New whistleblower comes out with UFO program information to Congress. Program name is called "Immaculate Constellation"

[Jean Jacket]

I'm sure Black Holes got something to do with this.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

And in more news congress in both houses will have even more UFO public hearings in a month. Somebody please tell them coli poster @Professor Emeritus thinks it’s all bullshyt and should go away. Why won’t they listen to him?

I posted an Iraq War Veteran Medic story talking about something that happened fairly recent… both land and sea… on the fukking battlefield he was on. Listen to who he speaks on

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

This 'discussion' needs a bit of perspective......

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[Professor Emeritus]

And in more news congress in both houses will have even more UFO public hearings in a month. Somebody please tell them coli poster @Professor Emeritus thinks it’s all bullshyt and should go away. Why won’t they listen to him?

You say this as if Congress hasn't had 1,211 bullshyt hearings in the last 15 years.

Didn't we have Hunter Biden laptop hearings, John Durham witchhunt hearings, Fake Rigged Election hearings, and an endless string of "Obamagate" and "Hillarygate" hearings that constantly amounted to nothing?

David Grusch roped people into this because he convinced them that somehow, at some point, he might be able to show that the DOD is hiding something. And if he does, the most likely option is that they're hiding a top secret retrieval program to recover top secret craft, NOT alien craft and not anything that violates the known laws of physics or anything like that. Congress is interested in DOD secrecy and programs operating outside of its authority, not just aliens.

You have zero evidence that the hearings are based on anything more substantial than that, which is why you've been hyping "There's going to be another hearing!" for four years now even though literally nothing new has come out of any of them.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Hey @Rhakim… I refuse to call you a professor

But since you are a religious nut, check this vid out. I have it timestamped, but whole thing is interesting from beginning.

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

This is ridiculous, accredited scientists and researchers are holding a UFO symposium. Why would a Stanford researcher who was a potential Nobel prize winner and cancer researcher be the chair of the UFO symposium? Why doesn’t anyone listen to esteemed coli poster @Professor Emeritus and realize this is all bullshyt made up fantasy stuff? I mean he’s read more books than anybody on the coli on the subject. Surely his opinion should count for something?

Sol’s 2024 Symposium – The Sol Foundation

thesolfoundation.org

Organized by Sol’s board of directors, Dr. Garry Nolan, Dr. Peter Skafish, and Jonathan Berte, the symposium features them as speakers as well as other prominent and new UAP voices, including:

Yoshiharu Asakawa, General Secretary of the UAP Caucus, Parliament of Japan
Dr. Eric Davis, theoretical and applied physicist, Earthtech, formerly the Aerospace
Corporation
Dr. Stephen Finley, Chair of African and African American Studies, Louisiana State University
Rear Admiral (ret.) Dr. Tim Gallaudet, former administrator, National Ocean and Atmospheric Administration
Ryan Graves, Executive Director, Americans for Safe Aerospace
Leslie Kean, journalist and author, UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record
Kirk McConnell, staff member (retired), Senate Armed Services Committee
Eric Shrock, former Deputy Director, Technology Development and Integration, Lockheed Martin
Dr. Jacques Vallée, computer scientist and author, Passport to Magonia and The Invisible College
Dr. Beatriz Villarroel, astronomer, the Vanishing and Appearing Sources during a Century of Observations (VASCO) Project
Rizwan Virk, entrepreneur and investor, founder of Play Labs at MIT, and author of Startup Myths and Modelsand The Simulation Hypothesis
Dr. Alexander Wendt, Mershon Professor of International Security and Professor of
Political Science at The Ohio State University

 

[O.T.I.S.]

This is ridiculous, accredited scientists and researchers are holding a UFO symposium. Why would a Stanford researcher who was a potential Nobel prize winner and cancer researcher be the chair of the UFO symposium? Why doesn’t anyone listen to esteemed coli poster @Professor Emeritus and realize this is all bullshyt made up fantasy stuff? I mean he’s read more books than anybody on the coli on the subject. Surely his opinion should count for something?

Sol’s 2024 Symposium – The Sol Foundation

thesolfoundation.org

They've made movies based off events for some of the people in this list

 

[Professor Emeritus]

This is ridiculous, accredited scientists and researchers are holding a UFO symposium. Why would a Stanford researcher who was a potential Nobel prize winner and cancer researcher be the chair of the UFO symposium? Why doesn’t anyone listen to esteemed coli poster @Professor Emeritus and realize this is all bullshyt made up fantasy stuff? I mean he’s read more books than anybody on the coli on the subject. Surely his opinion should count for something?

