New whistleblower comes out with UFO program information to Congress. Program name is called "Immaculate Constellation"

[Rekkapryde]

Which is the unfortunate part… they’ve lied consistently about not just this topic, but others, so the discourse is set up to be “conspiratorial” unfortunately

In the past you were crazy for saying there are UFO’s.. now the government has begrudgingly acknowledged they exist and have a program in place to track them after years of saying otherwise

Exactly. And it was business as usual for the masses.

Government: "Okay UFOs and aliens do exist"

Masses: "Whata this new IG Challenge "

Government:

 

[AngryBaby]

And yet there is no evidence that a single anomalous object has been recorded on any two systems at the same time, ever. Something funning on video can be simple parallax effect. Something funny on radar can be due to targeted jamming or a glitch. So far as we know, no one has EVER seen something definitively non-human based on video and radar at the same time. Absolutely bizarre, considering our capabilities.....unless there was nothng to see.




Do you find it odd that the sightings always seem to match the technology of the era? Before we had planes, no one reported flying saucers or tic tac UFOs in the sky to any serious degree. What few sightings there were usually looked like meteor showers or were described as slow airships....the exact thing that existed with man at the time. Even after planes started, UFO sightings were rare. But once we got jet capabilities, suddenly people started seeing UFOs that just happened to be the same color and size and skinnier sleetness of jets. Experimental jets started flying, and then the UFOs stared doing things like experimental jets. Now we have drones, and - big surprise! - we're seeing little drone UFOs everywhere.

Only constant is that everyone, in every period, has kept mistaking balloons for aliens.

That isn't necessarily true,
First thing that comes to mind is "the battle of straslund" in 1665. Where the fisherman, after reportedly seeing an aerial "battle" also reported:

When, at dusk, “a flat, round shape like a plate” appears above the St. Nicholas Church, they flee. The following day, they find that they are trembling all over and complain of pain.

A description of which isn't representative of technology at the time.

Here's a link: A UFO in 1665

Hell, here's a list of sightings in from Switzerland to Nerumburg to China in the 15-1600's that reported sightings of spherical, triangular and "halo" like objects in the sky. Again, not indicative of the technology at the time

Heres a link: List of reported UFO sightings - Wikipedia

So to say that there weren't any "sightings "pre-plane era that didn't represent technology outside of the time is incorrect.

The flaw in your world view is that, you're analysis always seems to find too much comfort in the idea that everyone in some way shape or form incompetent. Acknowledging a credible source that has already discounted obvious variables like say..the military or pilots, isn't "treating them like gods" and your only retort against them is "they are usually fukk ups" ?

And when David Grusch and others came forward, your conclusion simply was "well David is autistic so he was likely gullible". See a trend here? In a situation where there is a credible source, that should atleast give pause, you are so attached to your world view that you NEED to discount their credibility, in your mind "there is no other way".

You should be more aware of what seems to be an invested interest in this *not* being true on your part, abd how that affects your willingness to accept that you don't know some things.

Are you religious? And do you concede that you were wrong about sightings not describing different technology than what was available in their respective year?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Fermi Paradox

Drake Equation

Kardashev Scale

The Great Filter

The Dark Forest

Biology

Sociology

Physics

Astronomy

vs.

"I saw something strange, therefore, aliens."

​

 

[Professor Emeritus]

That isn't necessarily true,
First thing that comes to mind is "the battle of straslund" in 1665. Where the fisherman, after reportedly seeing an aerial "battle" also reported:

When, at dusk, “a flat, round shape like a plate” appears above the St. Nicholas Church, they flee. The following day, they find that they are trembling all over and complain of pain.

A description of which isn't representative of technology at the time.

Here's a link: A UFO in 1665

Hell, here's a list of sightings in from Switzerland to Nerumburg to China in the 15-1600's that reported sightings of spherical, triangular and "halo" like objects in the sky. Again, not indicative of the technology at the time

Heres a link: List of reported UFO sightings - Wikipedia

So to say that there weren't any "sightings "pre-plane era that didn't represent technology outside of the time is incorrect.

Breh, the ENTIRE LIST for pre-16th century doesn't have a single thing on it that can be interpreted as a modern UFO. This is the entire list:


1. Star came down and set fire to enemies (if not made up, just sounds like a meteor)

2. "Ships in the sky" comes from Titus Levius's lists of superstitious rumours that uneducated people spread directly after "A six-months-old child, of freeborn parents, is said to have shouted "Io Triumphe" in the vegetable market". Besides the fact that even the ancient source doesn't take the reports very seriously, why would a flying saucer be described as a "ship"? Wouldn't it be described as a wheel, a plate, or something else? Why would ancient people even assume that it carried passengers?

