NEW: Trump wants Gaza to be completely removed and move Palestinians elsewhere — "Palestinians have no alternative but to leave Gaza”

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No. The real question is why people knowingly supported the greater evil.
And Biden didn’t advocate for the permanent relocation of all Palestinians in Gaza. Stop it.

Greater evil?? We didn’t just watch a live stream of babies get blown up into bits for 16 months straight under Biden/Kamala? Biden who is a self proclaimed Zionist??
 

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Oh man you’re right! :whew: He just made sure Gaza’s infrastructure was completely intact so when the Palestinians came back they could visit the hospitals, schools and churches and go back in their nice warm homes when they were done. Yep.

Trump is definitely taking it too far, certainly Bibi is was shocked by his proposal and graciously accepted these terms.






















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I’m surprised you made it passed the sign-up screen you fukking idiot.
Is Trump’s advocacy for permanent relocation of the Palestinians in Gaza better or worse than Harris’ advocacy for a two state solution?
 

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Is Trump’s advocacy for permanent relocation of the Palestinians in Gaza better or worse than Harris’ advocacy for a two state solution?

Talk is cheap. Easy to talk a two state solution while being accused of genocide by everyone, including the international criminal court but then continue to drop bombs until he left office. Trump is just the continuation, you’re just too fukking stupid to realize it.
 

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Trump aides defend Gaza takeover proposal but walk back some elements​


By Jeff Mason, Matt Spetalnick, Steve Holland and Nidal Al-Mughrabi

February 5, 20253:57 PM ESTUpdated 6 min ago

  • Summary

  • 'Everybody loves it,' Trump says of his proposal
  • Trump's proposal draws international condemnation
  • Saudi Arabia rejects displacement of Palestinians
  • Palestinians fear another 'Nakba', recalling forced dispossession during 1948 war surrounding Israel's creation
  • Israel's Netanyahu says Trump is thinking with fresh ideas

WASHINGTON/CAIRO, Feb 5 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's top aides staunchly defended his push to transfer Palestinians out of Gaza and have the U.S. take over the war-ruined enclave, but they also backed away from elements of his proposal in the face of international condemnation.

A longtime New York property developer, Trump drew rebukes on Wednesday from world powers Russia, China and Germany, which said it would foster "new suffering and new hatred." Regional heavyweight Saudi Arabia rejected the proposal outright.

Barely two weeks in the job, Trump shattered decades of U.S. policy on Tuesday with a vaguely worded announcement saying he envisioned transforming Gaza into the "Riviera of the Middle East" where international communities could live in harmony after nearly 16 months of Israeli bombardment devastated the coastal enclave and killed more than 47,000 people, according to Palestinian tallies.

At a White House briefing on Wednesday, his press secretary Karoline Leavitt hailed his Gaza proposal as "historic" and "outside of the box" thinking but stressed that the president had not made a commitment to putting "boots on the ground" in the Palestinian enclave. She declined, however, to rule out potential use of U.S. troops there.

At the same time, Leavitt walked back Trump's earlier assertion that Gazans needed to be permanently resettled in neighboring countries, saying instead that they should be "temporarily relocated" for the rebuilding process.

U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio also said the idea was for Gazans to leave the territory for an "interim" period of reconstruction and debris-clearing.

It was unclear whether Trump would go ahead with his proposal or was simply taking an extreme position as a bargaining strategy, as he has done on other issues in the past.

Trump's son-in-law and former aide, Jared Kushner, last year described Gaza as "valuable" waterfront property, and on Tuesday Trump made similar claims as he called for the permanent resettlement of more than 2 million Palestinians from there.

Some experts said the proposed actions could violate international law. Others described his ideas as unworkable. Human rights advocates said it would amount to ethnic cleansing.

"Everybody loves it," Trump told reporters in the Oval Office earlier on Wednesday, referring to his Gaza idea.

Trump's pronouncements, however, appear to run counter to U.S. public opinion, which polls have shown is overwhelmingly opposed to new entanglements in conflict zones following lengthy military interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Trump frequently asserted during the 2024 election campaign and since returning to office that he would end what he called "ridiculous" wars and prevent others from starting

On a trip to Guatemala, Rubio, apparently seeking to counter the wave of global criticism, insisted Trump's proposal was not a "hostile move" but a generous one that expressed "the willingness of the United States to become responsible for the reconstruction of that area."

In contrast, Leavitt said U.S. taxpayers would not foot the bill and that Trump would strike a deal with regional partners.

Trump offered no specifics as he announced his proposal while welcoming Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to the White House on Tuesday. He said he and his team had been discussing the possibility with Jordan, Egypt and other regional countries.