Sol’s 2024 Symposium – The Sol Foundation

thesolfoundation.org

The majority of the people on that list (8 out of 15) aren't even scientists.

Of the 7 people on the list who are even involved with STEM, 2 are computer programmers (didn't you tell me that computer programmers like Mick West know nothing about UFOs?), one is an immunologist, and one is an oceanographer. In other words, the four of them have professions that don't have jack shyt to do with UFOs and are only involved in UFOs as a hobby on the side.


That brings us to 3 people.

Dr. Beatriz Villarroel, a postdoc in astronomy who searches for alien signatures in distant stars. So far as I know, she's never made any claims whatsoever about aliens visiting Earth.

Dr. Eric Davis, a quack who works for fringe UFO/paranormal groups like the "Institute for Advanced Studies" and "National Institute for Discovery Science". He's been doing the UFO circuits for decades and always makes fantastic claims that he can never prove.

Eric Shrock, a researcher at Lockheed Martin. From the bio they posted, it seems like he's there to argue that UAPs may simply be advanced human technology and not alien in nature.




That's it. In your effort to prove that the scientific community believes in UFOs, you posted a conference headlining 8 people who aren't scientists, 4 who were in totally unrelated fields that have nothing to do with UFOs, 2 who don't aren't even cosigning any ideas about aliens on Earth, and 1 well-established quack.

Thank you for helping prove my point better than I could.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

“A True Skeptic is actually a True Believer, just in their own narrative”

 

[Professor Emeritus]

That ship is an even blurrier video than the usual blurry UFO videos. If he wasn't narrating, you wouldn't have a clue what the supposed "UFO" was in the picture.


In terms of the "metallic orbs", even single video that has been released so far is consistent with a balloon drifting in a straight line at the prevailing wind speed. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the sightings are drones and not balloons, but for all the hype there hasn't been even ONE video of an "orb" doing the crazy things that these random people claim they can do.

It's quite a coincidence that these "silver orbs" started worrying us at the exact same time that middle eastern insurgents began employing mylar balloons en masse on the battlefield. Even more of a coincidence that the "silver orbs" have been concentrated...wait for it....on those exact same middle eastern regions where insurgents just happen to be using balloons. The Department of Defense already acknowledged that the large majority of silver orb claims are explained by balloons.

ISIS – From Balloons to Drones

Posts about ISIS written by Ross

balloonstodrones.com

Dousing the flames: Israel battles Gaza fire balloon blazes

In a burnt and blackened wheat field along the Gaza border, Israeli firefighters brave the dry summer heat to extinguish blazes caused by fire balloons launched from the Palestinian enclave.

www.reuters.com

Syrian rebels use kid's balloons filled with explosives to target Russian jets

Children have also been filmed preparing balloons filled with helium and metallic parts attached to confused the weapon's systems of the Russians

www.mirror.co.uk

Gaza Balloons A Bursting Terror Problem | HonestReporting

What kind of parent tells their child that they cannot play with balloons, kites, balls, or toy airplanes? Either horrible, mean parents or loving, Gaza balloons endanger Israeli children and cause massive environmental damage.

honestreporting.com

Hamas official threatens more explosive balloons into Israel

Recent incendiary attacks launched by disgruntled individuals, not terror group, official claims, but are signals to Israel to pick up pace of informal truce talks

www.timesofisrael.com

Startup Nation unites to seek solution to Palestinian terror balloons

Mini-hackathon on Friday organized by tech incubator SouthUp calls for ideas to help counter flying incendiary devices launched from Gaza into Israel

www.timesofisrael.com

ISIS deploy DORA THE EXPLORER balloons to spy on enemies

DESPERATE Islamic state have resorted to using children’s cartoon character Dora the Explorer balloons to spy on enemies as their resources dwindle.

www.express.co.uk

It's bizarre how often these aliens jump on human trends. fukking clout chasers.

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

The majority of the people on that list (8 out of 15) aren't even scientists.

Of the 7 people on the list who are even involved with STEM, 2 are computer programmers (didn't you tell me that computer programmers like Mick West know nothing about UFOs?), one is an immunologist, and one is an oceanographer. In other words, the four of them have professions that don't have jack shyt to do with UFOs and are only involved in UFOs as a hobby on the side.


That brings us to 3 people.

Dr. Beatriz Villarroel, a postdoc in astronomy who searches for alien signatures in distant stars. So far as I know, she's never made any claims whatsoever about aliens visiting Earth.

