NEW: Trump wants Gaza to be completely removed and move Palestinians elsewhere — "Palestinians have no alternative but to leave Gaza”

[Mister Terrific]

Lesson to be learned from all this.

"don't treat a polician like they oppose you simply because they are trying but not yet delivering"

Biden was attempting to negiatate cease fires and aid to palestine the whole time. And every trying to prevent israel from using the weapons against Gaza. While maintaining our alliance with Israel. Protestors called him a murderer as a result and got Trump elected.
Now Trump is trying to cease all aid to palestine, allow Israel to use the weapons however they want, and wants to relocated all the palestinians.

Do treat people like opposition simply because they are unable to solve your problem overnight. Support them if they are trying to work torwards the goal you want, not only if they are successful. Because clearly things can always be worse,

This is supposing these people want what’s best for Palestinians or America.

Tankie - Wikipedia

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They hate the west and hate America. The Palestinian cause is just what they latch onto to further their accelerationism

Accelerationism - Wikipedia

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They want the destruction of the west. As to why they use terms like “settler colony” and “systems” and “empire”

They believe the US and by extension the West is fundamentally illegitimate and should be destroyed. At the beginning of the Ukraine conflict they supported Russia. At the beginning of the Syrian conflict they supported Assad. They support China and basically any state opposed to America no matter how vile


African immigrants like Seoul Gleou annd Nkrumah was right are the sons of failed sons who fled to America. They rationalize this trauma, guilt and feelings of statelessness by playing twitter revolutionary. Is why the Trump administration made it a point of targeting foreign students at these protests as many of them are not US citizens.


They have no skin in America as to why they are comfortable with the sufferings of Black Americans as being apart of the empire they too are the enemy.

 

[THE 101]

So what Trump is now doing isn’t worse?

This was the Zionist goal from day one. Wait, do you think Israel weren't already planning this under Biden? We already know that Biden and Harris don't tell Netanyahu no. The DNC is filled with Zionist stooges. The plan was always the complete ethnic cleansing of Gaza. The ceasefire was always going to lead to the next step of it. We already seen under Biden them trying to make a deal with Egypt on sending displaced people. This was inevitable either way. Trump just directly states the goals rather than hides it behind empty liberal rhetoric like the dems.

The only difference is if Biden was still president there may still not be a ceasefire and Palestinians would still be being slaughtered by American bombs. But neither party has any interest in stopping Israel. This was always a bi-partisan genocide and ethnic cleansing.

 

[mobbinfms]

Learn to read, CAC.

Still haven’t answered my question. We both know why.

 

[mobbinfms]

This was the Zionist goal from day one. Wait, do you think Israel weren't already planning this under Biden? We already know that Biden and Harris don't tell Netanyahu no. The DNC is filled with Zionist stooges. The plan was always the complete ethnic cleansing of Gaza. The ceasefire was always going to lead to the next step of it. We already seen under Biden them trying to make a deal with Egypt on sending displaced people. This was inevitable either way. Trump just directly states the goals rather than hides it behind empty liberal rhetoric like the dems.

The only difference is if Biden was still president there may still not be a ceasefire and Palestinians would still be being slaughtered by American bombs. But neither party has any interest in stopping Israel. This was always a bi-partisan genocide and ethnic cleansing.

This is absolute bullshyt. In no universe would Oresident Harris behave advocated for what Trump did yesterday. Trump is worse.

 

[WaveMolecules]

The delusion in this thread is palpable. Dems were the only things standing between a 2 state solution and Gaza becoming the riviera of the Middle East.

I guess this had to happen

 

[Seoul Gleou]

Still haven’t answered my question. We both know why.

because you're fukking retarded CAC? lets run the tape, dummy.

Because that is still the lesser of two evils and the only morally defensible choice.

It isn't.

Explain to me how more evil is better than less evil.

I believe the "lesser of two evils" argument is flawed because it ultimately sustains harmful systems rather than challenging them. When we keep choosing the so-called "lesser evil," we allow injustice to continue, just at a slower pace. This makes oppression more tolerable and prevents real change from happening.


I also think that continuously voting for the lesser evil normalizes harm and erodes moral integrity. If we keep excusing wrongdoing just because “the other side is worse,” then where does it stop? At some point, we have to stop compromising and start demanding real justice.

That said, I understand the counterargument—people suffer under “more evil” leaders, and there’s no guarantee that things getting worse will lead to positive change. But to me, the bigger risk is allowing a system to keep functioning just because it’s oppressing us more slowly. At some point, we have to break the cycle.
If my arguments aren't enough, here are multiple sources that have painted my opinon. Enjoy.