3. "Spark from a falling star" - quite obviously another meteor

4. "Huge, flame-like body fell" - another meteor

5. "Chariots hurdling through the clouds" immediately before the Roman-Jewish war - besides the fact that this was Josephus, who liked to interject religious portents into his writing, there is zero reason for anyone to describe a saucer or a triangle as a "chariot"

6. "Fine rain resembling silver" - There isn't even a craft described here, seems like just some mud or chemical contamination that got picked up by a storm

7. "Ships with their crews were seen in the air" - Besides the problem of a flying saucer not looking like a ship, when the fukk have they ever had visible crews? These stories are CLEARLY fanciful myths imagining flying ships, they bear no relation to an actual sighting.



And that's it. That's the entire list you gave for all of human history leading up to the 16th century. A few descriptions of meteors, and a few descriptions of their normal technology (chariots or ships), but just imagining it in the sky. Exactly what I said.


Are you going to claim that ancient people didn't know their basic shapes? That they couldn't describe a circle or a triangle? People ALWAYS describe UFOs in relation to the current technology of the time, they didn't start reporting balloons and blimps until we made balloons and blimps, they didn't start imagining things that resemble jets or drones until we start building jets and drones......which suggests that either they're just seeing the current technology of the time, or they're making it up.

 

[AngryBaby]

Breh, the ENTIRE LIST for pre-16th century doesn't have a single thing on it that can be interpreted as a modern UFO. This is the entire list:


1. Star came down and set fire to enemies (if not made up, just sounds like a meteor)

2. "Ships in the sky" comes from Titus Levius's lists of superstitious rumours that uneducated people spread directly after "A six-months-old child, of freeborn parents, is said to have shouted "Io Triumphe" in the vegetable market". Besides the fact that even the ancient source doesn't take the reports very seriously, why would a flying saucer be described as a "ship"? Wouldn't it be described as a wheel, a plate, or something else? Why would ancient people even assume that it carried passengers?

3. "Spark from a falling star" - quite obviously another meteor

4. "Huge, flame-like body fell" - another meteor

5. "Chariots hurdling through the clouds" immediately before the Roman-Jewish war - besides the fact that this was Josephus, who liked to interject religious portents into his writing, there is zero reason for anyone to describe a saucer or a triangle as a "chariot"

6. "Fine rain resembling silver" - There isn't even a craft described here, seems like just some mud or chemical contamination that got picked up by a storm

7. "Ships with their crews were seen in the air" - Besides the problem of a flying saucer not looking like a ship, when the fukk have they ever had visible crews? These stories are CLEARLY fanciful myths imagining flying ships, they bear no relation to an actual sighting.



And that's it. That's the entire list you gave for all of human history leading up to the 16th century. A few descriptions of meteors, and a few descriptions of their normal technology (chariots or ships), but just imagining it in the sky. Exactly what I said.


Are you going to claim that ancient people didn't know their basic shapes? That they couldn't describe a circle or a triangle? People ALWAYS describe UFOs in relation to the current technology of the time, they didn't start reporting balloons and blimps until we made balloons and blimps, they didn't start imagining things that resemble jets or drones until we start building jets and drones......which suggests that either they're just seeing the current technology of the time, or they're making it up.

I like how you ignored where I specifically sectioned out the description of a saucer in the 1665 article. I pre-emptively knew you would only focus on the ship like descriptions, so I purposely isolated that part out.

Yet you *still* ignored that, and focused only on the things on that article that could be described as a ship. Why? That's dishonest.

And in the wiki page, seeing those triangular or spherical like shapes is indicative of seeing a modern design that ISNT a meteor or a boat in the sky. They say pretty plain as day that they saw spherical or triangular shapes flying in the sky, it's really simple Professor. That matches descriptions of more modern sightings.

Why are you ignoring that they saw a saucer, and modern descriptions? Do you really want to die on the hill that no one in the pre plane era had sightings of a flying object that didn't reflect their time period?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

That isn't necessarily true,
First thing that comes to mind is "the battle of straslund" in 1665.