Dr. Eric Davis, a quack who works for fringe UFO/paranormal groups like the "Institute for Advanced Studies" and "National Institute for Discovery Science". He's been doing the UFO circuits for decades and always makes fantastic claims that he can never prove.

Eric Shrock, a researcher at Lockheed Martin. From the bio they posted, it seems like he's there to argue that UAPs may simply be advanced human technology and not alien in nature.




That's it. In your effort to prove that the scientific community believes in UFOs, you posted a conference headlining 8 people who aren't scientists, 4 who were in totally unrelated fields that have nothing to do with UFOs, 2 who don't aren't even cosigning any ideas about aliens on Earth, and 1 well-established quack.

Thank you for helping prove my point better than I could.

I’m sorry I didn’t realize that there were degrees in UFO studies. This is the exact reason why you could never succeed in a scientific field. You have a myopic view of things and it goes against the basic tenets of science that we learn as students. Ridicule is not part of the scientific method, and it should not be taught that it is, so I could never fully respect your opinion on this topic. But you esteemed professor emeritus, who is neither professor nor emeritus have read more books on the subject that anyone else on the Coli, so please tell us what you conclude. Let me help you. You come to a conclusion and search for evidence to support those facts. That only works for forums, not logical scientific discussions. This topic is a multidisciplinary field that requires data scientists, computer, programmers, physical scientists, philosophers, and all educational facets to understand the complexity of the topic.

Discount the fact that Gary Nolan, the immunologist you casually dismiss, has stated in interviews that he has studied brain scans of individuals that have had UAP encounters and have shown evidence of white matter damage in their brains, as well as done work into the caudate putamen, which may have a connection to UAP. Research that he has done, I might add, in conjunction with Harvard scientists. Also discount Jacques Vallee, who is a computer scientist who worked on project blue book, one of the original UAP studies along with Dr. J Allen Hynek.

As far as oceanographers, that would be important because there have been a multitude of reports of not only aerial phenomena, but also under sea phenomena, so it would make sense to have people who study the ocean to provide further insight into that.

Discount Eric Davis all you want, but the reality is out of all of us, and all the books you read on this topic, he’s the only one that has actually testified the Congress on this topic and still holds top-secret classifications. At the end of the day, your arguments really hold no merit. This is why I told the mods to close the thread. Talking with you is just a ridiculous circular argument that literally does no benefit to anyone. I look at the data and present what information is available and you search for conclusions and try to find evidence to support your argument. Regardless of the topic, having discussions with people like yourself really serves no purpose. It only serves the waste time. Matter fact I’ve literally wasted too much time as is.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

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You have a myopic view of things and it goes against the basic tenets of science that we learn as students. Ridicule is not part of the scientific method, and it should not be taught that it is, so I could never fully respect your opinion on this topic.

You've tried to use ridicule repeatedly in this discussion, hypocrite.

Besides, you should know that ridicule is a time-honored practice in science whether it belongs or not.

Discount the fact that Gary Nolan, the immunologist you casually dismiss, has stated in interviews that he has studied brain scans of individuals that have had UAP encounters and have shown evidence of white matter damage in their brains, as well as done work into the caudate putamen, which may have a connection to UAP.

People who make up these stories often have brain damage?

I thought you were going to tell us something we didn't know.

I look at the data and present what information is available and you search for conclusions and try to find evidence to support your argument. Regardless of the topic, having discussions with people like yourself really serves no purpose. It only serves the waste time. Matter fact I’ve literally wasted too much time as is.

You have neither presented nor analyzed any data in this entire discussion. I am the ONLY person who has presented actual analyzed data. You just keep posting names and claims. And you have completely ignored every bit of data I have presented, which is why the discussion goes nowhere.

Research that he has done, I might add, in conjunction with Harvard scientists. Also discount Jacques Vallee, who is a computer scientist who worked on project blue book, one of the original UAP studies along with Dr. J Allen Hynek.

As far as oceanographers, that would be important because there have been a multitude of reports of not only aerial phenomena, but also under sea phenomena, so it would make sense to have people who study the ocean to provide further insight into that.

Discount Eric Davis all you want, but the reality is out of all of us, and all the books you read on this topic, he’s the only one that has actually testified the Congress on this topic and still holds top-secret classifications. At the end of the day, your arguments really hold no merit. This is why I told the mods to close the thread. Talking with you is just a ridiculous circular argument that literally does no benefit to anyone.

