 

[KidJSoul]

When the chips are down, Philly has delivered winning plays most every time this season. That cannot be understated and it can't be praised enough. The good/great teams find a way to win when the opening presents itself, and Philly is a damn good team.

But they are absolutely not the juggernaut that they were last year, and they are not the juggernaut that their record says they are. That doesn't mean they can't go on and win the whole thing.

Pretty much this.

They're sloppy, and escaping these games. This doesn't look sustainable

 

[Youngdev]

Yeah and I credit Philly for taking advantage and dealing the deal.


Them being down in these games too much is still worth examining though. Hurts will genuinely look anemic in the first half

He looked bad in what two first half’s this year? He doesn’t look bad every first half

 

[Leasy]

MVS dropped what should have been the game winning TD for KC. Dallas shot themselves in the foot on their last drive. We just saw the Buffalo game where a miscommunication between Allen and Davis cost them the game-winning TD.

Way to gloss over the part where I credited Philly for doing what they are supposed to do when the other team doesn't do what they are supposed to do. Teams win games they should have lost and lose games they should have won. It is what it is.

So we going to ignore Eagles injuries this game against Buffalo or the terrible defensive game plan against Dallas after Eagles put up 28 easily on Dallas so called elite Defense?

We not going to discuss Eagles playing in shytty conditions in KC on the road??!

Your argument is dumb because you are reaching and I can reach too.

Mind you Eagles have first time playcallers on offense and defense in the NFL. The shyt has shown all season.

 

[WaddupDoe!]

For real. These people are getting emotional and sticking their head in the sand because they don't want to acknowledge the truth.

Philly didn't really stop the other team's offense... the other team just made their own fluke errors.

Don't forget the two missed field goals from Buffalo.

I guess you can say it's a testament to Philly that they avoid some of those mistakes late on offense?

wait so MVS who is known for dropping passes thats a fluke play? or Dallas & Dak known for choking & having bad clock management thats a fluke? & lets not forget we sacked him on that drive too to move them back further.

Jalen Carter blocking a FG is a fluke play? or is that just a good play by the carter?

breh cmon dog. those arent flukes or thats a team/player being who they are. woulda coulda shoulda we got the dub because we made the plays.

 

[KidJSoul]

wait so MVS who is known for dropping passes thats a fluke play? or Dallas & Dak known for choking & having bad clock management thats a fluke? & lets not forget we sacked him on that drive too to move them back further.

Jalen Carter blocking a FG is a fluke play? or is that just a good play by the carter?

breh cmon dog. those are flukes thats a team/player being who they are.

Those are good points you're right

 

[BrehWyatt]

So we going to ignore Eagles injuries this game against Buffalo or the terrible defensive game plan against Dallas after Eagles put up 28 easily on Dallas so called elite Defense?

We not going to discuss Eagles playing in shytty conditions in KC on the road??!

Your argument is dumb because you are reaching and I can reach too.

Mind you Eagles have first time playcallers on offense and defense in the NFL. The shyt has shown all season.

1. Buffalo came into this game without Tredavious White and Matt Milano, so no. Injuries are part of the game and Dallas' defense is not elite. It's an opportunistic group that has feasted on clearly inferior teams.

2. KC played in those same conditions. Much like how Buffalo played in trash conditions today just like Philly. So no.

3. I have no argument. It's an observation. It's a fact that Philly is a resilient team that consistently executes in the clutch. It's also a fact that Philly has been fortunate that there have been games where they benefit from the opponents' self-inflicted errors. You're acting offended like I said your beloved Eagles are trash. They are far from trash. They are a very good team that has benefit from the miscues/missed opportunities of other teams as of late.

Considering your team lost a Super Bowl last year where if not for a false start by one of your lineman that forced y'all to choose a new play, Jalen Hurts probably doesn't drop the ball so Nick Bolton can scoop and score it OR that if Bradberry isn't flagged for holding JuJu, KC isn't able to basically run out the clock and prevent Philly from actually doing a two-minute drill that could win the game, you of all people should understand how sometimes, you need good fortune to win important games.

4. CJ Stroud is an MVP candidate with a first-time offensive playcaller and a first-time head coach. Sam Howell is on pace to lead the league in passing yards with a first-time offensive playcaller. Baltimore's defense is top 2 and leading the league in sacks with a first-time defensive playcaller. That's no excuse.

 

[Street Knowledge]

 

[KidJSoul]

Oh yeah:

Josh Allen gets flack for his turnovers, but Sean McDermott doesn't get enough heat for his defenses' blown leads.