next up Mike Irvin. SMH

[Taadow]

What purpose does this serve:mindblown"

This is my whole thing.

What is the point of you dressing up in drag?

 

[Taadow]

the real funny thing is that irvin doesnt care what you think about him.

i would guess this was done as some sort of comedy

the problem lies with you all caring about image too much. if you cant do something like this without worrying if others will think your gay or something, then you actually might be gay.

Let me ask you this: what is something else that's "like this"?

 

[JahBuhLun]

There are a lot of sick minded white people at these marketing and ad firms who think this stuff is comedy. When really what they are doing is low-key projecting their own subconscious desires on to these Black athletes and entertainers. If you're go-to for laughs is to slap a dress on them or feminize them, then you're not very creative. Black men in the public spot light have a responsibility because they do represent Black men to a certain extent.

 

[Xerces]

The bad thing about that "OUT" magazine cover as well is ok I get it he has a gay brother and is showing support whatever. What was the reasoning for him dressing like he did, though? He couldn't dress in regular clothes for the cover?

 

[OGmittee]

Let me ask you this: what is something else that's "like this"?

Shyt idk, I don't really find dressing up like a woman funny.

The people that find it funny and came up with it could probably come up with something similar

 

[Taadow]

Shyt idk, I don't really find dressing up like a woman funny.

The people that find it funny and came up with it could probably come up with something similar

Thanks for responding.

But what I meant was, what else besides cross-dressing is regular in entertainment that a man might (in your words)
"think about his image too much" by wondering "how will people view me if I do this"?



I mean, I can even understand cross-dressing in the name of comedy. Why? Because (if you let comedy tell it)
it's supposed to be absurd. So hey - if it fits in the narrative of the story and helps move the story along
that a man has to dress as a woman to get something accomplished, fine. Whatever...

...but at this point, it seems to be gratuitous. It seems as though every time there is a chance for
black man comedy (especially in a white space), there's a dress in the closet. That doesn't make you wonder?

 

[Taadow]

There are a lot of sick minded white people at these marketing and ad firms who think this stuff is comedy. When really what they are doing is low-key projecting their own subconscious desires on to these Black athletes and entertainers. If you're go-to for laughs is to slap a dress on them or feminize them, then you're not very creative. Black men in the public spot light have a responsibility because they do represent Black men to a certain extent.

My dude - the bold is it.

There are a million ways for somebody to be funny or attempt humor. But for a black man (in a white space, as I said earlier),
putting them in a dress seems to be the "go-to".

 

[OGmittee]

Thanks for responding.

But what I meant was, what else besides cross-dressing is regular in entertainment that a man might (in your words)
"think about his image too much" by wondering "how will people view me if I do this"?



I mean, I can even understand cross-dressing in the name of comedy. Why? Because (if you let comedy tell it)
it's supposed to be absurd. So hey - if it fits in the narrative of the story and helps move the story along
that a man has to dress as a woman to get something accomplished, fine. Whatever...

...but at this point, it seems to be gratuitous. It seems as though every time there is a chance for
black man comedy (especially in a white space), there's a dress in the closet. That doesn't make you wonder?

I would agree but there's plenty of successful black comics that have never done it. Plus it's not like people can't say no I'm not doing that. Idk Irvins motive behind doing this, I'm sure he has enough money that he could've turned it down tho. Also there's plenty of white comedians that have dressed as women to try to he funny. I don't see it as that much of an issue, just my view.

 

[Taadow]

I would agree but there's plenty of successful black comics that have never done it. Plus it's not like people can't say no I'm not doing that. Idk Irvins motive behind doing this, I'm sure he has enough money that he could've turned it down tho. Also there's plenty of white comedians that have dressed as women to try to he funny. I don't see it as that much of an issue, just my view.

There are plenty of successful black comics that have never done it...but there are
arguably just as many ones who have.

And white comedians have dressed as women also, you are right. But again (like @JahBuhLun said),
it seems like putting black men (not even just comedians) in drag is a "go-to" move.

For example,

- that classic Dave Chappelle interview where he said no to it, and they really tried to convince him to do it...
- Micheal Irvin is not a comedian. Why in this foray into comedy was it suggested to put him in a dress?
- I know Charles Barkley has hosted SNL two times. BOTH times, they dressed him as a woman.
- LeBron James hosted SNL and they put him in a leotard to be a Solid Gold Dancer
- Kevin Hart hosted SNL and they made him a girl. He didn't even have any lines.

those are just examples off-top. I'm sure there are more...

 

[Barry Sanders]

There are plenty of successful black comics that have never done it...but there are
arguably just as many ones who have.

And white comedians have dressed as women also, you are right. But again (like @JahBuhLun said),
it seems like putting black men (not even just comedians) in drag is a "go-to" move.

For example,

- that classic Dave Chappelle interview where he said no to it, and they really tried to convince him to do it...
- Micheal Irvin is not a comedian. Why in this foray into comedy was it suggested to put him in a dress?
- I know Charles Barkley has hosted SNL two times. BOTH times, they dressed him as a woman.
- LeBron James hosted SNL and they put him in a leotard to be a Solid Gold Dancer
- Kevin Hart hosted SNL and they made him a girl. He didn't even have any lines.

those are just examples off-top. I'm sure there are more...

stop making this into a race matter. no one has to dress up as woman if they dont want to.

 

[Taadow]

stop making this into a race matter. no one has to dress up as woman if they dont want to.

Tell them to stop making it a race matter, Jack.

I didn't make the situation - i'm just making the observation...

 

[Barry Sanders]

Tell them to stop making it a race matter, Jack.

I didn't make the situation - i'm just making the observation...

from what i seen all men of all races dressing up as women by their choice. if guys dont want to do it they dont have to.

 

[Taadow]

from what i seen all men of all races dressing up as women by their choice. if guys dont want to do it they dont have to.

That doesn't negate what I said.

My point is: why does it seem like a Black man in the entertainment area is encouraged or goaded to dress up as a woman?

 

[Barry Sanders]

That doesn't negate what I said.

My point is: why does it seem like a Black man in the entertainment area is encouraged or goaded to dress up as a woman?

why are other races asked to do the same?

 

[Taadow]

why are other races asked to do the same?

Are they?