'TRUMP CAN GO TO HELL'​


Netanyahu, who met on Wednesday with U.S. Vice President JD Vance, would not be drawn into discussing the proposal, other than to praise Trump for trying a new approach.

But Leavitt, who described it as "something the president has been socializing and thinking about for quite some time," said Trump told Netanyahu in advance what he would announce on Tuesday.

Jordan's King Abdullah said on Wednesday he rejected any moves to annex land and displace Palestinians. Egypt said it would back Gaza recovery plans, following a ceasefire that took effect on Jan. 19, without Palestinians leaving the territory.

In Gaza, Palestinians living among the wreckage of their former homes said they would never accept the idea.

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"Trump can go to hell, with his ideas, with his money, and with his beliefs. We are going nowhere. We are not some of his assets," said Samir Abu Basel, a father of five in Gaza City displaced from his house by the war.

Since taking office on Jan. 20, Trump has talked about a U.S. takeover of Greenland, warned of the possible seizure of the Panama Canal and declared that Canada should become the 51st U.S. state.

Some critics have said his expansionist rhetoric echoes old-style imperialism, suggesting it could encourage Russia in its war in Ukraine and give China justification for invading self-ruled Taiwan.

World leaders said they remained supportive of the two-state solution that has formed the basis of U.S. policy in the region for decades, which has held that Gaza would be part of a future Palestinian state that includes the Israeli-occupied West Bank.

U.S. national security adviser Mike Waltz on Wednesday played down any notion the U.S. was walking away from longstanding Middle East policy. "I certainly didn't hear the president say it was the end of the two-state solution," he told CBS News.



'RIDICULOUS AND ABSURD'​


An official from Palestinian militant group Hamas, which ruled the Gaza Strip before the war there that followed Hamas' deadly October 7, 2023, cross-border attack on Israel, said Trump's proposal was "ridiculous and absurd."

"Any ideas of this kind are capable of igniting the region," Sami Abu Zuhri told Reuters, saying Hamas remains committed to the ceasefire accord with Israel and negotiating its next phase.

Trump's proposal raises questions about whether Saudi Arabia would be willing to join a renewed U.S.-brokered push for a historic normalisation of relations with Israel.

Saudi Arabia, a pivotal U.S. ally in the Middle East, said it would not establish ties with Israel without the creation of a Palestinian state, contradicting Trump's claim that Riyadh was not demanding a Palestinian homeland.

Trump would like Saudi Arabia to follow in the footsteps of the United Arab Emirates, a Middle East trade and business hub, and Bahrain, both of which signed the Abraham Accords in 2020 and normalised ties with Israel.

But on Wednesday, the kingdom's foreign ministry said Saudi Arabia rejected any attempts to remove Palestinians from their land and said Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman had affirmed this position in "a clear and explicit manner."

Itamar Ben-Gvir, a far-right Israeli lawmaker and former minister for national security, said "encouraging" Gazans to emigrate was the only correct strategy at the end of the Gaza war and urged Netanyahu to adopt the policy "immediately."

Michael Milshtein, a former intelligence officer and one of Israel's leading specialists on Hamas, said Trump's comments put Israel on a collision course with its Arab neighbours.

"Maybe Trump is trying to promote pressure on the Arab states (so) they will not create any obstacles if he tries to promote a normalisation between Saudi Arabia and Israel."

Gaza residents said after war and bombs had failed to eject them from Gaza that Trump would not succeed in doing so.

As fighting raged in the Gaza war, Palestinians feared they would suffer another "Nakba," or catastrophe, the time when hundreds of thousands were dispossessed of their homes in the war at the birth of the state of Israel in 1948.

Now they fear another round of displacement.

"We will not leave our areas," said Um Tamer Jamal, a 65-year-old mother of six. "We have brought our kids up teaching them that they can't leave their home and they can't allow a second Nakba."

During a U.N. committee meeting, United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres told Trump to avoid ethnic cleansing.

"In the search for solutions, we must not make the problem worse. It is vital to stay true to the bedrock of international law. It is essential to avoid any form of ethnic cleansing," he said.
 

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Talk is cheap. Easy to talk a two state solution while being accused of genocide by everyone, including the international criminal court but then continue to drop bombs until he left office. Trump is just the continuation, you’re just too fukking stupid to realize it.
This is ridiculous. Have you even been following this? Talk isn’t cheap and there’s a wild difference from advocating for a two state solution and permanent displacement.
 

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This is ridiculous. Have you even been following this? Talk isn’t cheap and there’s a wild difference from advocating for a two state solution and permanent displacement.

nikka… what is the difference between exterminating them, destroying their land and homes, having them move around every couple of days and then BOMBING where they’re moving vs displacing them permanently?????

