Neil deGrasse Tyson’s 20-Minute TAKEDOWN of Christianity

[Mister Terrific]

What does invention of a cell phone have to do with what we are talking about.

You denigrated astrophysics because Europeans are or were the leading scientists of that field. I pointed out many things you use on a day to day basis were invented by Europeans.

Your cell phone doesn’t work without satellites, and astrophysicists are the ones that got satellites into space.

These technologies didn’t “blink” into existence.

Plus god created the humans and materials used to create the phone. Therefore he also created the phone by your logic. Your athiesm prevents you from seeing this clearly.

The materials in my phone have been in existence since the universe expanded and the earth was a bell of molten rock.

Hell if God was real he would’ve put something in the Bible about the personal computer surely. Kinda of a big thing to leave out. It’s almost like the people who wrote it were desert nomads and farmers.

You said that right,engineers not scientist. Many scientist cant even explain how the things engineers build work. Yet you think somehow they have some sort of comprehensive knowledge of how Gods works work and why?

Science covers a wide range of fields, even so engineers who build the Hubble telescope, space shuttle, hadron collider, space station, and other wonders of space technology would have to have studied astrophysics, similarly an astrophysicist will have to have basic knowledge of engineering to understand how their machine works.

There’s an entire discipline concerned with this

Aerospace engineering - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

You can pretend we live in chaos to prove a point. But you’re in a very relaxed state right now,everything working cohesively in your body and outside of it so that you can live. These systems are complex almost as if they were designed. Of course you will call certain things chaos because you have no full understanding of why they work like they do,or what the purpose is. That doesnt mean it’s "chaos" to the engineer who designed it(God).

There human body works against itself all of the time. If my cells replicate too rapidly I get cancer. If my appendix fails I could die. If my molars get impacted I could get infected and die. An air bubble could end up in my bloodstream and I have an aneurysm.

In fact our own evolutionary make up points to the fact there was no grand design

For instance our eyeball are built backwards, the cones in our eyes are no evenly spread out so we have blind spots. Scientists can design “eyes” far better at seeing things than the rudimentary balls of jelly stuck in our head.

Furthermore there are body parts we have that no longer can be used and in many ways are a detriment to us today

Vestigiality - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Why did God give us body parts we don’t need?

When an engineer builds your car does he put shyt in the car that doesn’t have a function or purpose?


The vast majority of human history is short chaotic violent lives.

Gods, ghosts, spirits, were all created to make sense of the madness. Now we have science.

Now you say if there was a god he would be far above the God I believe in,absolutely. He would also be above what your little scientist can comprehend,dont leave that part out

But the God in the Bible is perfectly comprehensible. He’s not laying out advanced equations, talking about advanced technologies, or how Black Holes work, or what dark matter is. He’s giving a bunch of cloth wearing shepherds basic civics lessons and getting into conflicts with Egyptians and Romans whose primary form of combat is sharpened metal.

There is nothing mysterious about the God of the Bible, no more mysterious than Zeus or Thor or Shiva. All exhibit human emotions and behave in an easily discernible manner. I created you, worship me.

I dont need to prove anything,as the evidence of design points to a designer.

What evidence? You haven’t provided any? Your evidence is saying “well this looks complicated so it’s proof of God” that’s not evidence that’s ignorance.

Unless you can point to anything else that that has as many complex functions that are often interconnected,that just happened by way of a happy accident.

Often interconnected? Why are some of our body parts not connected or being used? In what instance od engineering would a machine need something that doesn’t have a purpose? Why did God create us with a tailbone?

Not sure how scientist have the arrogance to say the "bang" itself wasnt created. Which would make their entire narrative invalid. Its clear as day they have to push their godless narrative so they can be God instead:respect:

All scientists say is the Big Bang occurred and nothing more because science is about the scientific method.

What you are engaging in is the God of the gaps fallacy

God of the gaps - Wikipedia

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God of the gaps" is a theological concept that emerged in the 19th century and revolves around the idea that gaps in scientific understanding are regarded as indications of the existence of God.[1][2] This perspective has its origins in the observation that some individuals, often with religious inclinations, point to areas where science falls short in explaining natural phenomena as opportunities to insert the presence of a divine creator. The term itself was coined in response to this tendency. This theological view suggests that God fills in the gaps left by scientific knowledge, and that these gaps represent moments of divine intervention or influence.

 

[Still Benefited]

You denigrated astrophysics because Europeans are or were the leading scientists of that field. I pointed out many things you use on a day to day basis were invented by Europeans.

Your cell phone doesn’t work without satellites, and astrophysicists are the ones that got satellites into space.

These technologies didn’t “blink” into existence.