The point was that you were trying to use that conference as proof that the "authorities" in science took it seriously. But the people in the actual relevant fields weren't even present at your conference. If you want to prove that scientists think UAPs are otherworldly, beyond our technology, breaking the laws of physics as we know them, etc., then wouldn't you have ONE physicist or engineer from an accredited institution who believes that?

It's a "ridiculous circular argument" because you refuse to discuss the actual evidence and instead have engaged in a CONSTANT attempt to use "argument from authority".

You keep screaming "science science science", but instead of actually using science, you say, "Look! Look! If these people are talking about it than it must be true!" Which is the silliest way to believe anything. Would you use the same logic to argue for 9/11 conspiracies, Covid conspiracies, election fraud, or literally any other fringe topic that people can find 1-2% of the experts to be contrarians on?

You can't keep screaming "But I have these authorities on my side!" while ignoring that 99% of the authorities are on the opposite side.

 

[Geordi]

I’m sorry I didn’t realize that there were degrees in UFO studies. This is the exact reason why you could never succeed in a scientific field. You have a myopic view of things and it goes against the basic tenets of science that we learn as students. Ridicule is not part of the scientific method, and it should not be taught that it is, so I could never fully respect your opinion on this topic. But you esteemed professor emeritus, who is neither professor nor emeritus have read more books on the subject that anyone else on the Coli, so please tell us what you conclude. Let me help you. You come to a conclusion and search for evidence to support those facts. That only works for forums, not logical scientific discussions. This topic is a multidisciplinary field that requires data scientists, computer, programmers, physical scientists, philosophers, and all educational facets to understand the complexity of the topic.

Discount the fact that Gary Nolan, the immunologist you casually dismiss, has stated in interviews that he has studied brain scans of individuals that have had UAP encounters and have shown evidence of white matter damage in their brains, as well as done work into the caudate putamen, which may have a connection to UAP. Research that he has done, I might add, in conjunction with Harvard scientists. Also discount Jacques Vallee, who is a computer scientist who worked on project blue book, one of the original UAP studies along with Dr. J Allen Hynek.

As far as oceanographers, that would be important because there have been a multitude of reports of not only aerial phenomena, but also under sea phenomena, so it would make sense to have people who study the ocean to provide further insight into that.

Discount Eric Davis all you want, but the reality is out of all of us, and all the books you read on this topic, he’s the only one that has actually testified the Congress on this topic and still holds top-secret classifications. At the end of the day, your arguments really hold no merit. This is why I told the mods to close the thread. Talking with you is just a ridiculous circular argument that literally does no benefit to anyone. I look at the data and present what information is available and you search for conclusions and try to find evidence to support your argument. Regardless of the topic, having discussions with people like yourself really serves no purpose. It only serves the waste time. Matter fact I’ve literally wasted too much time as is.

What do you believe will be the end result of all this, the government will finally say "you got us" and the Klingons walk out at a press conference? They show us where they are hiding all the UFOs?

 

[O.T.I.S.]

What do you believe will be the end result of all this, the government will finally say "you got us" and the Klingons walk out at a press conference? They show us where they are hiding all the UFOs?

Everything that begins will end..

The facade ends, and nikkas who think like you struggle with reality

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Everything that begins will end..

The facade ends, and nikkas who think like you struggle with reality

How many years of this not happening will you wait to go by before you would accept that you were wrong?



Here's my prediction. On literally every time frame (2 years, 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, etc.), the government will:

1. Not produce any crafts built by NHI
2. Not state that they have recovered any crafts built by NHI*
3. Not produce any alien bodies
4. Not state that they have contacted any alien beings
5. Never produce any hard evidence of crafts doing anything that manmade crafts cannot do.
6. Will not produce any clear video of a craft that is not manmade (and confirmed not to be AI-generated video)
7. Will not produce any multi-source proof (such as video + radar, infrared + radar, etc.) of a craft that is doing something manmade craft can't do
8. Not announce the definitive existence of ETs or any other NHI that have visited Earth.


* This excludes, of course, any future craft built by AI that we ourselves have designed.



There remains the remote possibility that aliens will contact us at some point in the future, and thus my prediction would be technically wrong. But I find it extremely unlikely that this would happen in my lifetime when there's no meaningful evidence that it has happened in thousands of years of human civilization, and when the distances between us and them are so insurmountable. And I am virtually certain (99.99% or higher) that it has not happened already, based on what I know of physics in addition to what I know of human governments and human nature.