NBA Weighs Retroactive Penalties For Floppers

[blackzeus]

I don't see what's so hard about calling what you see instead of assuming, making calls based on reactions. It's funny, people are constantly crying about the referees and blaming the outcome of games on bad calls, yet they don't want to hold the referees accountable. Yes, I think that an NBA ref should be able to judge a flop from a real foul in real time. Most of the time I can tell the difference between a foul and flop watching on TV and I haven't spent 1 hour training to be a ref.

Yeah, after seeing a replay in slowmo.

 

[Gravity]

Yeah, after seeing a replay in slowmo.

Maybe I'm just not as slow as you.

 

[23Barrettcity]

Fisher, LeBron, Wade, Blake, and Tony Parker is mad.

You forgot harden lol he's about to lose money andante this series with his play and then ppg next year .

I'm all for this if those guys you listed are actually penalized or whatever . No oh its Lebron so we ignore it while chalmers getting killed .
I'm skeptical but am all for a deterrent

 

[Malta]

 

[23Barrettcity]

I don't see what's so hard about calling what you see instead of assuming, making calls based on reactions. It's funny, people are constantly crying about the referees and blaming the outcome of games on bad calls, yet they don't want to hold the referees accountable. Yes, I think that an NBA ref should be able to judge a flop from a real foul in real time. Most of the time I can tell the difference between a foul and flop watching on TV and I haven't spent 1 hour training to be a ref.

A lot of time we have better angles too the refs can't see everything. Granted they miss some blatant calls sometimes they have more stuff to look at then we do .
What I find odd is how as great a defender Lebron is supposed to be he never gets fouls . I can't believe that he's that good that he rarely fouls the man he's guarding he be ending the game with one foul lots of times.
Usually great defenders get fouls at some point just not Lebron

 

[Constellations]

Maybe I'm just not as slow as you.

Im not really sure what you're arguing. Its obvious that the refs have trouble discerning flops from actual fouls. Unfortunately, the refs cant be everywhere at once and they dont have the benefit of a broadcast view of the game like we do. I dont see why you'd have a problem with the refs being able to review flops if it helps them make the right call

 

[Constellations]

A lot of time we have better angles too the refs can't see everything. Granted they miss some blatant calls sometimes they have more stuff to look at then we do .
What I find odd is how as great a defender Lebron is supposed to be he never gets fouls . I can't believe that he's that good that he rarely fouls the man he's guarding he be ending the game with one foul lots of times.
Usually great defenders get fouls at some point just not Lebron

Being able to defend without drawing a lot of fouls is a trait of a great defender...

 

[SuikodenII]

They need to start playing the wamp wamp music for these clowns on the scoreboard. Humiliation will end flopping. O and firing pu$$y refs.


NBA weighs retroactive penalties for floppers - Boston.com

David Stern is determined to stop the floppers, even if it takes until the next morning.

The NBA commissioner believes too many players are deceiving referees into calling fouls by falling down, or flopping. So he and the league’s newly reformed competition committee met Monday for a discussion about how it can be prevented.

One option, Stern said, is a “postgame analysis’’ in which a player could be penalized if it was determined he flopped. The league retroactively upgrades or downgrades flagrant fouls after review, and along those lines he said that perhaps a player could receive a message from New York saying: “Greetings from the league office. You have been assigned flopper status.’’



“No, I’m joking, but something like that,’’ Stern said. “That sort of lets people know that it’s not enough to say `it’s all part of the game.’’’

The committee is made up of coaches Doc Rivers of Boston, Rick Carlisle of Dallas and Lionel Hollins of Memphis; owners Dan Gilbert of Cleveland and Joe Lacob of Golden State, and general managers Bryan Colangelo of Toronto, Sam Presti of Oklahoma City, Mitch Kupchak of the Lakers and Kevin O’Connor of Utah.

During a 6-hour meeting, they also discussed expanding instant replay for flagrant fouls and goaltending, decided the lottery system is the best one currently available, and seemed to favor leaving the away from the ball foul rule as is, so coaches could continue to intentionally foul notoriously bad free throw shooters.