The materials in my phone have been in existence since the universe expanded and the earth was a bell of molten rock.

Hell if God was real he would’ve put something in the Bible about the personal computer surely. Kinda of a big thing to leave out. It’s almost like the people who wrote it were desert nomads and farmers.




Science covers a wide range of fields, even so engineers who build the Hubble telescope, space shuttle, hadron collider, space station, and other wonders of space technology would have to have studied astrophysics, similarly an astrophysicist will have to have basic knowledge of engineering to understand how their machine works.

There’s an entire discipline concerned with this

Aerospace engineering - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

There human body works against itself all of the time. If my cells replicate too rapidly I get cancer. If my appendix fails I could die. If my molars get impacted I could get infected and die. An air bubble could end up in my bloodstream and I have an aneurysm.

In fact our own evolutionary make up points to the fact there was no grand design

For instance our eyeball are built backwards, the cones in our eyes are no evenly spread out so we have blind spots. Scientists can design “eyes” far better at seeing things than the rudimentary balls of jelly stuck in our head.

Furthermore there are body parts we have that no longer can be used and in many ways are a detriment to us today

Vestigiality - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Why did God give us body parts we don’t need?

When an engineer builds your car does he put shyt in the car that doesn’t have a function or purpose?


The vast majority of human history is short chaotic violent lives.

Gods, ghosts, spirits, were all created to make sense of the madness. Now we have science.





But the God in the Bible is perfectly comprehensible. He’s not laying out advanced equations, talking about advanced technologies, or how Black Holes work, or what dark matter is. He’s giving a bunch of cloth wearing shepherds basic civics lessons and getting into conflicts with Egyptians and Romans whose primary form of combat is sharpened metal.

There is nothing mysterious about the God of the Bible, no more mysterious than Zeus or Thor or Shiva. All exhibit human emotions and behave in an easily discernible manner. I created you, worship me.






What evidence? You haven’t provided any? Your evidence is saying “well this looks complicated so it’s proof of God” that’s not evidence that’s ignorance.



Often interconnected? Why are some of our body parts not connected or being used? In what instance od engineering would a machine need something that doesn’t have a purpose? Why did God create us with a tailbone?




All scientists say is the Big Bang occurred and nothing more because science is about the scientific method.

What you are engaging in is the God of the gaps fallacy

God of the gaps - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

God of the gaps" is a theological concept that emerged in the 19th century and revolves around the idea that gaps in scientific understanding are regarded as indications of the existence of God.[1][2] This perspective has its origins in the observation that some individuals, often with religious inclinations, point to areas where science falls short in explaining natural phenomena as opportunities to insert the presence of a divine creator. The term itself was coined in response to this tendency. This theological view suggests that God fills in the gaps left by scientific knowledge, and that these gaps represent moments of divine intervention or influence.

The European has created many wonderful inventions,that go against nature. Built a Babylon zoo structure where they spray chemtrails,give you foods constructed with science that lead to things like cancer. Plus other inventions that lead to atrophy of body parts and your mind,alter your dna etc. But excuse me if im not glazing enough for your liking. Just because i enjoy convienience doesnt mean the European isnt a cancer that goes against nature.



As for "backwards" eyes
"These results mean that the retina of the eye has been optimised so that the sizes and densities of glial cells match the colours to which the eye is sensitive (which is in itself an optimisation process suited to our needs). This optimisation is such that colour vision during the day is enhanced, while night-time vision suffers very little. The effect also works best when the pupils are contracted at high illumination, further adding to the clarity of our colour vision."


And as far as a "tailbone"
"While the tailbone (coccyx) is considered a vestigial structure, meaning it's no longer essential for survival, it does serve important functions, including providing support when sitting and acting as an anchor point for muscles and ligaments."


Not to mention theres no proof that we ever had tails to begin with. So this narrative of a lost tail is just to help their evolution theory. They make this stuff up as they go along. And all of you believers will believe "Making shyt up as you go is science".

Sure,but its also evidence your making shyt up as you go. So pardon me if I dont consider everything the European says gospel. My God keeps it simple,this is what you need to know in your observable reality as a human. Its literally all in the default settings. If it wasnt you wouldnt be here today. Even if you believe in evolution,we evolved to learn how to eat to survive. Evolved to learn how to crawl and walk to survive. Evolved to learn how to have sex to reproduce and surive. This knowledge/intelligence wouldve had to have been in the default/factory settings. But trade in your jelly eyes for robot ones if you prefer. My ideal God would snatch them right out of your head like
Pei Mai in Kill Bill

 

[Mister Terrific]

The European has created many wonderful inventions,that go against nature. Built a Babylon zoo structure where they spray chemtrails,give you foods constructed with science that lead to things like cancer.

