NBA TV viewership in the dumps so far

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Too many Europeans with no personality. Despite how some might feel, Basketball is a star driven sport. Well the so called best player in the league acts like he could give a shyt about it and would rather be playing with horses. Giannis has a good personality but his game ain’t marketable, and Luka looks sloppy and out of shape. It’s also time to move on from Lebron.
 
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IIVI said:
Get a power forward like Mobley or Chet?
  • "Can he get to be a reliable three point shooter?"
Get a point guard like Cade?
  • "They need to surround him with three point shooters."
Get a center like Edey?
  • "They need to surround him with three point shooters."
Get a generational player like Wemby?
  • "Can he get to be a reliable three point shooter so that we can additionally surround him with three point shooters?"
Nuggets losing?
  • "They don't have any three point shooters."
Every single draft prospect analysis?
  • "Are they a three point shooter?"
What do you mainly see the most when you tune in?
  • Players shooting three pointers.

That's literally the game, in most facets: a three point shooting contest.
That's how you play winning, championship basketball.
That's literally the "problem": basketball is so optimized right now that you know what the game will come down to.

Boston Celtics Average Total Field Goal attempts in 2011: 75
Boston Celtics Average Three Point Fields Goal attempts in 2024: 50

When stars play? They basically do like what most other players do: Crossover -> Stepback -> Three Pointer/Pass to three point shooter.
Most stars wouldn't be a winning player if they didn't have a strong three point shot: which means they're going to launch them.

Basketball has basically been solved and you're only going to be an unserious team if you can't shoot three pointers at a high clip and make a high percentage of them. You basically have slim chances of beating an exceptional three point shooting team if you're not a good three point shooting team, so you got to become a good three point shooting team.

It even makes the game look exponentially easier and like no defense being played (although a lot of high-effort defense is being played) because there's simply so much spacing. A player gets a pass when they cut and the paint is wide open because the paint defender is guarding a center waiting for catch and shoot at the three point line. I'll even say some of the defense is the most aggressive as it's been, but it's completely countered by the spacing on the court now due to three point shooting.

Now picture all this and the refs still calling some of the most ridiculous fouls on a defender.
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Blame the cac executives

They were looking to equalize the game for white euro prospects. Not realizing Black Americans and Black international players would just shoot more 3s too.

The media was bullying us for years that euro basketball was the more beautiful product. Now that it has been copied fully by the NBA, the product is allegedly dead
 
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IIVI said:
Get a power forward like Mobley or Chet?
  • "Can he get to be a reliable three point shooter?"
Get a point guard like Cade?
  • "They need to surround him with three point shooters."
Get a center like Edey?
  • "They need to surround him with three point shooters."
Get a generational player like Wemby?
  • "Can he get to be a reliable three point shooter so that we can additionally surround him with three point shooters?"
Nuggets losing?
  • "They don't have any three point shooters."
Every single draft prospect analysis?
  • "Are they a three point shooter?"
What do you mainly see the most when you tune in?
  • Players shooting three pointers.

That's literally the game, in most facets: a three point shooting contest.
That's how you play winning, championship basketball.
That's literally the "problem": basketball is so optimized right now that you know what the game will come down to.

Boston Celtics Average Total Field Goal attempts in 2011: 75
Boston Celtics Average Three Point Fields Goal attempts in 2024: 50

When stars play? They basically do like what most other players do: Crossover -> Stepback -> Three Pointer/Pass to three point shooter.
Most stars wouldn't be a winning player if they didn't have a strong three point shot: which means they're going to launch them.

Basketball has basically been solved and you're only going to be an unserious team if you can't shoot three pointers at a high clip and make a high percentage of them. You basically have slim chances of beating an exceptional three point shooting team if you're not a good three point shooting team, so you got to become a good three point shooting team.

It even makes the game look exponentially easier and like no defense being played (although a lot of high-effort defense is being played) because there's simply so much spacing. A player gets a pass when they cut and the paint is wide open because the paint defender is guarding a center waiting for catch and shoot at the three point line. I'll even say some of the defense is the most aggressive as it's been, but it's completely countered by the spacing on the court now due to three point shooting.

Now picture all this and the refs still calling some of the most ridiculous fouls on a defender.
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Great post but let me add to your defensive issue, there are no longer anymore defensive specialist and rim protectors because everyone needs to be good shooter. It’s never been easier to score at the rim
 
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FukkaPaidEmail said:
The style of play is an issue . shyt is boring . Everyone plays the same

The NBA decided to market themselves as players over teams …which is cool when you have Magic, Micheal and Bron…but what happens when a good chunk of the league are international ? ..we see what’s happening now


There are a good chunk of fanbases that cannot watch their teams unless they either get a premium cable subscription or pay 20+ a month for a streaming app..that’s laughable. Could you imagine the NFL letting their regional matchups being handled by a near bankrupt company? Hell naw. The NBA is a joke for that . The MLB had the same issue ..difference Baseball is probably the GOAT stadium game experience and there are many of their fans who listen to radio broadcasts anyway.


So now we have a situation where the stars aren’t really there and local fanbases can’t engage with the local team outside of a subscription.

They need to figure it out because it’s a joke at the moment
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And that to me, along with the reffing, is a much bigger issue than Anthony Edwards not mimicking the shot selection of 96 Michael Jordan
 
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Of course its in the dumps, no available eyeballs right now. Its just hardcore NBA/basketball heads watching right now

NFL
MLB
College Football
NHL
Election coverage
Streaming Links
MLS Playoffs
Etc.
 
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Left.A1 said:
If they are still able to command that kind of money... What does that tell you about how much "interest from the states" as you describing it....matters at all:heh: Coli business executives back at it again
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Are you agreeing me in a coli babble type of way? :dahell:
 
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Too many - what feels like - meaningless games early on. The league doesn't really get interesting until playoff season.

Also the NBA has a lot of digital and global viewership that won't be captured in regular TV viewership data.
 
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We see what Ohtani is doing for baseball, star power does carry weight: especially star power that does generational feats.

In terms of a true superstar carry, Wemby was supposed to be the next LeBron in terms of generational impact, but outside of his early rookie year (and the way they ended nearly in last place), the hype simply isn't there compared to the year before he got drafted.

I think maybe if he ever gets close to contending they may be able to get a re-spark.

Like I mentioned in the previous post though: three point shooting dominates the game of basketball. Problem with Wemby is he isn't a great three point shooter. Actually, he's pretty well below average.

The big issue is, following up LeBron is going to be insanely difficult. There's no clear hand-off either like there was Jordan > Kobe/LeBron. It could have been Curry, but LeBron and him are basically retiring at the same time.
 
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