Hell, here's a list of sightings in from Switzerland to Nerumburg to China in the 15-1600's that reported sightings of spherical, triangular and "halo" like objects in the sky. Again, not indicative of the technology at the time

Your list had just 4 events reported from the entire period from the 1500s to the mid-1800s - three from the wikipedia list plus your accounty of "the battle of straslund". Four events over 350 years, compared to now when there seems to be 400 people claiming they saw something every day. Let's look at those four events.


1609 in Gangwon Province

"Red glowing object that shaped like a long cloth flew from south to north. A loud noise of thunder was in the sky and then stopped."

"An observer was startled by the sound of artillery fire from the edge of the eastern sky. When he looked it up in the sky, a fireball that looked like a haystack was falling into the sky. The place where the fireball passed was like a waterfall with the gates of heaven wide open."

"Strange aerial phenomenon: at midday, a firelight was observed in the sky. It was shaped like a large bowl, and it was formed in the southeast and flew to the north. It was very large and moved like an arrow, but after a long while, the fire-like object gradually dissipated and blue and white smoke appeared and expanded, which started to fly in curve and did not disperse for a long time. The sounds like thunder and drums shook the heavens and earth and then stopped."

There are other more fanciful descriptions, but it's hard to deny that what they're basically talking about is a meteor shower.

There is one other account from Gangwon that is often used to claim UFOs, coincidentally from the exact same year as the obvious meteors, but it goes beyond ridiculous:

Mun-wi Kim, a rank official, saw a shiny round object resembling a washbasin floating midair in the middle of his house garden. Its movement at first was as if it's about to crash to the ground, but soon it went up by about one Jang (10' or 3 meters) as if some kind of Qi (energy) was present in the air.

The object was about an armful in size and about half Pil (3' or 1m) in length, white color on the east side, glowing blue in the center, and red on the west side. When Kim looked at it, it started to fold like a rainbow, which resembled a rolled flag.

Then it started to ascend and halfway up in the air, it turned red all over with the top of the head pointed and the lower roots cut off. Immediately, it moved a little towards north and turned into white clouds, which were clear and beautiful to see. Then it flew into the sky very fast as if it were attracted to the sky, crashing into the sky as if it were spitting out energy.

Suddenly it was split into two pieces from the middle, one flew southeast and disappeared like smoke and the other still floating where it was, but the shape looked like a square cushion. After a while, there were several thundering sounds, and then a sound like stones rolling and drumming, and it stopped after a long while.

So he saw a red white and blue flag about 3 feet long in the middle of his garden, that could fold like a rainbow, that then rose and turned red all over, then turned into beautiful white clouds, then flew into the sky and split into two pieces with one piece flying away, then made a bunch of crazy noises.

That sounds NOTHING like a modern UFO sighting. It sounds like a bunch of random shyt thrown together that someone made up.



Here is the actual text of the Nuremburg event:

"In the morning of April 14, 1561, at daybreak, between 4 and 5 a.m., a dreadful apparition occurred on the sun, and then this was seen in Nuremberg in the city, before the gates and in the country – by many men and women. At first there appeared in the middle of the sun two blood-red semi-circular arcs, just like the moon in its last quarter. And in the sun, above and below and on both sides, the color was blood, there stood a round ball of partly dull, partly black ferrous color. Likewise there stood on both sides and as a torus about the sun such blood-red ones and other balls in large number, about three in a line and four in a square, also some alone. In between these globes there were visible a few blood-red crosses, between which there were blood-red strips, becoming thicker to the rear and in the front malleable like the rods of reed-grass, which were intermingled, among them two big rods, one on the right, the other to the left, and within the small and big rods there were three, also four and more globes. These all started to fight among themselves, so that the globes, which were first in the sun, flew out to the ones standing on both sides, thereafter, the globes standing outside the sun, in the small and large rods, flew into the sun. Besides the globes flew back and forth among themselves and fought vehemently with each other for over an hour. And when the conflict in and again out of the sun was most intense, they became fatigued to such an extent that they all, as said above, fell from the sun down upon the earth 'as if they all burned' and they then wasted away on the earth with immense smoke. After all this there was something like a black spear, very long and thick, sighted; the shaft pointed to the east, the point pointed west. "

Here is the actual text of the Basil event:

"During the year 1566, on the 27th of July, after the sun had shone warm on the clear, bright skies, and then around 9 pm, it suddenly took a different shape and color. First, the sun lost all its radiance and luster, and it was no bigger than the full moon, and finally it seemed to weep tears of blood and the air behind him went dark. And he was seen by all the people of the city and countryside. In much the same way also the moon, which has already been almost full and has shone through the night, assuming an almost blood-red color in the sky. The next day, Sunday, the sun rose at about six o'clock and slept with the same appearance it had when it was lying before. He lit the houses, streets and around as if everything was blood-red and fiery. At the dawn of August 7, we saw large black spheres coming and going with great speed and precision before the sun and chattered as if they led a fight. Many of them were fiery red and, soon crumbled and then extinguished."