Funny how in the Bible God never mentions chemtrail and chemically altered food.


Seems like something to warn his followers about.

Plus other inventions that lead to atrophy of body parts and your mind,alter your dna etc. But excuse me if im not glazing enough for your liking. Just because i enjoy convienience doesnt mean the European isnt a cancer that goes against nature.

Human beings as a whole live longer healthier less violent lives than at any point in history. Well outside of biblical history where people lived 200 years than suddenly stopped when we got concurrent written records.

Tell me, do you live like a 13th century Babylonian?

You believe in technology when it makes your life convenient, when it intrudes on your conveniences as in making your belief in magic laughable, you discard it.

As for "backwards" eyes
"These results mean that the retina of the eye has been optimised so that the sizes and densities of glial cells match the colours to which the eye is sensitive (which is in itself an optimisation process suited to our needs). This optimisation is such that colour vision during the day is enhanced, while night-time vision suffers very little. The effect also works best when the pupils are contracted at high illumination, further adding to the clarity of our colour vision."

Why would an all powerful God need to jury-rig an eyeball to function properly when he could have just built it straight forward so that it work? Hell he has access to any magic available, why do we need cones to see color in the first place? We should just be able to see. It’s magic. Why is

Furthermore why do we have blind spots due to our inverted eyes?

In fact Octopuses have better structured eyes than we do and do not suffer from this blind spot affliction and also can detect polarized light.

In vertebrates, the retina is inverted, meaning the photoreceptor cells are at the back, and light must travel through a layer of neurons to reach them. In cephalopods, the retina is everted, with photoreceptor cells facing forward, and the nerve fibers run behind the retina, resulting in no blind spot


God gave a tentacle creature in the ocean a more efficient powerful eye but gave his greatest creation an eye who’s very structure gives it a significant deficiency.


What was the grand design plan here?

And as far as a "tailbone"
"While the tailbone (coccyx) is considered a vestigial structure, meaning it's no longer essential for survival, it does serve important functions, including providing support when sitting and acting as an anchor point for muscles and ligaments."

The coccyx is not entirely useless in humans,[11] because it has attachments to various muscles, tendons and ligaments. However, these muscles, tendons and ligaments are also attached at many other points, to stronger structures than the coccyx. It is doubtful that the coccyx attachments are important to the well-being of humans, given the large number of coccygectomy procedures performed annually to treat coccydynia. Reviews of studies covering more than 700 coccygectomies found the operation was successful in relieving pain in 84% of cases.[12][13] 12% of the time, the only major complication faced was infection due to the proximity to the anus. One notable complication of coccygectomy is an increased risk of perineal hernia.


We have stronger structures in our bodies to perform the sitting benefits of the coccyx and not only that but it causes significant pain that requires surgery in the large percentage of the population.

It is a useless vestige kept from of our early ancestors. No intelligent designer is making a coccyx.

Not to mention theres no proof that we ever had tails to begin with. So this narrative of a lost tail is just to help their evolution theory. They make this stuff up as they go along. And all of you believers will believe "Making shyt up as you go is science".

Our ancestors had tails the vestiges of which we inherited from them.

My God keeps it simple,

Keeps what simple? On the one hand you say that the complexities of the universe are proof of Gods grace, and on the other hand you say it’s all simple? Which is it?

this is what you need to know in your observable reality as a human. Its literally all in the default settings. If it wasnt you wouldnt be here today. Even if you believe in evolution,we evolved to learn how to eat to survive. Evolved to learn how to crawl and walk to survive. Evolved to learn how to have sex to reproduce and surive. This knowledge/intelligence wouldve had to have been in the default/factory settings. But trade in your jelly eyes for robot ones if you prefer. My ideal God would snatch them right out of your head like
Pei Mai in Kill Bill:respect:

There are microscopic organisms on your eye lids right now that are crawling, fukking, eating and having offspring. Is that Gods plan?

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

@2 Up 2 Down
What transatlantic slaveowners did was rip pages out of the Bible (thus creating what was known as the “The Slave Bible” google it) because they knew they the REAL Bible would incite rebellion

Why would they do that if the Bible supported slavery

People who read the REAL Bible in FULL snuck the real versions to slaves which actually started the revolts that eventually led to freedom.

As stated by Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, David Walker, Sojo Truth and others

That was used in British territories and people were revolting and trying to escape not because of the Bible but because people don't want to be held in bondage

 

[3rdWorld]

Tell him to make the same video about Islam and see what happens

He should, but necessary.

Because since Islam came after Christianity, and is its derivative it means whatever bullshyt found in Christianity is also in Islam.

 

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@TumiNitro
The slave and his master pray to the same God..... whose prayers will be answered?




