Nelly says his Era of rap was the toughest : “When I put out songs, I Had To go Against DMX, JAY-Z, Eminem, Lil Wayne, 50 Cent, Luda."

[itsyoung!!]

More reading, less typing, bro.

I'm talking about Sweatsuit. I typed the name of the project. It couldn't even sell 500K. Which is why I mentioned it being a compilation. You're trying way too hard.

We not talking about Sweatsuit, the compilation album in 2005, we are talking about Sweat & Suit, which came out in 2004

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

There presence was no longer the gold standard to be a participant. So Im not sure how they were a challenge when skills was no longer a hurdle.

thar's highly debatable, especially if you actually look at WHAT happened

 

[NYC Rebel]

thar's highly debatable, especially if you actually look at WHAT happened

It isn’t debatable. Dip Set had one good MC in the whole crew and blew up.


Skills were no longer required

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

It isn’t debatable. Dip Set had one good MC in the whole crew and blew up.


Skills were no longer required

@ that being the example

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I guess…if all you value is sales and numbers

That’s what the thread is talking about - the mega sales era

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

The 3 years that Nelly made noise were actually Hip Hop's weakest years in the history of the genre.

Labels were signing basically anyone they felt could turn a cheesy hook into gold. This was also when the 360 deal started popping up, and dudes were vanishing after one big record.

Nelly was a pop act. Not Hip Hop. So he was never in talks about being dope as an MC. His whole model that Universal set up for him, was about making Top 40 pop hits. So he can't speak like he's ever been in the same league as any of the MC's from that era. He was never viewed the same. Which is why by '03, he was a wrap. Dude was only on for three years. Fell off quick fast.

This is a lie. The weakest era was 05-09, and currently 2020-present. Hip hop was still in a great place 00-05

 

[shopthatwrecks]

Nelly did it with NO MAJOR COSIGN. You have to respect that. Dude had a wanye feature on the first album because he couldn't afford juvenile.

Nelly was apart of the halftime show when he came out too.

Nelly popularity on his first go is similar to how ICE SPICE getting the attention now.

Everyone knew nelly, and had band aids on their faces.

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[NYC Rebel]

@ that being the example

I don’t get it. None of those dudes besides Cam can spit.

 

[Rekkapryde]

he had 3 consectuctive #1 albums from 2000-2004 how you capping his run at 2003

then you say 2004 was a good year because it was a return to "real" hip hop and he drops a #1 and #2 album, along with a top 3 billboard single in 2004

you dont know what the fukk you are talking about, in here sounding like a KRS 1 dweeb ass fan

 

[NYC Rebel]

Who cares? In that moment, he was guaranteed to get the party live unless you was hugging the wall or something. nikkas with bars would’ve done whatever to do a 1/4
of his numbers around that time.

I think what people called competition changed. Competition used to be about bars. Some of us have a hard time hearing an MC talk about competition and not applying it to their craft of being an MC . What Nelly calls competition was about sales absent of MCing.

 

[Primetime]

This is a lie. The weakest era was 05-09, and currently 2020-present. Hip hop was still in a great place 00-05

Yea i wouldn't lie, I was in college around that time and i remember telling my buddies mockingly that we were now in the "hook classics" era. No lyrics, no skill, no depth, just a catchy/gimmicky hook or chant for 75% of the song, and maybe a dance to go with it

Had to have been around '07 iirc. Mike Jones' 15 minutes was basically up but Soulja Boy arrived shortly after and it felt like every other commercial song was on some laffy taffy or throw some ds ish

 

[NoirDynosaur]

90's towards the Mid 00's was far more competitive >>>

West Coast (Pac, Cube,Snoop, Kurupt, Tha Alkaholiks, Ras Kass, Warren G, Souls of Mischief, etc)
Southern Hip Hop (Outkast, Three Six Mafia, UGK, No Limit, Cash Money, Scarface & Geto Boys)
East Coast (HOV, Nas, Redman, Beanie Sigel, DMX, ATCQ, Big L, AZ, Guru, Biggie, Pun, Fab, Wutang Clan, The LOX, Mase, 50, Black Thought, Busta & Flipmode
Midwest (Twista, Common, Bone Thugs N Harmony)

Back then each region had its own sound

 

[Yagirlcheatinonus]

No lies told

 

[itsyoung!!]

90's towards the Mid 00's was far more competitive >>>

West Coast (Pac, Cube,Snoop, Kurupt, Tha Alkaholiks, Ras Kass, Warren G, Souls of Mischief, etc)
Southern Hip Hop (Outkast, Three Six Mafia, UGK, No Limit, Cash Money, Scarface & Geto Boys)
East Coast (HOV, Nas, Redman, Beanie Sigel, DMX, ATCQ, Big L, AZ, Guru, Biggie, Pun, Fab, Wutang Clan, The LOX, Mase, 50, Black Thought, Busta & Flipmode
Midwest (Twista, Common, Bone Thugs N Harmony)

Back then each region had its own sound

90% of the artists you listed werent moving albums like that

Mafukka said Guru and Souls of Mischief

 

[LiveFromLondon]

nikka u buggin

that mid 90’s era was the pinnacle of hip-hop by a galaxy

Commercial standpoint nikka