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Not taking anything away from them, but its almost two different types of knowledge. You could compare Cat to someone who's street smart. She might get ahead and take over, but she'll stay alive and keep her head (literally). Varys and Littlefukker are more conniving and manipulative. They're smart too, and possibly smarter, but make no mistake, one mistake and their done. They're just willing to go somewhere that Ned and his ilk won't. They're opportunists.Cat smart ? Are you trolling? She is a b plus student in Florida state while Varys and Littlefinger in Harvard .
She told Robb not to marry the Frey girl?She told Robb to trust theon?She told Ned to tell cerci he knew about the incest?She told Robb to put grey wind in a cage at the red wedding?She told Robb to kill karstark?
That's what I'm saying. She had her faults, but she's nowhere near the sole reason the house has been taking L's. It has more to do with their sense of honor and trust that they're the only ones following in. In a perfect world, they'd be winning because honor, respect, loyalty and ones word would mean something.she was a c*nt, i hated how she treated jon but out of all the starks she was the smartest and if rob and ned had listened to her they might of still been alive.
On another note, I don't remember if its in this thread or the official season4 thread, but someone made an interesting point. Robb's situation would be a lot more understandable if they used the actual character ages. Also, the situation is somewhat different I the books. Y'all can do the investigative work if y'all want, but yeah.
Tl;dr. StarkSet, bastids.