Notice, once again, that those accounts sound nothing like modern UFO events. Both of them are completely focused on the sun, involve the sun changing shape, and then start talking about hundreds of objects of all sorts of shapes coming out of the sun. Because of the mention of arcs and crosses, many people think it could be a very fanciful, exaggerated description of a sundog event

Notice the dimming of the sun, exactly like the account, the two red arcs coming out, exactly like the account, and the cross shapes. It's not an exact match, but it's a much closer match than the modern UFOs.



That's the entire list from your link for the 1500s-1600s, and this isn't even ONE account that sounds anything like a modern UFO sighting.

 

[Dzali OG]

Fermi Paradox

Drake Equation

Kardashev Scale

The Great Filter

The Dark Forest

Biology

Sociology

Physics

Astronomy

vs.

"I saw something strange, therefore, aliens."

​

But it can't be discounted that they indeed saw something strange. Maybe it wasn't aliens...but it was something strange.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I'm finding very little real information on your 1665 Straslund event. It's repeated by UFO buffs but none of them seem to have the original text or an original translation. This reporting on the event points out that problem and others, like the fact that one small group of 6 fishermen were the only ones who reported seeing anything even though it was supposedly a big battle over the whole city, these same fishermen saw the giant battle event AND the completely separate later disk event, and the "disk" they reported seems to have been merely the size of a man's hat, which supposedly hung over the church for hours, but no one other than them saw it. And then it acknowledges that all the men were ill (but, apparently, no one else in the city was even though they were all there too).

This account suggests that there's a rather pedestrian, easier explanation. Maybe the men were just....ill?

Did UFOs Buzz Stralsund on April 8, 1665?

In the current (June 2015) issue of Edge Science magazine, Chris Aubeck and Martin Shough published an excerpt from their forthcoming book, Return to Magonia (Anomalist Books). In the article, the...

www.jasoncolavito.com

Let me take a stab at this. We have a few key facts: (1) According to all the texts the authors present, the only witnesses were six sailors on a boat. (2) No one else saw anything, despite an epic sky battle apparently occurring over a major city. (3) The sailors all came down with the physical symptoms of disease within 48 hours of witnessing the event, and indeed one had been sick from the time they returned, according to a Berlin account of April 10, 1665 (how it was reported so fast in Berlin, I have no idea; the authors give the text, like many in the piece, uncredited from a translation of Illobrand Von Ludwiger appearing on page 3 of his book). Occam’s razor would tell us that the most logical conclusion is that the fisherman had some spoiled food and gave themselves some bizarre pre-modern illness (or otherwise contracted a contagion from their sicker friend, bad fish, contaminated water or beer, or whatever), and hallucinated the whole thing, egging each other on as they ranted about their various visions, whose shapes and colors—generated from the common stock of visions from altered states of consciousness—they interpreted through their own cultural experience, namely portents, battles, and boats. This solution elegantly accounts for all the facts, omits none (as Aubeck and Shough ignore the battling ships), and requires fewer assumptions, least of all any about the sighting “causing” illness in witnesses.

 

[The Dust King]

can't change the frame to something by Steven Spielberg and call it a 'challenge'.​

i realize on this topic you and @Professor Emeritus are skeptics and i accept that

but that leap of logic yall did was disengenous

claiming aliens would destroy us is as speilberg as it gets smh lol

 

[Silver Surfer]

I love how these guys always "reveal" stuff that everyone already knows

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

But it can't be discounted that they indeed saw something strange. Maybe it wasn't aliens...but it was something strange.

You can't conclude extraterrestrials based on "I don't know what that is."​

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Notice that I've now covered EVERY event listed in his links before the 1800s. Half the events were clearly astrological phenomena, and the other half sounded like made-up stuff based on their own contemporary technology. Not a single one of them sounded like a modern account of a flying saucer, a tic tac, or a triangle-shaped UFO - even the one account that had those shapes including many others and talked about hundreds of objects flying out of the sun and then crashing to Earth.


