New York Schools Most Segregated in the Nation

[Serious]

This is more of a result of poverty than anything else. There was that NY TImes article last week that pointed out people of color get the worst teachers and the worst schools however.

surprised nobody here posted it

 

[No1]

surprised nobody here posted it here

I saw no need after someone linked to it in TWISM's AA thread.

 

[theworldismine13]

That was tongue in cheek. Anyway, charter schools use tax money. I don't like that.

yeah it hurts to see black kids getting good educations

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

Who the fuk cares if schools are segregated, the problem with segregation from the 50's is that it was government mandated, the key is people should go to whatever school they want to, it's irrelevant what the level of segregation if the parents have a choice

New York is a melting pot but the reality is we tend to stick with our own. My only issue would be the unequal distribution of resources in public schools. That's the thing I would like to see addressed.

 

[lakinta]

not surprised. At this point though, I couldn't care less about the idea of racial integration. That's a concept more than half a century old, which we know was doomed to fail given the abhorrence many whites throughout the US have and continue to have for black people. See protests against busing in the lovely liberal city of Boston.

The whites have rights too

edit: Just hit me that this was the 1970s (and extended to 1984). Those lil kids holding signs are probably 45-50 years old now, not to say anything about all the kids that grew up around this white supremacist culture. They prolly reared their families in the same thinking. Why anyone should seek integration with these folk is beyond me.

 

[theworldismine13]

This is more of a result of poverty than anything else. There was that NY TImes article last week that pointed out people of color get the worst teachers and the worst schools however.

That type of analysis and metric is low key white supremacist, it's basically saying that the white man is so great and powerful that if you sprinkle some white people amongst the negroes the negroes will magically improve

And it basically rejects the notion that black people can achieve black excellence by ourselves

Level of segregation is a bad and antiquated metric to use to measure how black kids are doing

 

[No1]

That type of analysis and metric is low key white supremacist, it's basically saying that the white man is so great and powerful that if you sprinkle some white people amongst the negroes the negroes will magically improve

And it basically rejects the notion that black people can achieve black excellence by ourselves

Level of segregation is a bad and antiquated metric to use to measure how black kids are doing

That's not what that article was about at all. But even if we are talking about integration, the idea of it is much more socioeconomic like what Seattle tried to do before the courts struck it down.

 

[88m3]

The quality of this forum would increase ten fold if half you were able to read.

 

[ORDER_66]

It's very true. Case in point there's this school called louie armstrong in queens and they bus in kids from way outta the neighborhood to come to this school. but yet when i applied there when i moved to queens when i was a kid they wouldnt accept me even with top notch grades because "I wasnt from their district" WTF i lived right across the street! It made no sense they bus white students in that lived so far away when you got plenty of minority black and spanish kids here who want to go to this school.

Also if a school rejects a student because he's not from their district why is this school based all the way in East elmhurst and yet your bussing white kids in from bayside???!? that doesnt make any sense to me, why is that their school when this school is nowhere near where they live?

 

[theworldismine13]

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That's not what that article was about at all. But even if we are talking about integration, the idea of it is much more socioeconomic like what Seattle tried to do before the courts struck it down.

its the entire premise of the headline, we are suppose to be outraged that black kids go to black schools as if that by definition means the schools are bad

it was correct that the seattle plan be struck down, the government needs to stop telling citizens where they can or cannot go to school

 

[theworldismine13]

It's very true. Case in point there's this school called louie armstrong in queens and they bus in kids from way outta the neighborhood to come to this school. but yet when i applied there when i moved to queens when i was a kid they wouldnt accept me even with top notch grades because "I wasnt from their district" WTF i lived right across the street! It made no sense they bus white students in that lived so far away when you got plenty of minority black and spanish kids here who want to go to this school.

Also if a school rejects a student because he's not from their district why is this school based all the way in East elmhurst and yet your bussing white kids in from bayside???!? that doesnt make any sense to me, why is that their school when this school is nowhere near where they live?

are you in elementary school breh?

 

[88m3]

If anything this study shoots a hole in the idea of charter schools and shows that schools should be more integrated.

NY's issue as far as "segregation" are primarily socioeconomic, that is why you're seeing differences in the composition of schools.
Also in NY unlike many places immigrants have stuck together that's why you'll see large numbers of different races primarily making up certain schools.
Also to be completely frank there aren't exactly a lot of white people here.

 

[Serious]

Also to be completely frank there aren't exactly a lot of white people here.

Yeah that's kind of what I took away from the study....

 

[88m3]

Yeah that's kind of what I took away from the study....

I'm happy to hear that, friend.

 

[theworldismine13]

If anything this study shoots a hole in the idea of charter schools and shows that schools should be more integrated.

NY's issue as far as "segregation" are primarily socioeconomic, that is why you're seeing differences in the composition of schools.
Also in NY unlike many places immigrants have stuck together that's why you'll see large numbers of different races primarily making up certain schools.
Also to be completely frank there aren't exactly a lot of white people here.

no it doesnt, its a study that just assumes that black schools do worse, which they usually do, but charters schools are the exception to that, so the fact that charters schools are less integrated but the black students do better means we need more charters schools

we need more charter schools because black kids do better, period, the level of segregation is irrelevant

as far as immigrants, thats whatever, the main thing is they need to stop bilingual education

its irrelevant how many white people are in ny, what important is that the government stop telling people where and how to go to school

personally i went to an all black private school in brooklyn for elementary, it was mostly ran by west indians, and it was a good school, all black schools with black excellence is normal to me and very possible, and charter schools have also shown that you can have black schools with black excellence