Barry Sanders
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their being asked to.
next up Mike Irvin. SMH
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their being asked to.
Taadow
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Barry Sanders
Barry>>>
if they go on a show you think they just gonna wear women clothes? they are being asked to.
Thought he got caught up in a prostitution sting and was about to get fired.
Some people think that's funny, so they willingly emasculate themselves. With some men it's an expression of their latent desire to be female. Rudy Guliani is a perfect example of this. He has dressed as a woman many of times. I just don't think a Black writer who's straight would suggest an athlete dress up as a female for a few chuckles. Irvin may lack a sense of the cultural degradation that exists in the Black community, especially with Black men. If you take the most masculine representation of Black manhood and put them in a dress it does more than just gain a few laughs.
Barry Sanders
Barry>>>
so martin didnt dress up as a woman for a few laughs? everything doesnt need to be critiqued.
Of course he dressed up as a woman. First on his TV show and then in those Big Momma's House movies. But there are levels to this that you're failing to see because you may find it funny. It's a cheap, quick attempt at humor, but if you dig deeper, there's a component that speaks to a bigger issue in terms of how Black men are being portrayed in the media.
Taadow
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How many of them are, since you know so much?
I'll tell you this, it's one thing if it's a sketch that was your idea or you wrote
(which is the case with Dana Carvey, Jim Carrey, and others). It's another thing
if it's something someone else wrote for you to do. Would you agree to that?
Taadow
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He absolutely did...a few times. Difference is:
1. He is a comedian, who did such to be absurd. Fine.
2. ...it was his idea, on his shows/movies to do that.
@Taadow, I'm glad you pointed that out. Because I did miss the point where I said a Black writer wouldn't suggest that to a person. So @Barry Sanders, you gave a good example, but I still leaning towards the athlete, actor who isn't considered a comedian by trade. Even so, I still have a problem with Martin, Tyler Perry etc. who lean on that device as a crutch.
Taadow
The StarchBishop™️
Like I said earlier, I can even understand if someone is doing it to move a story along, or whatever.
The best way I can illustrate it is this:
We know of one time Dave Chappelle didn't do,
and we know of one time he did.
Once you understand why, you can see what i'm saying here.
Barry Sanders
Barry>>>
irvin is comfortable in his skin thats why he did it.
The episode, titled “Dancing in the End Zone,” features a story in which Troy is forced to take a ballet class in order to improve his footwork on the football field.
As he begins to understandably feel emasculated and embarrassed at having to take a ballet class, the great Michael Irvin himself appears to the boy in a dream and shows him that even former pro football players can get behind ballet.
http://fansided.com/2015/02/12/michael-irvin-wearing-tutu-nickelodeon/
irvin just trying to help the kid out in the show. and hakeem olajuwon took ballet to work on his footwork.
and let me ask you question how do you feel when black women are dressed like men? is their a bigger issue there?
Barry Sanders
Barry>>>
no. them guys choose to do it. they dont have to. you looking at from a standpoint that people are doing this to get a laugh at the black man dressing up as women. maybe they chose to do it because they wanted to. have a few laughs let their inner actor out.
Barry Sanders
Barry>>>
if a athlete chooses to do it thats on them. they made the decision to do it. derek jeter dressed up on snl. we all know he got women and money so what his motive for dressing up as a women?