Karty: The Lesser of Two Evils Argument Needs To Die - The Dartmouth Karty: The Lesser of Two Evils Argument Needs To Die

Duda: Dispelling “A non-vote is a vote for Trump” and Biden is “the lesser of two evils” amid war in Gaza Duda: Dispelling “A non-vote is a vote for Trump” Duda: Dispelling “A non-vote is a vote for Trump” and Biden is “the lesser of two evils” amid war in Gaza Duda: Dispelling “A non-vote is a vote for Trump”

Don't trust Kamala Harris: The lesser of two evils is still evil Don't trust Kamala Harris: The lesser of two evils is still evil

Genocide is Not the Lesser of Two Evils

“The Democratic Party and Biden are responsible for the Gaza genocide perpetrated by Israel.” - Refaat Alareer On Self-Proclaimed Allies of the Palestinian Liberation Movement On Saturday, June 22, 2024, Within Our Lifetime, along with a coalition of Bronx-based community organizations –...

wolpalestine.com

Biden’s handling of Gaza shakes his support in the Black community - The Washington Post https://search.app/rhzhpszHfGQkgrKD6

Voters on Their “Impossible” Decision Amid U.S.-Funded Genocide in Gaza “Every Choice Is Loss”: Voters on Their Decision Amid Genocide in Gaza

No Ceasefire No Vote campaign presses Harris on Gaza - WHYY No Ceasefire No Vote campaign in Pa. pressures Harris, Dems on Gaza

Lesser of Two Evils? Our Fight Is Against Both, No Matter How We Vote Lesser of Two Evils? Our Fight Is Against Both, No Matter How We Vote

 

[THE 101]

This is absolute bullshyt. In no universe would Oresident Harris behave advocated for what Trump did yesterday. Trump is worse.

So tell us all what she was going to do as president. Going by her campaign and quotes about Israel and Gaza, educate me on her great plans for the Palestinian people.

 

[Mister Terrific]

We already seen under Biden them trying to make a deal with Egypt on sending displaced people.

Biden wanted to open a temporary corridor for some displaced Gazans. Trump wants to ethnically cleanse the entire area. Not in the same ballpark.


Statement of Biden to Egypt

President Joseph R. Biden, Jr. spoke today with President Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi of Egypt to express his appreciation for Egypt’s efforts to reach a deal for the release of hostages held by Hamas together with a humanitarian pause in Gaza. They discussed coordination to further surge humanitarian assistance to Palestinians in Gaza. The President reiterated that under no circumstances will the United States permit the forced relocation of Palestinians from Gaza or the West Bank, or the besiegement of Gaza, or the redrawing of the borders of Gaza. He also affirmed that under no circumstances can Gaza remain a sanctuary for Hamas where they can threaten Israel and Palestinians alike and imperil any pathway to a durable peace. The President affirmed his commitment to the establishment of a Palestinian state and recognized Egypt’s essential role in setting the conditions for that outcome. The two leaders agreed to remain in close contact over the coming days as the deal to release hostages from Hamas is fully implemented.



Trump doesn’t need you to run interference for him.

 

[mobbinfms]

So tell us all what she was going to do as president. Going by her campaign and quotes about Israel and Gaza, educate me on her great plans for the Palestinian people.

Sure. Not advocate for the permanent relocation of the people of Gaza.

 

[mobbinfms]

because you're fukking retarded CAC? lets run the tape, dummy.

Still haven’t answered the question and your resorting to as hominem tells us all we need to know.

 

[Seoul Gleou]

Still haven’t answered the question and your resorting to as hominem tells us all we need to know.

to people like you, facts are perceived as personal attacks

 

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[THE 101]

Sure. Not advocate for the permanent relocation of the people of Gaza.

Okay so you just have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Just empty centrist drivel.

 

[THE 101]

Biden wanted to open a temporary corridor for some displaced Gazans. Trump wants to ethnically cleanse the entire area. Not in the same ballpark.


Statement of Biden to Egypt

President Joseph R. Biden, Jr. spoke today with President Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi of Egypt to express his appreciation for Egypt’s efforts to reach a deal for the release of hostages held by Hamas together with a humanitarian pause in Gaza. They discussed coordination to further surge humanitarian assistance to Palestinians in Gaza. The President reiterated that under no circumstances will the United States permit the forced relocation of Palestinians from Gaza or the West Bank, or the besiegement of Gaza, or the redrawing of the borders of Gaza. He also affirmed that under no circumstances can Gaza remain a sanctuary for Hamas where they can threaten Israel and Palestinians alike and imperil any pathway to a durable peace. The President affirmed his commitment to the establishment of a Palestinian state and recognized Egypt’s essential role in setting the conditions for that outcome. The two leaders agreed to remain in close contact over the coming days as the deal to release hostages from Hamas is fully implemented.



Trump doesn’t need you to run interference for him.

So you're telling me the plans to ethically cleanse Gaza only began with Trump as president? What were Israel's goals in Gaza prior to November 2024?

 

[Cat piss martini]

Disgusting.