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@Africarevolt
Afrikans are in spiritual bondage because they approach their spirituality thru religions provided by,invaders & conquerors
How can a slave,&his master both worship the same God?Then both of them expect their pray to be answered by this very same God?-Dr John H. Clarke

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[Diunx]

Believing in gods and magic in 2025

 

[Da King]

No smoke for allah?

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

No smoke for allah?

Most black Americans have Christianity backgrounds. However, if someone is atheists that means they reject all the gods whether they speak on them or not

 

[Hov]

That was used in British territories and people were revolting and trying to escape not because of the Bible but because people don't want to be held in bondage

Absolutely AND they did have access to the real Bible during revivals and they explicitly said it gave them strength, identity and courage to seek freedom. Harriet Tubman quoted Scripture. Frederick Douglass said the Christianity of Christ was nothing like the slaveholder’s religion. The Slave Bible shows how powerful the real one was and slaveholders cut it up because they feared what it would do. You can’t rewrite their testimony they left it in their own words

 

[Hov]

Believing in gods and magic in 2025

Yea silly right but these people (among others) are on record saying that a supernatural or demonic entity taught them to do exactly what they created or had a breakthrough on:

Adolf Hitler
Jack Parsons
Wernher von Braun
Isaac Newton
Nikola Tesla
Carl Jung
John Dee
Benjamin Franklin
Thomas Edison
Leo da Vinci
Albert Einstein (admired mysticism)
Walt Disney
Jay-Z
Beyoncé
Bob Dylan (Google his 60 min interview )
Sammy Davis Jr. (even Eddie Murphy talks on this and is like wtf)
Lady Gaga
Alejandro Jodorowsky
Doja Cat
Marina Abramović
Elon Musk (Google his cryptic spiritual/transhuman statements)
Oppenheimer

And more. But don’t listen to what they say, thus good vs evil stuff is all fake

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Absolutely AND they did have access to the real Bible during revivals and they explicitly said it gave them strength, identity and courage to seek freedom. Harriet Tubman quoted Scripture. Frederick Douglass said the Christianity of Christ was nothing like the slaveholder’s religion. The Slave Bible shows how powerful the real one was and slaveholders cut it up because they feared what it would do. You can’t rewrite their testimony they left it in their own words

No one needs religion to know they want to be free from enslavement. There were tons of revolts in America and they didn't need the Bible. I would wager that the majority of them couldn't read due to the system.
In the British/French territories there were revolts before and after the Slave Bible was created.

 

[Diunx]

Yea silly right but these people (among others) are on record saying that a supernatural or demonic entity taught them to do exactly what they created or had a breakthrough on:

Adolf Hitler
Jack Parsons
Wernher von Braun
Isaac Newton
Nikola Tesla
Carl Jung
John Dee
Benjamin Franklin
Thomas Edison
Leo da Vinci
Albert Einstein (admired mysticism)
Walt Disney
Jay-Z
Beyoncé
Bob Dylan (Google his 60 min interview )
Sammy Davis Jr. (even Eddie Murphy talks on this and is like wtf)
Lady Gaga
Alejandro Jodorowsky
Doja Cat
Marina Abramović
Elon Musk (Google his cryptic spiritual/transhuman statements)
Oppenheimer

And more. But don’t listen to what they say, thus good vs evil stuff is all fake

They were also all on drugs/drunk but carry, if Hitler and Lady Gaga say it it must be true.

 

[Hov]

No one needs religion to know they want to be free from enslavement. There were tons of revolts in America and they didn't need the Bible. I would wager that the majority of them couldn't read due to the system.
In the British/French territories there were revolts before and after the Slave Bible was created.

I didn’t say Christianity was the ONLY reason slaves didn’t want to be slaves anymore, that would be asinine

What I did was respect my actual ancestors and take their words for what many of THEM said. They felt empowered etc

Also if Christianity was meaningless the slave owners wouldn’t have ripped out the pages and distributed the "meaningless book" in it's full form.

 

[Hov]

They were also all on drugs/drunk but carry, if Hitler and Lady Gaga say it it must be true.

Einstein and Tesla & Sir Isaac Newton & Oppenheimer etc were all on drugs & drunk during their work breh?

Tesla just an idiot making stuff up when he said in 1899 that his ideas were "received," not generated, which led most mystic discoveries that we celebrate or theorize about today?

When Oppenheimer said he believed he was recreating an ancient force "This is not the first time a bomb like this has been used." and ancient Mayans describing "rain of fire," blinding light, and humans who "melted" or turned to ash, hair falling out, birds dropping mid-air, and people dying of mysterious sicknessness....

This isn't conspiracy stuff just go look at historical interveiws you can listen to yourself or go to a museum