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Is anyone surprised ? Three point contest was limited to all star weekend. The game is a three point shooting contest now
NBA TV viewership in the dumps so far
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Unironically, if the NBA didn't try to sell itself to a more global audience, it would've inevitably died.nikkas are stupid just like we've been saying on this website for decades
most older posters called the change over ... its not injuries or overall scope of talent in the league, but that's what we complained about
the one dude in here is dumb for asking how they got deals for billions etc ... when the market of the entire globe is international now
of course when fukking Sri Lanka and New Zealand can subscribe and jump on an app to watch its gonna extend viewership and numbers... that has nothing to do with the overall quality of the game itself as a North American sport. You end up with 100s of millions of casual fans with casual commitments to casual style gameplay. They literally pander to international outreach for decades right in front of you... they create a cup game that mimmicks soccer etc... its all amazing in concept but their end goal is to sell out your structure and market it mostly on a global scale that doesnt involve you anymore. If "NBA China" in 20 years makes more money for them with higher viewership, you will be watching asian players on most headlines and on TV in the futureits no different than baseball except Nba is selling out in all directions at a more desperate rate
NBA is basically a 22 year old, big booty stripper who is giving everyone a shot. She sets boundaries, but each dude who comes to visit gets away with extra shyt. Eventually she either gets pimped hard by one dude... or she ends up washed and runs back to the thing that made her pop to begin with. In sports case, she will continue to be in the streets because everyone likes to play her. You lost that girl awhile back. Now you just gotta bring your 1s and appreciate what's left of her but keep your visits to a minimum
Furthermore, the NBA has always been a sport for casuals. It's the same sport whose modern era is tied to a single player, whom despite has been retired for over 20+ years, still has fans still trying to force him into the discussion. A sport that centers itself on one player to give it fame will undoubtedly need to keep reinventing itself to stay relevant, or sell itself to the highest bidder.
The NBA doesn't have the safety net of falling back on patriotism like the NFL does. The NFL could have objectively the worst product imaginable, and it still wouldn't lose it's fanbase if it was still American.
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I disagree but wouldnt say you dont make a point
NBA "only dies" if you are only worried about growth ... making billions for simply renting arenas and hiring dudes to play pick up basketball is obviously extremely profitable, so much so that the only reason I am interacting with you in this lifetime is because of the sport that we benefit nothing from.
NBA has always been a sport for casuals I agree with, 99% of everything is built on success through casuals. 90% of music listeners dont play music but are fans of musicians
the problem is you dont let casuals dictate the direction of it. To your same point, if things are predicated success wise by "viewership and money" casuals will remain lingering regardless. I think this is our main complaint in every aspect of entertainment. You dont need to water your product down to pander to "casuals" because they are always there. There's plenty of times in all values of life, where reality beats out casual commercialization. Usually when we call someone great, they are (at first) pioneers of not catering to casual ideology. Ali wasnt considered a good boxer simply because of his record, Bruce Lee wasnt considered a fighting legend simply based off in ring tales. Curry isnt known as the best overall basketball player of all time. Kareem wasnt just a perennial winner on all levels to be considered casually great, they all took the artform they were in and broke through to smash through the ceiling of itYour last statement goes directly with the first. I agree 100% with it, but it only matters if you care about selling out to casual audience. Something that makes huge money isnt going to simply die because it doesnt grow. All the mom and pops stores around you exist out of novelty they dont need to be huge nation wide chains under every aspect to be realized. There's a reason regardless why NBA became international in the first place. What the NBA is smart for to argue against myself is.... the fact that they are cornering their own market so international basketball falls under their profit and umbrella. Why let China or Turkey just create their own league without sponsoring and wanting a cut in return for marketing and distribution... they would be leaving 100s of billions on the plate. Its a terrible balance and tempting devil to not pass up the money and control.
caught it for 55 on youtube tv a few weeks ago. Saw that price and copped.
Dang. They basically trying to give it away......It's fukked up I still wouldn't do it at $55.
Ain't no one convincing me that WB isn't cheesing by the deal they got with rights to highlights and the ESPN partnership AND all of them other networks aren't having some sort of buyers' remorse right now. I think they found out they were bidding against imaginary numbers especially since there ain't no Bron or Steph replacements coming.
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Dang. They basically trying to give it away......It's fukked up I still wouldn't do it at $55.
Ain't no one convincing me that WB isn't cheesing by the deal they got with rights to highlights and the ESPN partnership AND all of them other networks aren't having some sort of buyers' remorse right now. I think they found out they were bidding against imaginary numbers especially since there ain't no Bron or Steph replacements coming.
It's a double edged sword. WBD is also cost cutting so it makes sense for them not to make an 11-year commitment like this but at the same time they are going to lose money in the short term on ad revenue for TNT.
WBD might end up looking "smart" 5 years from now but it's something that I feel ESPN and to a lesser extent NBC felt they needed to do right now.
Amazon doesn't care either way. They are expanding their footprint.
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Ain't no one convincing me that WB isn't cheesing by the deal they got with rights to highlights and the ESPN partnership AND all of them other networks aren't having some sort of buyers' remorse right now. I think they found out they were bidding against imaginary numbers especially since there ain't no Bron or Steph replacements coming.
sports programming bubble has to bust eventually
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Except the mom and pop stores have been swallowed up by those nation wide chains. They're dead because novelty isn't a thing anymore.
More to the point though, the NBA stopped being a mom and pop store the moment it sold itself for MJ to put it on the global stage. What was it going to go back to from there, except go further into the abyss of monetary gain? It sold itself to being bigger than America, so it had to comitt to that, otherwise, it would've tried to come home, knocking on the door, and nobody would've answered.
Look at all the different forms of media/entertainment now, where if you don't expand/grow, you will get pushed into the background. Look at how the film/TV industry and sports have quickly been ushered off the stage for things like social media platforms/streaming and video games. It's much different to what it was 40, 30, shyt, even 20 years ago, where there was minimal competition for eyes and ears. The only way you don't is if you're embedded in a societal or cultural agora, which allows you to be an extension of that, which the NBA doesn't have the benefit of being a part of.
Just take a look at this -
"The dominant entertainment industry is gaming, as in video games. And it is not even close. The video game industry is $200-plus billion globally—larger than all of film, television and music combined."
And you don't think the NBA wouldn't have eventually become a dead man walking if it didn't grow?
I've always thought the move for TNT was the "middle class" brands like the Big 12 football, college basketball, soccer, and Nascar in 2025/2026 and maybe the "new" Pac 10 and Mountain West in college football too. It's genuinely why I think WB had the hard limit he had with spending on the NBA go. It's a bunch of entities with very strong fandoms regardless if they're in a playoff race or something vs a league who fans only really care in the playoffs and about the "premier" teams and the players don't seem like they care either.
The WB strategy wouldn't have the same peak engagement as having the NBA, but it'll definitely be more consistent.
I can mainly watch my local team and some marquee matchups. The NBA lost the plot when they made the game less aesthetically pleasing. Plus, we've lost a lot of player that had flair. There's only a handful of players that the average viewer can say they want to turn the channel to watch them play. I think it's just a bad product when you have a bunch of teams spamming three pointers. Unsure what changes they can make, but something needs to change .
Also, it doesn't help when you have the media telling viewers not to care about the product until all star break. I think the NBA trained it's audience with that. Plus, Silver seems scared to broadcast national televised games during the NFL and NCAAF season.
Also, it doesn't help when you have the media telling viewers not to care about the product until all star break. I think the NBA trained it's audience with that. Plus, Silver seems scared to broadcast national televised games during the NFL and NCAAF season.