Netflix might have one: Making a Murderer (Dec 18th)

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I hear what y'all are saying. Seems way too stupid of a crime.

But the way he kept repeating, "they ain't gonna find nothin" just didn't sit right with me.

Innocent men don't usually talk like that. Also he was too fukking calm about the whole thing. No one does 18 years only to be accused again and stays calms through all of it.

I needed Steven to show some real emotion when proclaiming his innocence. Not just monotone statements like "they ain't gon find nuttin".

I might be wrong but that didn't seem like the reaction of an innocent man.
 

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I hear what y'all are saying. Seems way too stupid of a crime.

But the way he kept repeating, "they ain't gonna find nothin" just didn't sit right with me.

Innocent men don't usually talk like that. Also he was too fukking calm about the whole thing. No one does 18 years only to be accused again and stays calms through all of it.

I needed Steven to show some real emotion when proclaiming his innocence. Not just monotone statements like "they ain't gon find nuttin".

I might be wrong but that didn't seem like the reaction of an innocent man.
that's what i'd say if i were being setup.
 

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I don't think Steven had a 70 IQ I think that was Brenden but either way the whole family isn't bright. With that said, lets say he is dumb enough to leave bones in the ash and cover the vehicle with sticks and shyt. How then are we supposed to believe that he is sophisticated enough to clean his bedroom and garage and not leave a trace of blood/DNA?

Remember.. the picture the prosecution is painting is that this woman was raped, beaten stabbed, throat slashed and shot in the head. That would be a gruesome murder scene and damn near impossible to clean up without leaving something behind.

I'm not necessarily saying that Steven is innocent but I personally do not think he did it and even if I had suspicion that he was guilty I don't think the prosecution came anywhere near the threshold to where I'd deliver a guilty verdict. That's not even including the bytchmade police who I am 95% sure planted evidence.

Brenden is an even sadder story though because I honestly don't believe for a second that he had anything to do with it.

Manitowoc PD thinking "If only she had a vial of blood laying around :blessed:"
 

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I am on Episode 4 right now, but are people in Wisconsin dumb as shyt? :dahell:

How can cops interrogate a 16 year old without a parent? How is that even legal?

That kid is clearly retarded. How is that shyt even allowed? :mindblown:

All I was thinking was if they can do this kind of shyt (plant evidence etc) to white folk in 2003, imagine what the fukk cops were doing to black folk in the 60s,70s, 80s and probably still now.

Extremely demonic. :demonic:
 

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I don't think Steven had a 70 IQ I think that was Brenden but either way the whole family isn't bright. With that said, lets say he is dumb enough to leave bones in the ash and cover the vehicle with sticks and shyt. How then are we supposed to believe that he is sophisticated enough to clean his bedroom and garage and not leave a trace of blood/DNA?

Remember.. the picture the prosecution is painting is that this woman was raped, beaten stabbed, throat slashed and shot in the head. That would be a gruesome murder scene and damn near impossible to clean up without leaving something behind.

I'm not necessarily saying that Steven is innocent but I personally do not think he did it and even if I had suspicion that he was guilty I don't think the prosecution came anywhere near the threshold to where I'd deliver a guilty verdict. That's not even including the bytchmade police who I am 95% sure planted evidence.

Brenden is an even sadder story though because I honestly don't believe for a second that he had anything to do with it.
Steven did too...that was said in episode 1 or 2
 

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@TIK do you not remembers the conversation with his family where he was insinuating he was gonna commit suicide because he couldnt take it anymore? and how poor ppl always lose
Don't remember that, no.

If Steven was framed, who killed her and why?

Did they do all this to put Steven away?

OR was it just convenient to blame him after they wanted to rape and kill her?
 

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Don't remember that, no.

If Steven was framed, who killed her and why?

Did they do all this to put Steven away?

OR was it just convenient to blame him after they wanted to rape and kill her?
thats actually what i was thinking about an hr ago
the reason he was exonerated at first was because they were able to confirm the other dude did it. with this case theres no evidence to point to anybody else.

at the same time though...what if the cops just neglected all other evidence?? i dunno man
hearing this Brendan on the fone...i dunno
 

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Don't remember that, no.

If Steven was framed, who killed her and why?

Did they do all this to put Steven away?

OR was it just convenient to blame him after they wanted to rape and kill her?
That's on the State to find out but to me, I feel like the roommate and brother had something to do with it. Chick goes missing for three days and the roommate doesn't even bat a eyelash. I think some officers helped move the remains to Avery's property, the evidence proves all that anyway, just not who specifically.
 
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