What about the 1800s? Your link had only four events listed for the 1800s:


The 1803 Japan event (from a period when Japan had completely closed themselves off from Europe), just sounds like a silly fantasy of a European woman.


The 1883 sunspot event is most often interpreted to have been a comet breaking apart.

Was the "First Photographed UFO" a Comet?

[/caption] On August 12th, 1883, Mexican astronomer José Bonilla was preparing to study the Sun at the recently opened Zacatecas Observatory. However, the Sun’s surface was marred by numerous objects quickly travelling across its disk. Over the course of the day and the next, Bonilla exposed...

www.universetoday.com

The 1896-97 California events are borderline hilarious. It's made to sound like a blimp (which were being proposed and in the process of being invented at that moment) and it had a crew of four who spoke English. It's difficult to tell how much is the result of hysteria and people just saying shyt. Notice that the first descriptions of the object say it is cigar-shaped with winglike propellers or fanlike wheels rotating rapidly - exactly like the blimps that were being proposed. Something that is moving slowly and "rising and descending to avoid roofs" is not a modern UFO.

Close Encounters Of The Earliest Kind

During November of 1896 the United States experienced its first publicized UFO flap, and it is perhaps not surprising that it should have occurred in Califo (Issue: December 1979)..

www.americanheritage.com

In any case, between six and seven o’clock “hundreds of people” on the streets noticed “an electric arc lamp propelled by some mysterious force” coming from the Northeast and traveling southwesterly. Moving slowly over K Street, it could be seen for most of an hour, rising and descending to avoid roofs and steeples.

Quoted witnesses included people “not addicted to prevarication.” Two officers of the Central Electrical Street Railway Company, the company’s carbarn foreman, three car-men, the passengers of the G Street car, the constables at East Park and Oak Park, a horse trainer, a brewer, “a gentleman,” and the mayor’s daughter all saw it. Combining their varied descriptions of the sight, we read that the “travelling light” or “airship” fluctuated from fifty to two thousand feet above the ground, swaying as it traveled against the wind. It was cigar—or egg-shaped with winglike propellers or fanlike wheels revolving rapidly, with a dark and tall but otherwise indistinguishable mass on its top, and a doubly powerful arc light at its bottom center. And if one cynic thought this lamp was nothing more than the ghost of Diogenes wasting his time seeking an honest man “around the state capitol,” nearly all the observers noticed a four-man crew, which was variously heard shouting, laughing, and singing—“not the whispering of angels, nor the sepulchral mutterings of evil spirits, but the intelligible words and merry laughter of humans.” Several people who shouted up an inquiry as to destination were answered “San Francisco before midnight.”

Despite all these sightings, the airship craze produced only three reports of contact with the ship’s passengers. At Camptonville (Yuba County) William Bull Meek described the craft’s landing on his property. He went on to say that he had a pleasant chat with the pilot, a bearded man, who told him that the ship “had come from the Montezuma Mountains.”

A San Jose electrician, John A. H’f6ren, claimed to have been enlisted by the ship’s pilots to make some repairs on the craft. Upon completing the job in an empty field near Bolinas, he was rewarded by a flight to Hawaii; the craft made the forty-four-hundred-mile trip in twenty-four hours. Later his wife cast serious doubt on the story by telling reporters he had been asleep in bed on the night of the trip.

And at Pacific Grove, two fishermen, Giuseppe Valinziano and Luigi Valdivia, said that they had a long conversation with the airship’s three-man crew after the sixty-foot-long craft landed on a nearby beach.

The Aurora, Texas sightings of 1897 aren't any more believable:

So a cigar-shaped UFO was only going 10-12 mph, slowly descending, until it crashed into a windmill which destroyed it. Imagine an interstellar craft being knocked to pieces from hitting a windmill at 10mph.

Once again, it looks at acts far more like their contemporary technology (a dirigible or blimp) than any modern UFO sighting.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

i realize on this topic you and @Professor Emeritus are skeptics and i accept that

but that leap of logic yall did was disengenous

claiming aliens would destroy us is as speilberg as it gets smh lol

No, that's based on observed behavior of life.....







.....and human history is replete with instances of exactly that type of behavior.

Meanwhile, you're claiming that extraterrestrials not only exist, but they don't act like any other life and can somehow manipulate time and space with NO evidence for either claim.