You didn’t even read the article I sent you because Biden proposed the same fukking thing. You’re playing some dumbass straw man argument and the underlining fact is both of these fools are FOLLOWING ORDERS. AIPAC is controlling our government, greater Israel has been in motion for decades. Now this is the turning point for Gaza because it’s already been destroyed by Biden’s administration
 
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Meanwhile the REAL ONES in the Democrating party are trying to stand on business...

LINK : https://www.axios.com/2025/02/05/donald-trump-house-democrat-impeachment-articles?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

Rep. Al Green (D-Texas) said Wednesday he plans to introduce articles of impeachment against President Trump after just two weeks of the new president's second term.
Why it matters: The effort is almost certain to fail, but it is the latest example of progressive Democrats trying to revive the anti-Trump resistance that helped sweep them into power during the last Trump administration.
Driving the news: In a House floor speech, Green took aim at Trump for saying at a press conference with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that the U.S. will "take over the Gaza strip" and "own it."
  • "Ethnic cleansing in Gaza is not a joke, especially when it emanates from the president of the United States," Green said.
  • Green continued: "I rise to announce that the movement to impeach the president has begun. I rise to announce that I will bring articles of impeachment against the president for dastardly deeds proposed and dastardly deeds done."
Between the lines: Green is known in Congress as a bombastic and prolific speaker, and as one of Trump's most persistent Democratic critics.
  • In 2017 — long before the two successful impeachment efforts against Trump — the Texas Democrat forced a vote on impeachment that just 58 of his Democratic colleagues supported.
  • It is not clear whether he will once again force a vote or what the articles will say. His spokesperson Teque'ila Lewis told Axios he will "publish everything for everyone at the same time."

  • "They are still a work in progress," she added.
What we're hearing: Senior Democratic sources brushed off Green's efforts, casting him as a backbencher who is not in coordination with leadership.
  • One senior House Democrat, asked whether Green's articles might gain traction, told Axios: "No."
  • The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.



Too bad the " middle of the aisle" geriatric folks like Chuck, Nancy, and old ass Joe at the top of the party won't support ANY real fight back

Dems are some defeated hoes and I'll cuss any one of you shills out for suggesting we give them undying support!!!
 
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Rep. @NMalliotakis: “$50 million for condoms in Gaza…”

@abbydphillip: “STOP. That is a lie. That is false.”

Malliotakis (R) appears *shocked* Trump would lie. Google is your friend, congresswoman.



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@RobertMackey
Among the USAID reports now taken offline by @elonmusk's "Doge" is the one I used on Tuesday to prove the US has spent exactly $0 on condoms for Gaza, not $50 million — false information the White House press secretary said she got from @elonmusk's "Doge" White House orders all federal staff to return to in-office work or resign – as it happened



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@RobertMackey
For people who care about facts, and prefer not to be
lied to, here's the archived report Wayback Machine



3/12
@RobertMackey
They have not yet taken down this information on another State Department grant for Gaza, which I discovered was also not for condoms: At least five senior FBI leaders reportedly demoted or moved as Trump’s nominee is grilled by senators – as it happened



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@RobertMackey




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5/12
@AustinHassan1
"Almost certainly not true" is such an interesting choice of language.



6/12
@RobertMackey
It's been a week and they have produced zero evidence of any such grant, and the press secretary did not include it on a list of wasteful spending by USAID today. As I reported, there was a $45 million grant to a UN agency for Gaza, but $0 for condoms At least five senior FBI leaders reportedly demoted or moved as Trump’s nominee is grilled by senators – as it happened



7/12
@debbiefeland
So, $60.8 million in contraceptives to other countries is way better than all of it just going to Gaza…🤡



8/12
@RobertMackey
If you do not want STDs, like HIV/AIDS running rampant and getting chances to mutate into
more virulent strains that could infect Americans, yes.



9/12
@jarrodxmartian
@DataRepublican showed it was much higher, Like over 100m, after that "debunking"



10/12
@RobertMackey
No, that was a bad guess; as I reported, the most likely grant they mistakenly guessed was for condoms (but was not) was
a different one for Gaza At least five senior FBI leaders reportedly demoted or moved as Trump’s nominee is grilled by senators – as it happened



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🧵From funneling tax dollars to risky research in Wuhan to sending Ukrainians to Paris Fashion Week, USAID is one of the worst offenders of waste in Washington… all around the world. 🌎

This is why @POTUS, @DOGE, and @elonmusk are ending the nonsense. 👇


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@RobertMackey
This list includes not a dollar of US funding for condoms in Gaza — why do you think that is? Probably because that's not true: At least five senior FBI leaders reportedly demoted or moved as Trump’s nominee is grilled by senators – as it happened




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