Nfl offenses take a dip, some are asking why take a walk with me

[CrimsonTider]

Everything is in cycles. RBs will be in demand soon

NBA wishes that it had this problem

 

[duckbutta]

Teams don't play offensive starters much in the preseason...due to the money they make ( imagine paying a QB 50 million and he gets hurt in the second preseason game) so the first month of the season is the preseason for most offenses, since a lot of offense is timing based.

Once we get into Week's 5 and 6 these defenses will start getting cooked again.

 

[DropTopDoc]

Teams don't play offensive starters much in the preseason...due to the money they make ( imagine paying a QB 50 million and he gets hurt in the second preseason game) so the first month of the season is the preseason for most offenses, since a lot of offense is timing based.

Once we get into Week's 5 and 6 these defenses will start getting cooked again.

We shall see

 

[bigde09]

My concern is why do so many teams have such TRASH offensive lines. That’s the real issue. And the lines are trash for multiple years at a time. Take the dolphins - they last time they actually had a decent o line was when the had the bullying scandal. Are linemen that hard to find or is it the coaching?

Bears Panthers. Have the bengals even fixed their line issues?

Dline players are becoming more athletic and smaller but just as strong. Olines haven’t caught up

 

[duckbutta]

Dline players are becoming more athletic and smaller but just as strong. Olines haven’t caught up

Well offensive lines won't catch up because there is something to be gained by defensive linemen to be smaller and agile...what is there to be gained by an offensive lineman by being small and agile?

Micah Parsons is 245 to 250 pounds. Would you try to block him with another man who was 245 to 250 pounds? Would you let your starting tight end block Parsons one on one for an entire game? Of course you wouldn't. You'd probably just try and find the biggest tallest strongest guy you got on your line and say well let's a least make it physically hard to shove this guy around every play. So you will never see a team draft or play the Micah Parsons of offensive linemen. Some guy who is between 240 and 250 pounds and has long arms and is a freak athlete, because high level athleticism doesn't come into play very often when your job is to either shove a man backwards or to keep from getting shoved backwards. You need big fat strong men for that.

Defensive lineman have to shoot the gap sometimes. That takes quickness. Offensive linemen don't.

Defensive lineman have to run twist and stunts that can require them to engage a blocker, stop, run around another man trying to get to the qb next to them, then run in a straight line to try and get to the qb. Offensive linemen don't do that. Most they are going to do is pull on a screen or run play. When was the last time, or the first time, you saw a guard, after the ball was snapped, switch places with a tackle to block a defender? When was the last time you saw a left guard run all the way to the right to block an outside linebacker, unless it was a run play or screen designed specifically for him to do that? You going to have a few plays a game where a defensive end tries to loop around like that on an obvious passing down.

Defensive lineman have to drop back in pass coverage sometimes. Sometimes they are out in space against running backs and receivers. Offensive linemen aren't doing that. Nobody is taking their nickel corners and just putting him over the guard to try and go at him 1 on 1.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Teams don't play offensive starters much in the preseason...due to the money they make ( imagine paying a QB 50 million and he gets hurt in the second preseason game) so the first month of the season is the preseason for most offenses, since a lot of offense is timing based.

Once we get into Week's 5 and 6 these defenses will start getting cooked again.

I don't think preseason matters for most good teams, who are running live scrimmages or joint practices where players get better reps during training camp. It's way more about what defenses are doing, QB reads, etc.

I'm 100% all for the end of the 33 year old white boy "offensive genius" head coach era.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

This is why Shanny is one of the best coaches in football. People talk about his passing schemes and trickery to get receivers open but it's his run scheme that really fukks with defenses. If you can run the ball at will, it opens up everything else.

 

[Mook]

My concern is why do so many teams have such TRASH offensive lines. That’s the real issue. And the lines are trash for multiple years at a time. Take the dolphins - they last time they actually had a decent o line was when the had the bullying scandal. Are linemen that hard to find or is it the coaching?

Bears Panthers. Have the bengals even fixed their line issues?

Panthers line is actually good. Bryce young is tenth in time in the pocket.

 

[DropTopDoc]

Panthers line is actually good. Bryce young is tenth in time in the pocket.

aiiight man

 

[BlackAchilles]

Yeah the lighter personnel on defense is def a trend teams can exploit in the run

Back when I was a kid a lot of off the ball LBs were like 245-250 lbs, now they're like 220-225

 

[FaTaL]

The days of the thick neck, steroid using ass LBs are over

Better learn to cover first, same thing with safties

 

[FaTaL]

Yeah the lighter personnel on defense is def a trend teams can exploit in the run

Back when I was a kid a lot of off the ball LBs were like 245-250 lbs, now they're like 220-225

Especially in bad weather, I don’t see open air stadium teams getting too much smaller though

 

[DropTopDoc]

Yeah the lighter personnel on defense is def a trend teams can exploit in the run

Back when I was a kid a lot of off the ball LBs were like 245-250 lbs, now they're like 220-225

Yeah, but teams run game ain’t what it used to be

 

[Karume]

Is it a structural defect of the sport of football that the offensive line has considerably less flexibility in how it can adapt, both physically and schematically?

 

[Trav]

Gonna need it to deal wit a mf like King Henry slicing thru ya men like Ginsu