Who's being disingenuous?
​

 

[AngryBaby]

Your list had just 4 events reported from the entire period from the 1500s to the mid-1800s - three from the wikipedia list plus your accounty of "the battle of straslund". Four events over 350 years, compared to now when there seems to be 400 people claiming they saw something every day. Let's look at those four events.

Lol do you expect me to list every account in history? How many examples do I need to give you? This is a silly and pointless thing to say.

1609 in Gangwon Province




There are other more fanciful descriptions, but it's hard to deny that what they're basically talking about is a meteor shower.

There is one other account from Gangwon that is often used to claim UFOs, coincidentally from the exact same year as the obvious meteors, but it goes beyond ridiculous:




So he saw a red white and blue flag about 3 feet long in the middle of his garden, that could fold like a rainbow, that then rose and turned red all over, then turned into beautiful white clouds, then flew into the sky and split into two pieces with one piece flying away, then made a bunch of crazy noises.

That sounds NOTHING like a modern UFO sighting. It sounds like a bunch of random shyt thrown together that someone made up.



Here is the actual text of the Nuremburg event:




Here is the actual text of the Basil event:




Notice, once again, that those accounts sound nothing like modern UFO events. Both of them are completely focused on the sun, involve the sun changing shape, and then start talking about hundreds of objects of all sorts of shapes coming out of the sun. Because of the mention of arcs and crosses, many people think it could be a very fanciful, exaggerated description of a sundog event

Notice the dimming of the sun, exactly like the account, the two red arcs coming out, exactly like the account, and the cross shapes. It's not an exact match, but it's a much closer match than the modern UFOs.



That's the entire list from your link for the 1500s-1600s, and this isn't even ONE account that sounds anything like a modern UFO sighting.

Again, there isn't one? I'll follow up with what you said about the other sighting in a bit. But you AGAIN deliberately left out that in the 1665 sighting and the saucer. That's dishonest. All I need is one example, that's why I'm surprised you're dying on this hill, indicating your vested interest in being "right" rather than having a discussion.

Why are you deliberately leaving out the 1665 saucer? You claimed they only saw meteors and boats. Or technology from the time. That contradicts that.

You are twisting yourself into a pretzel on order to avoid conceding you were wrong. And again...this isn't a hill you want to die on from a debate standpoint....

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The flaw in your world view is that, you're analysis always seems to find too much comfort in the idea that everyone in some way shape or form incompetent.

Sorry, but it's part of the human condition that people are prone to error. I HIGHLY recommend you read "Thinking, Fast and Slow" by Daniel Kahneman. Kahneman is one of the planet's most highly-respected figures in 20th-century psychology AND 20th-century economics, and he won his Nobel Prize for being able to show how every human being is prone to certain errors merely due to the manner in which our brains work.

That's why eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable. You can't just believe everything that someone says. It's why I put far more weight on actual physical evidence than on people telling stories.

Aren't you bothered by the fact that people keep claiming they see things which no video or camera equipment ever shows, even though our eyes work by collecting the same photons that cameras and videos do?

Acknowledging a credible source that has already discounted obvious variables like say..the military or pilots, isn't "treating them like gods"

Claiming that they are different from other humans and can't make simple mistakes is treating them like gods. ALL humans are prone to making mistakes.

And when David Grusch and others came forward, your conclusion simply was "well David is autistic so he was likely gullible". See a trend here?

Notice that others HAVEN'T come forward. Not a single person with actual firsthand evidence of the things Grusch claims has come forward. Isn't it bizarre that he claims 40 different people with direct evidence have told him these things, yet he's the only one who is talking? Why isn't it fair to point out that people on the autism spectrum are more prone to believing people?

In a situation where there is a credible source, that should atleast give pause

Why?

If you go to India, you will find famous politicians and PhD scientists who claim that holy cow urine will cure COVID (or cancer, or AIDS, or anything else) and ascribe magical powers to Hindu idols. If you go to Latin America or Southern Europe, you will find people of substantial success who believe in the power of touching religious icons. Anywhere in the world you'll find people who believe in ghosts, or seances, or palm readers, or astrology. Am I supposed to pause and give weight to their word-of-mouth claims EVERY time I hear a dumb, unlikely story?

People mistake things for other shyt all the time. And people make up shyt all the time. With a LONG human history of millions of examples of people making errors in these exact situations......I'm not going to waste my time believing something just because 1 more person is saying, "Trust me bro!"

Bring. Evidence. Or. It. Looks. Like. More. Bullshyt.