Any rules changes they recommend would have to be approved by the league’s Board of Governors, set for its next meeting in July.

Stern hopes by then to have a policy to address flopping, which bothers him because he feels it tricks the referees. He said there’s a “broad array of issues’’ to look at that can let players know the practice is to be discouraged.

“If you continue to do this, you may you have to suffer some consequences,’’ he said. “What those exactly should be and what the progression is is to be decided, because … we just want to put a stake in the ground that says this is not something that we want to be part of our game, without coming down with a sledgehammer but just doing it in a minimalist way to begin stamping it out. And I think there are ways we can do that and we’ll have to wait and see exactly what we come up with.’’

Stern has talked of allowing replay on all flagrants. Referees currently can only look at the more severe flagrant-2 penalties to determine if they indeed warranted ejection or should be downgraded to flagrant-1s. He has said he is intrigued by the international goaltending rules, which allow a defensive player to knock the ball off the rim.

He’s neutral when it comes to the away from the ball fouls, which led to Hack-a-Shaq and which the Thunder used while intentionally fouling San Antonio’s Tiago Splitter in the Western Conference finals. On one hand, he feels bad for the player who is being embarrassed by his poor free throw shooting; on the other, he understands that maybe coaches should then take the player out.

The committee appears to be leaning toward the status quo.

“It’s fair to say there was a strong sense that we shouldn’t cut down on the toolbox that coaches have available to them, despite what may seem the unseemliness of the way it goes down,’’ Stern said. “But that’s just one of the things that you do if you want to win and it works.’’

He said the committee, formerly made up of the league’s general managers, plans to reconvene in September.

Thank GOD.

 

[Data-Hawk]

Harden

Beat me to it..lol

 

[Gravity]

Im not really sure what you're arguing. Its obvious that the refs have trouble discerning flops from actual fouls. Unfortunately, the refs cant be everywhere at once and they dont have the benefit of a broadcast view of the game like we do. I dont see why you'd have a problem with the refs being able to review flops if it helps them make the right call

Yes it's obvious, I'm just not willing to give them a pass like you all seem to. I'm saying that they should call what they see, and stop assuming calls based on a players reaction. What does not having the ability to e everywhere at once have to do with that? Besides there are 3 refs calling a game, they're not asked to be everywhere at all times. The plea about them not having a good view is weak too. They're right there on the court. This isn't football, a basket ball court is 94 feet. If they aren't in good position to call the game then that's their fault. Look, I'm not saying that calling a game as a ref is easy, but these excuses for their incompetence are terrible.

As far as having the refs stop the game or slow it up to review flops, only if theyre going to do the same for bad calls. Why not just give the coaches challenges like they do in football? No, I wouldn't want the game slowed down so that the refs can review what is and isn't a flop. Dumb idea. The referees should just get better at their job, that's what I'm arguing.

 

[rapbeats]

Clippers might as well subtract 5-10 games from their win column for next year because of this.

let me just throw out 10 games right now with the clippers. billups included.

so thats cp3, billups, blake.

james harden will lose money if they do that. half of his game is based on flopping on both ends.

ginobili might as well retire already.

yep, there are going to be a lot of guys out of a job if they do this. lol. dude will actually have to attempt to score the basket. lol.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

There's already youtube but NBA needs to implement a Hall of Shame video vault so these flopping fukks can be immortalized officially by the league. I'd buy a box DVD set of NBA's greatest flops. That shyt would be straight comedy!

They would definitely need to buy the rights to Yakety Sax for the full effect

He has said he is intrigued by the international goaltending rules, which allow a defensive player to knock the ball off the rim.

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[HHR]

There is a big difference between exaggerating contact and flopping....and most people are smart enough to understand that

 

[HHR]

In the pre-season or D-League they should try and make flopping a violation....


....also, please stop letting players take charges at midcourt while players are just running down the court on offense...aka the Derek Fisher rule.

 

[superunknown23]